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Old 12-30-2006, 12:19 AM   #51
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Whenever there is money being spent without you having to actually spend it yourself, it's a really good idea to keep track of what's happening - constantly. There's no excuse in trying to frame google for his fuckup.
I agree with you there, however... At the same time, I hired someone to manage my campaigns and made my budget higher. So here I thought my bill was higher because of someone optimizing my campaigns - instead it was my money being spent on their content network. It was CRAP traffic - at least in my case.

I know it's not an excuse, but I'm not going to take 100% blame. My bitch is about $400. Not $15k. (Yikes). I'm extremely anal when it comes to my money.


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Old 12-30-2006, 12:36 AM   #52
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my adwords campaigns haven't changed...


the 1 think i'd heavily question is this...the adwords content network are results shown on people who put adsense on their sites. now you are not allowed to put adsense on adult sites....so then it seems your keywords if truly being shown on the content network are being shown on non-adult sites...
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:44 AM   #53
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my adwords campaigns haven't changed...


the 1 think i'd heavily question is this...the adwords content network are results shown on people who put adsense on their sites. now you are not allowed to put adsense on adult sites....so then it seems your keywords if truly being shown on the content network are being shown on non-adult sites...
wrong.

adult adwords content ads are shown on parked pages and on all kinds of shit sites.
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:57 AM   #54
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The content network is YEARS old... the only thing Google changed is giving you the option not to advertise on it, no?

Content Network was added some months ago as a seperate option, before it was just all in one, was it not? The optimization for it has just changed as well or so it seems to me. So that is why there is not problem for them to just automatically enable content network for all old campaigns, it was activated before anyway...

The thing that concerns me way way more here is the few people that said they had a limit of for example $100 and google let it go higher than that. THAT is fucked up.

If you have a limit of $X and then complain google spent it all, you need to rethink your way of making money ;)
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:56 AM   #55
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damn they had that shit turned on on mine too, this could explain a lot... fuckers
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:56 AM   #56
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Old 12-30-2006, 05:54 AM   #57
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The only change I made to adjust the sudden flood of content network traffic, was to lower the amount I pay for each click. I'll still take all of it that they can send, but instead of paying 0.50c or higher for it, I'm only paying 0.05c for it at most.
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:05 AM   #58
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Old 12-30-2006, 06:07 AM   #59
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You cocksucking whiners, don't supervise your own campaigns and then blame the PPC engine for presenting you with a fat bill.
dumbest post ever hah
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:48 AM   #60
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There is no money to be made in adwords, none.
I hope everyone believes this. I will definately more more money if there are less advertisers.

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Old 12-30-2006, 12:48 PM   #61
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I think the same. When you think that everything's ok, then comes something bad...
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:47 PM   #62
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They did the same thing to me. (on a non-adult site) i lost $5K with those fuckers... i was only using 2 keywords.

GODDAMN I HATE GOOGLE FOR ANYTHING!!!!
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:10 PM   #63
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:44 AM   #64
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Due to how Google's system automatically "optimizes" ad rotations it is possible to be getting traffic then totally have it drop off. Or vice versa, getting no traffic and then have it spike. I have a couple of clients who pay me to manage google traffic it is a total pain in the ass to try to explain this. Makes me look like an ass.
Indeed... I was monitoring one campaign but did not really bother with a few very small ones that were active since 1.5-2 years... you don't think small steady campaigns will spike from 300 hits per month @ $0.15 to 3500 hits @ $0.97 overnight... especially not when there was no change made to TOS/Campaigns setup from that date.

It's like a bad surprise party.
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:53 AM   #65
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I agree, their content network is pure garbage... I guess it's because of all those adsense "experts"/spammers/abusers out there... I always switch off the option to receive traffic from their content network... Have no idea how yours got switched on, but good luck on getting your money back!
Thats a smart choice anyways its always a great idea to monitor your expenses online.
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:00 AM   #66
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let's see, your average CPC is $0.74 per click... for mainstream adult traffic!?!? what's the max CPC you've set, $5? $10? i've got a bridge to sell you
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:42 AM   #67
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:06 AM   #68
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This story really sucks. I'll watch my campaign more closely!
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:08 AM   #69
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I would say your the only one at fault.
I dont know how you could miss that even if you have "lots" of campains, do you not check ANY of them? I know if I saw that in one I would check the others.
But then if you would even scan pages befor clicking ok you would notice more things too.

I hope lots of you do stop using google Actually I encourage you to "stick it to them" by not using them. As soon as they dont see that 500 bucks a year I am sure accounting will flip out and they will do everything they can to get you back.


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dont be surprised if they come after you. 15K is worth fighting for. you agreed to their terms. the mistake is yours. if you want to make an argument about the traffic, quality, account history etc... you might find yourself having to make that argument in court as a defendant if you don't be careful.
Same thing I was going to say.

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not really .. i would be careful if i were google .. a class action lawsuit is waiting for them in the corner
Google is one of those companies that would spend more then what the suit is for just to win to prove their case.
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:40 AM   #71
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What's wrong with Google's content network? I get an average of 6 page views from visitors from the content network. I also don't pay more than .10 per click so I don't worry too much about it.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:36 AM   #72
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I am still learning about about this. I have read and hear hundreds of stories like this about Google.
It just seems that they are trying to do too many things, and all of them are about 75%.
I am sorry that has happened to you, but everytime a company gets too big for their britches, they are a prime target to loose consumers respect, and market share. And most companies fall from grace because of it, and never recover.

It seems Google is making themselves a prime target for corporate espionage, and catastrphic disaster.
Just based on companies that have gone before them, and got kicked in the ass when they wern't looking.

I wouldn't be suprised to read an article in 3 years titled "The rise and fall of Google".

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Old 01-01-2007, 08:04 PM   #73
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rule of thumb with google.......always watch it, monitor it daily...if not 1x ....2x a day...seriously.....it's the only way to go with that traffic unfortunately
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Thank you for your email, and I apologize for your frustration with the
content network. In certain cases, we can issue users who are unhappy with
the relevance on the content network a one-time courtesy credit in the
amount of 10% of their monthly spend across all campaigns.

If you'd like to accept this credit, reply to this message with your
confirmation. After we process your credit, you'll see it reflected on
your Billing Summary.

I also want to inform you that, per Google policy, if you protest these
charges with your bank and initiate any chargebacks, your AdWords account
will be suspended indefinitely. Therefore, if you would like to continue
advertising on Google, I urge you not to issue any chargebacks. If you
need any further clarification on this point, please let me know.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:29 PM   #75
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Lisa M. from Google called me today and she said she will try to get me some type of credit. I will NOT accept a 10% credit.

I would rather chargeback and never use Adwords again. Fuckers.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:50 PM   #76
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hey btw are the parked domains a part of Googles search partners or content network?
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:54 PM   #77
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I noticed that sometimes there's absolutely no relevancy between your keywords (even if you use [exact match] to ensure the most targetted traffic) and the parked domain, where your ads are shown...
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:45 PM   #78
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Well I made $3,000 in adsense a few months back and they cancelled my account saying I was faking clicks. Never paid me. Fucking asscockmongers

Sad thing is it was all legit, lol. o_O
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:54 AM   #79
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I thought google was out of adult

There are some obvious terms and phrases with NO adwords links anymore. Once they started "landing page" analysis last year I had to leave them.

Am waiting for the next "hot" search engine to take the public by storm.
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That's way is better to use yahoo or msn for advertising.Google adwords is shit.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:22 PM   #81
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More google misery I see -
Dont forget to contribute to www.fuckedgoogle.com - a place which is growing in popularity.

Its worth posting your troubles there and letting people know how you feel about google.

Personally I gave up on them years ago. I have no trust in them - non whatsoever.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:29 PM   #82
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Google's always finding ways to scam people. You need to constantly be ontop of your shit with Google or else they'll find a way to take advantage.

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