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Old 07-20-2002, 07:00 AM   #1
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Spammer takes it in the shorts

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-945148.html
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Old 07-20-2002, 08:10 AM   #2
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Good. Maybe this will scare our spamming friends at GFY who think spamming is a legitimate way to make money. You know those handful of guys we have here that admit to spamming.
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Old 07-20-2002, 08:53 AM   #3
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Good. Maybe this will scare our spamming friends at GFY who think spamming is a legitimate way to make money. You know those handful of guys we have here that admit to spamming.
As you can judge by the article, the monetary punishment can be very HEAVY. AOL is very aggressive in shutting down spammers and has caused the shutdown of over a dozen large spam outfits. The problem is that spammers are getting more and more sophisticated--most are based offshore and use fake proxies.
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Old 07-20-2002, 10:20 AM   #4
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they need to go after the sponsors. most spammers run the site, and just hide behind the affiliate code. i wish someone would spam my free cds i sure as hell wouldnt pay them
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Old 07-20-2002, 10:28 AM   #5
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they need to go after the sponsors. most spammers run the site, and just hide behind the affiliate code. i wish someone would spam my free cds i sure as hell wouldnt pay them
Nice program, I just opened up a site so going to try to promote it
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Old 07-20-2002, 10:39 AM   #6
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they need to go after the sponsors. most spammers run the site, and just hide behind the affiliate code. i wish someone would spam my free cds i sure as hell wouldnt pay them
Hi brian nice to see you here =)

looks like a good program also.
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Old 07-20-2002, 10:51 AM   #7
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Much spam lately...

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Old 07-20-2002, 11:51 AM   #8
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all the guy should have said is he was spamming his friends tht he thought would be interested in the program i.e. triplexspam.... THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU!
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Old 07-20-2002, 12:26 PM   #9
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AOL is against spam?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

When they find out *someone* has been sending around unsolicited CD-ROMs (and before that, floppies) by snail mail to almost everyone in the western world in their name, they are gonna be pissed!
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Old 07-20-2002, 12:50 PM   #10
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lol Unlike snail mail, AOL bears the cost of mailing the material to you. Unlike snail mail, you can easily chuck in the trash junk mail.

Compare that situation with having flooded mail servers, raped email relay systems, and pissed off email recipients that have to manually delete emails that bulk spam guards missed.



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AOL is against spam?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

When they find out *someone* has been sending around unsolicited CD-ROMs (and before that, floppies) by snail mail to almost everyone in the western world in their name, they are gonna be pissed!
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Old 07-20-2002, 03:53 PM   #11
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It really would be nice if companies like AOL or Earthlink communicated with sponsors in ways other than lawsuits though.

If we ever get a spam complaint from AOL or Earthlink it's always from the surfer....not AOL who actually has a "Notify AOL" button on their email client. That's where bulk of the complaints would go instead of to us leaving us in the dark because AOL is too stupid to forward that complaint to the sponsor.

Then 4 years later they sue you for it. (Think CEN)
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Old 07-20-2002, 04:12 PM   #12
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actually Earthlink won because "Khan" didn't show up to court....
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Old 07-20-2002, 04:14 PM   #13
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and isnt that usually a sign of guilt?
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Old 07-20-2002, 04:23 PM   #14
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Cases where defendants don't show and a default judgement is entered rarely become precedents so I wouldn't get too excited about it. I hate telemarketers even more because they waste my time. Should I start suing people for calling me? I didn't solicit their call, they are tying up my phone, and wasting my time. Hmmmm, maybe I have a case.
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Old 07-20-2002, 05:46 PM   #15
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and isnt that usually a sign of guilt?
Its called a "default judgment"--even if he showed up, he'd still have to spend THOUSANDS on attorneys. Try going up against AOL's lawyers--some of the largest law firms in the country.
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Old 07-20-2002, 05:48 PM   #16
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Cases where defendants don't show and a default judgement is entered rarely become precedents so I wouldn't get too excited about it. I hate telemarketers even more because they waste my time. Should I start suing people for calling me? I didn't solicit their call, they are tying up my phone, and wasting my time. Hmmmm, maybe I have a case.
You're right. Cases only become precedents if they are appealed to an appelate court AND the appellate court wants the opinion published. Federal opinions though are precedential from the district level upwards.

The reason I posted the link is that companies are beginning to really crack down on spam. Also...spam in California and private attorneys will go after spammers both for enforcement AND attorneys fees.
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Old 07-20-2002, 05:50 PM   #17
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Depending on how harrassing they are, there maybe an FCC regulation they violated. Visit the fcc site and see if you can file a complaint. Punishment is probably a fine. If there is fraud, probably time in federal prison too.

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Old 08-09-2002, 04:55 AM   #18
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