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Old 07-20-2002, 06:05 PM   #1
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OK, I will sum it up in a few short sentences and then post the ICQ history from the past week on here. Basically, this guy Tanel, with the email [email protected] came to us and got a dedicated server with 1 Mbps. Then in 1 week, his traffic goes to 80 Mbps and kills the server. We put up another one for him for free, and it balances things out. He had been with us 2 weeks and I asked him to pay for overages at the end of the month. He says he can not afford the overages because his business model for his freehost was not working, so I let him settle his overages for $1,000. He gave us a CC card number to make payment and it got declined. He said it was an international card and works, but would wire instead. He said he was making changes to his freehosting and he would be able to make money now.

So needless to say, this guy gives me a B.S. story about having wired money, comes up with every excuse, and then I had to shut him off. He copied his files and then move to another host the day we shut him off. The other host is run by a friend of mine and he will be shutting them down on Monday. He is not around today to do it.

Well, all I can say is you are a webmaster, dont use thexxxhosting.com, they will not be around long. If you are an ISP, watch out you will be burned. If you are a TGP, I would not promote galleries on this host, the galleries will only be on for as long as it takes his next hosting company to figure out he is a dead beat!

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Old 07-20-2002, 06:07 PM   #2
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:13 PM   #3
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:17 PM   #4
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[08:54] Tann - Potential Reseller: were you able to bill our CC?
[09:47] cologroup: 4797xxxxxxxx6890 x 07/03 Visa -> Declined
[09:48] Tann - Potential Reseller: hmm... strange, i got $1014.56 dollars on the account are you sure your processor accepts credit cards with owner located in Estonia?
[09:50] cologroup: no, I tried smaller amounts as well and it did not work
[09:51] cologroup: Can you wire the payment?
[09:55] Tann - Potential Reseller: ok i'll wire it out then, but it'll take some days to get there
got your bank info already.

Wed Jul 10 11:40:26 2002
[11:40] cologroup: Did you wire the payment?
[17:53] Tann - Potential Reseller: yep
[17:54] cologroup: ok, thanks. I think I saw it today on our web statement.
[17:55] Tann - Potential Reseller: ok, that was fast then, usually takes longer

Thu Jul 11 09:08:58 2002
[09:09] cologroup: I looked, the wire did not show up yet. Probably will come through today if you sent on Monday
Session Close (Tann - Potential Reseller): Thu Jul 11 09:09:20 2002

Thu Jul 11 09:13:41 2002
[09:13] Tann - Potential Reseller: yep, i'm 10 hours ahead in time here though, i think banks were closed on monday already when i wired from netbank, but usually it 3-5 days to arrive, deducted weekend and holidays when banks closed, probably should arrive today.
[09:13] cologroup: ok

Sun Jul 14 11:48:03 2002
[11:48] cologroup: That payment still has not come through.

Mon Jul 15 15:28:54 2002
[15:28] Tann - Potential Reseller: hey, has the payment arrived yet, i also got a new invoice for $625, i wired $1000, is the $625 extra or... ?
I have an online account with Bank of America myself, aren't the online statements delayed 24 hours and not even updated on weekends?
[17:05] *** Tann - Potential Reseller signed off at Mon Jul 15 17:05:13 2002.
[19:18] cologroup: yes, they are delayed, but I do not see the $1000. You should have a bill due for July, but I did not bill you yet. It is only $375 for a server and 1 Mbps @ $100/Mbps
[19:18] cologroup: Do you have a PayPal account?
[20:22] Tann - Potential Reseller: Hi, has the payment arrived yet, i'm getting worried already, don't have a paypal account, sry.
[21:54] cologroup: no, I dont see it yet. What was the exact amount you sent?
[21:54] Tann - Potential Reseller: i wired exactly $1000
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:17 PM   #5
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<-Listor Wire Payments from BOFA to Cologroup

[21:58] cologroup: those are all the wire transfer for the month. I do not see any $1,000 payment, do you?
[22:01] Tann - Potential Reseller: hmm... it's 8AM banks just opened, i'll call my bank.
[22:01] Tann - Potential Reseller: brb in 5 mins
[22:04] cologroup: ok
[23:07] cologroup: thats a long 5 min
[05:56] Tann - Potential Reseller: heh, i fell asleep
was up like 40 hours before that setting up some gambling sites.
ouch, head really hurts from sleeping on my desk
[06:27] Tann - Potential Reseller: the bank said, the wire was sent out tuesday after 12AM, so it should have arrived on your account either on friday or monday, so if the online statement is delayed on day you should see it on tuesday, in a some cases though from back when i was running sponsor programs, i had webmasters in US receive the payment on tuesday, the bank said also it should be 3-5 days (deducted weekend and holidays).
[06:39] cologroup: do you want to send teh July Payment now as well and see when that arrives?
[06:42] Tann - Potential Reseller: hmmm.. ok, is this the correct bank info?

<-Bank Info->

[07:00] cologroup: yes
[07:00] Tann - Potential Reseller: ok

Thu Jul 18 02:26:08 2002
[02:26] cologroup: So what did you find out? I still do not have a payment and we are half way through the month. Maybe we should do a money gram.
[08:28] cologroup: We need to work out another way to make payment. I have no confirmation number, no money, and we need to get this worked out. I need a moneygram, Western Union, or a fax of the wire transfer reciept, otherwise this is not going to work anymore.
[08:31] cologroup: If I can not get solid proof that a wire has been sent or another form of payment sent over, like I listed above, today is going to be our last day working together.

Sorry it has to be like this, but I have a business to run and many other customers that will pay me on time.
[10:19] Tann - Potential Reseller: i'm 100% confident the wire will be on your account today, there can't be any furher delays, just a normal wire transfer, doing 5-10 of these every week.

Thu Jul 18 14:26:07 2002.
[14:26] cologroup: ok, then send me a copy of the reciept for the transfer
[14:28] Tann - Potential Reseller: ok
[14:29] cologroup: I just want to know that you sent it. Also, how about the July payment?
[14:29] Tann - Potential Reseller: is Western Union ok?
[14:30] cologroup: yes
[11:26] cologroup: I did not receive anything from you. No payment, no proof of payment.

Fri Jul 19 19:06:27 2002
[19:06] cologroup: hello
[19:07] cologroup: let me know if you want to discuss getting you back online.
[20:07] cologroup: ok, so I am assuming that you did not plan to pay your bill and we can format the drive tonight. We'll do that in about 6 hours, so if you want the data, you'll need to let me know by then
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:19 PM   #6
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:20 PM   #7
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:21 PM   #8
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Maybe the guy ran flat out of money. His service should be cutoff.
I mean some people do go bankrupt, remember reading about spacedog.
Maybe this guy isn't an ass, just someone who ran out of money.
Or do you suspect he has money but isn't willing to pay it?
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Old 07-20-2002, 06:24 PM   #9
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Jayson, thanks for the heads up...We will be on the lookout if the scum bag comes looking our way....

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Old 07-20-2002, 06:26 PM   #10
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Estonia.. go figure..

It would have been worth posting if he DID pay..

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Old 07-20-2002, 07:05 PM   #11
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Old 07-20-2002, 07:50 PM   #12
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I think posting all that info about him is unprofessional and petty.

He can sue you now for breaching your P.P. (is you even have one).
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Old 07-20-2002, 07:57 PM   #13
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Old 07-20-2002, 08:19 PM   #14
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I was spammed to use his hosting. Didn't know he was using a server from your company. I recieved a similar spam email for blinghosting.com or bombhosting.com, can't remember which, but it was identical. He's probably trying to do the same thing with several domains.
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Old 07-20-2002, 08:39 PM   #16
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Here is his ICQ -> 59354159

And Bash, this was not unprofessional. I just got fucked and he will do the same to you. I let him stay up for over 20 days without paying and using 50 Mbps.

I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, because a lot of webmasters where using his free host and I did not want to just shut it down.

This guy is on a rampage and you could have been his next victim. I assume you will not be doing business with him, which means this post served its purpose.

In 4 years, I have never posted about some one not paying there bill, because that would not be professional. But when I am lied to and I feel I have been scammed, I think I should give people a fair warning.
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Old 07-21-2002, 12:47 AM   #17
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it's completely fair you let us know.

also pretty nice business that you'd eat the 50mbit overage and settle on a lower bill to help the guy out when you [assumed] he had a bad month and overshot his load a little. however, a couple months and shitty excuses and all that.. lame. just taking advantage of your good graces.

now for the rest of us legit people who might overshoot our limits.. you might not be so quick to help us out (unless we have a long standing relationship)

oh well.. always takes the one person to ruin it!
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cologroup is in the right, jason provides a superior service and gets taken advantage of, fuck that... and fuck the shithead who fucked him over....
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Old 07-21-2002, 06:57 PM   #19
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Old 07-22-2002, 12:02 AM   #20
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where are your sites?

http://www.pimpcafe.com
http://www.thexxxhosting.com

I think, you need to get out of this business. It would be in your best interests. You can't fuck people over in this industry and then run and hide.
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Old 07-22-2002, 02:14 AM   #21
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Old 07-22-2002, 02:27 AM   #22
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Jason I was down 3 weeks with cologroup - the reason i didn't pay your, i didn't have access to my server for a week, so i just doesn't get to me when you're triumphing over having my sites suspended for 24 hours ;)
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Old 07-22-2002, 07:06 AM   #23
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You lied, you did not pay, and you deserve to be shut down like you are right now. Goodbye! No one will host with you. Pay your bills.
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