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				Free Paysite Tip - CHEAT THE CHEATERS!
			 
			Hey guys... new year... new month... new tip: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Get some traffic from unusual sources: http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/freepaysitetips.html Also, until the 11th I'm giving away the Member Site Genie Plus for the Standard price. Check it out, it's only 50 bucks and it's a tool that will save you 1000 times that in costly errors. Knowledge is power! If you don't know that yet, then you might wanna take up a career in burger engineering. http://www.guaranteeddesigns.com/membersitegenie.html 
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		 Is that members genie the same super spreadsheet that either you or someone else shared with a few people a couple years back? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			If so has anything changed to warrant an update? 
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 It's been updated quite a few times and now includes a way to crunch numbers for PPS, Revshare, PPC and flat ad rates all in one sheet. You can show any mixture of those payout programs to reflect having multiples in one affiliate program. I also added features for counting upsell efficiency, exits and product sales (great for amateur sites where they sell articles of clothing from the girls and such). I added an adjustable function for growth rate and made it so you can use it for a startup or an existing program/site. I added a shit ton of factors for various cost points. I factored in returns from chargeback witholding. The list goes on... Pretty much every little aspect of running paysites is covered. I also included commentary on each of the major sections explaining it and giving industry averages based on our data (retention avg, trial conversion, etc...). Not to go all sales pitch on ya - but if it's not the best 50 bucks you spent since getting a $50 blow job, I'd be surprised. 
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		 who spends $50 on a blowjob? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Sure thing. Hit me up on ICQ if you don't have my email addy. 
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		 Wait am I charging too much or too little to give he.... ummm... shit... Inside voice, Mark, inside voice! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Yeah I just had the DB setup by my host and have a friend putting it together.  I just haven't had time so thankfully he's helping me out.  It'll be up whenever he logs in again.. so I'd say later this week. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 If he doesn't pop online in the next day or two I'll take ya up on it.  Thanks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Whoa, this sounds good. With all the years you been doing this mark, you are an encyclopedia of knowledge, your only flaw being your moral compass which is stuck to magnetic honesty, even if it means putting yourself in the line of fire for what is right. You are and always will be a man of honesty, integrity, and someone who knows their stuff. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Ok Mark confirmed the one I have is a slightly older version. This spreadsheet is a must have for program owners, even if you only have one site. It does what it promises and then some. If you like to run numbers, know your projections and how to meet them and more. You need this spreadsheet, and at the price it is offered it is way more than worth it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 mark im donw to help out the cause sign me up for the genie.  any tool i can get my hands on is worth its weight.  i won't be around tomorrow, but i will be around thurs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 No Vegas for me this January.  I'll be at Phoenix for sure though. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Very cool stuff.  Bookmarked! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Wow nice tips indeed. Never heard of Spankwire. Downloading tons of vids from there right now! Thanks! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Well 50 bucks seems very reasonable for something that could be potentially more valuable.  I'll bite.  Plus your site is already a goldmine of info for me.  If your ok with the Duke that's enough for me! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Cool. =]  Hope ya like it.  I really can't see anyone running paysites without something like this.  It can save you so many headaches and help make decisions much more intelligently.  You can even run multiple copies just to compare individual ad campaigns so you see what the long term ROI is on them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 LOL.  Hey man it's one of the biggies... kudos on the success.  It's a good traffic source for people too if they follow my tip. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Ahhh I'm gonna *bump* myself one last time tonight.  Cuz I'm a whore. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Great read man.... thanks once again  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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