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rook · 12-12-2006, 02:13 AM

what is yours favorite, most stable, and most certain
with your opinion billing system ?

if not ccbill, then what ?

spooky181 · 12-12-2006, 02:28 AM

Verotel is the best, even better than CCbill. They are rock solid and process far more sales than scrubbill....

NETbilling · 12-12-2006, 02:33 AM

Let me know if I can answer any questions about our services. We process for thousands of internet merchants.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Phil · 12-12-2006, 02:34 AM

Ibill.com

rook · 12-12-2006, 02:39 AM

- Verotel looks ok,
- some fucking g-spot.... is lauching when i try to access Ibill.com,
- Netbilling seems to be expensive

AGP Albert · 12-12-2006, 03:01 AM

Silvercash has been a long standing client with Epoch/Paycom. They are a tremendous team with excellent through put on transactions. However, their customer service, accessibility, innovation with customizing solutions for their clients have been a cornerstone of their success. To most affiliate programs, to choose between billing companies, the things I listed above are imperative in making a good decision. Paycom is a solid team and their recent ten year anniversary is a testament to exceptional service.

CCBill is in our cascading billing system and they provides many of the great attributes Paycom does and you will find many of the larger companies choose beteen the two as primary and secondary processor. CCBill has a consistent track record of stable results and I am confident you will find both companies with a mutual respect for the other.

Along with your own Merchant Account, we use NetBilling in our cascading system. I have not had much personal experience with MA's but there are many of our partners who use them religiously. There are significant advantages, just be sure you have the infrastructure to serve your clients. The flexibility and flow of transaction of MA's tend to be a common draw to use this strategy for billing. However I am not an expert in MA's and I encourage you to contact them directly.

IMHO opinion, if you are serious about billing, do your research and cascade third party billing companies for your own safety. Try them all out and see what works best for you. Your rebills, conversions, through put, premium features won't lie when you look at profit margins. It is a game of RISK and compliance to credit card legislation - that changes seems to change hourly at times

Silvercash is entering its 10th year of anniversary but we are not the only company who can give you real advice. Our needs are different then others and we have found our fit with Paycom and the partners above. At the end of the day there is a price tag on all of them, so ensure you have done your research because errors for billing have a hefty price tag.

Good Luck.

en21 · 12-12-2006, 03:18 AM

I agree with silvercash

Rand · 12-12-2006, 09:48 AM

Wow. Thanks for the good words Albert.

And to all, no, Albert is not on the payroll here. ;-) But maybe he should be!

Rook - Get in touch with us and let's see if we are a good fit for each other. Billing is our business and I think you'll find that we offer the solutions you are looking for and maybe a few you hadn't thought of.

[email protected] / 888-627-3888

ajrocks · 12-12-2006, 09:52 AM

I'm hearing really good things about commerce gate.

Klen · 12-12-2006, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks

I'm hearing really good things about commerce gate.

Does they allow clients outside USA/EU?

Harmik · 12-12-2006, 11:04 AM

Hello
I am with epoch and I can help you, if you have any questions about any billing issues

Ben.Z · 12-12-2006, 11:21 AM

Hi rook,

I invite you to take a look at WTS (ACHdebit.com). Our understanding of the ACH processing industry allows us to specialize in providing the most innovative check based solutions for your business.

I'd love to discuss this in more detail with you. Feel free to drop me a line, or fill out our signup form to get started.

Kind Regards,
Ben Zuckerman

Account Manager
Web Transaction Services
Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168
ICQ: 138827832

aico · 12-12-2006, 12:31 PM

I use Epoch

Customer service is ok I guess, when I ask for something it gets done. Customer Service seems to be great if you are a sexy girl running your own website, but for the me it's just ok, I guess. I am not even sure who my rep is, they haven't contacted me since I started with them 2 years ago. But, like I said, if you're a sexy girl running your own website, they email you non-stop asking you to go to lunch so you can discuss how to make more money... go figure.

NETbilling · 12-12-2006, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rook

- Verotel looks ok,
- some fucking g-spot.... is lauching when i try to access Ibill.com,
- Netbilling seems to be expensive

We actually have some of the lowest prices in the industry.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Webby · 12-13-2006, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

I use Epoch

Customer service is ok I guess, when I ask for something it gets done. Customer Service seems to be great if you are a sexy girl running your own website, but for the me it's just ok, I guess. I am not even sure who my rep is, they haven't contacted me since I started with them 2 years ago. But, like I said, if you're a sexy girl running your own website, they email you non-stop asking you to go to lunch so you can discuss how to make more money... go figure.

Nice hit of reality!

jollyperv · 12-13-2006, 01:39 AM

Ccbill and Paycom are the best. Somedays one is better than the other.

Star 69 · 12-13-2006, 06:10 AM

If not CCbill than Verotel

Harmik · 12-13-2006, 10:39 AM

Hello aico,
please send me an e-mail and I will take care of anything that you need and make sure
everything is alright

chaze · 12-13-2006, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star 69

If not CCbill than Verotel

As far as I know this is exact.

mmaisonet · 12-13-2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Does they allow clients outside USA/EU?

Where are you located? Perhaps i can help as well.

rook · 12-19-2006, 01:43 AM

Thanx everyones for answers!!

I chose, both, ccbill and verotel.
I think this is good idea.

thanx for all again.

spooky181 · 12-19-2006, 02:17 AM

Wise choice you can't go wrong...

Vince Charlton · 12-20-2006, 02:17 AM

Interconsult Group, based in Jersey, Channel Islands UK, have been processing Adult for over 4 years offering low cost, secure Merchant Accounts through European acquiring banks with the added benefit of all merchant reserves being held within 3rd party Escrow accounts.

If anyone has any questions on European accounts, please icq me on 469-795-576 or email me direct at [email protected]

Regards

Vince

Barefootsies · 12-20-2006, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rook

what is yours favorite, most stable, and most certain
with your opinion billing system ?

if not ccbill, then what ?

I used BOTH Verotel, and CCBill. I've been veryhappy with both. I've had CCBill for almost a quarter now, and had Verotel since last year.

I have B-H-E processing my online store, and DVD.

bizarredollars · 12-20-2006, 07:00 AM

I have always been very happy with CCBill and Verotel.. Have been with both companies for years, and never a problem or late payment.

Dr. Wicks · 12-20-2006, 07:33 AM

Rook,

Get in touch with any of us in sales here at CCBill and we will be happy to help assist you in setting up!

IrieMax · 12-20-2006, 07:58 AM

Commerce Gate & CCBill are the Best!!! Great service, faithful support and friendly people!!!

jact · 12-20-2006, 08:08 AM

This is an interesting thread. My experiences with CCBill and Epoch have both been positive, I haven't used Verotel personally so I can't comment. Netbilling, I haven't used, but their system is extremely robust and their rates are killer good if you have the volume. (I looked their system over very thoroughly, but didn't have the volume to justify).

jact · 12-20-2006, 08:12 AM

BTW, where's mention of all these other companies?

# Billing (IPSP) of the Year
365Billing, CCBill, Commercegate, DHDMedia, Epoch, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Merch Service) of the Year
DHDMedia, Durango, Merchant Solutions, NetBilling, Solepay, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Alternative)
2000Charge, ChargeMeLater, ElectraCash, GXBill, MobillCash.com, NetBilling, NoCreditCard.com, PasswordByPhone, PureVanilla, WTS.

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553

You'd think in order to get nominated, someone should be raving about them?

Barefootsies · 12-20-2006, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

BTW, where's mention of all these other companies?

# Billing (IPSP) of the Year
365Billing, CCBill, Commercegate, DHDMedia, Epoch, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Merch Service) of the Year
DHDMedia, Durango, Merchant Solutions, NetBilling, Solepay, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Alternative)
2000Charge, ChargeMeLater, ElectraCash, GXBill, MobillCash.com, NetBilling, NoCreditCard.com, PasswordByPhone, PureVanilla, WTS.

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553

You'd think in order to get nominated, someone should be raving about them?

Correct.

emjay · 12-30-2006, 03:32 PM

The credit card is and remains the best mechanism to bill for monthly suscriptions.

However, given the fact that the web is a global medium and the majority of the world does not have one, phone billing is a must - not least since practically everyone has access to a phone or cell.

We recommend that clients use us as a primary processor in all developing markets, and as a secondary one in all developed ones.

We can create geo-ip versions of your site(s) with call-to-action in 37 languages including Russian, Japanese, Arabic and Chinese to help convert the massive Asian market

References: http://www.password-by-phone.com/testimonials.php

Healthy and wealthy '07 to all

NETbilling · 12-30-2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

This is an interesting thread. My experiences with CCBill and Epoch have both been positive, I haven't used Verotel personally so I can't comment. Netbilling, I haven't used, but their system is extremely robust and their rates are killer good if you have the volume. (I looked their system over very thoroughly, but didn't have the volume to justify).

Thanks you for the kind words Jact. Let me know if we can help you in the future.

Mitch

bizarredollars · 12-31-2006, 02:25 AM

I have never had a bad experience with either CCBill or Verotel.. they are both great companies... Never a late payment.

emjay · 02-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact

BTW, where's mention of all these other companies?

# Billing (IPSP) of the Year
365Billing, CCBill, Commercegate, DHDMedia, Epoch, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Merch Service) of the Year
DHDMedia, Durango, Merchant Solutions, NetBilling, Solepay, Standard Pay.

# Billing (Alternative)
2000Charge, ChargeMeLater, ElectraCash, GXBill, MobillCash.com, NetBilling, NoCreditCard.com, PasswordByPhone, PureVanilla, WTS.

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553

You'd think in order to get nominated, someone should be raving about them?

php · 03-19-2007, 09:50 PM

If you signup with Paycom, I can definitely help you get setup with their Join Pages, Premium Features, Data Plus, etc. Used to work there and now an independent programmer due to relocation. Hit me up ICQ if you need my services.

12-12-2006, 02:13 AM	#1
rook Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	best billing systems ? what is yours favorite, most stable, and most certain with your opinion billing system ? if not ccbill, then what ?

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12-12-2006, 03:01 AM	#6
AGP Albert Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 720	Silvercash has been a long standing client with Epoch/Paycom. They are a tremendous team with excellent through put on transactions. However, their customer service, accessibility, innovation with customizing solutions for their clients have been a cornerstone of their success. To most affiliate programs, to choose between billing companies, the things I listed above are imperative in making a good decision. Paycom is a solid team and their recent ten year anniversary is a testament to exceptional service. CCBill is in our cascading billing system and they provides many of the great attributes Paycom does and you will find many of the larger companies choose beteen the two as primary and secondary processor. CCBill has a consistent track record of stable results and I am confident you will find both companies with a mutual respect for the other. Along with your own Merchant Account, we use NetBilling in our cascading system. I have not had much personal experience with MA's but there are many of our partners who use them religiously. There are significant advantages, just be sure you have the infrastructure to serve your clients. The flexibility and flow of transaction of MA's tend to be a common draw to use this strategy for billing. However I am not an expert in MA's and I encourage you to contact them directly. IMHO opinion, if you are serious about billing, do your research and cascade third party billing companies for your own safety. Try them all out and see what works best for you. Your rebills, conversions, through put, premium features won't lie when you look at profit margins. It is a game of RISK and compliance to credit card legislation - that changes seems to change hourly at times Silvercash is entering its 10th year of anniversary but we are not the only company who can give you real advice. Our needs are different then others and we have found our fit with Paycom and the partners above. At the end of the day there is a price tag on all of them, so ensure you have done your research because errors for billing have a hefty price tag. Good Luck. __________________ AGP ALBERT ALTOGLOBALPROCESSING.COM Email: [email protected] Office: 305.532.8701 Fax: 305.532.8702 ICQ: 585003252 Skype:Albert.AGP BB PIN: 31CBA558 www.AltoGlobalProcessing.com [email protected] See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com! See My Ambush Interview!

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12-12-2006, 02:28 AM	#2
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Verotel is the best, even better than CCbill. They are rock solid and process far more sales than scrubbill....

12-12-2006, 02:39 AM	#5
rook Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	- Verotel looks ok, - some fucking g-spot.... is lauching when i try to access Ibill.com, - Netbilling seems to be expensive

12-12-2006, 09:48 AM	#8
Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	Wow. Thanks for the good words Albert. And to all, no, Albert is not on the payroll here. ;-) But maybe he should be! Rook - Get in touch with us and let's see if we are a good fit for each other. Billing is our business and I think you'll find that we offer the solutions you are looking for and maybe a few you hadn't thought of. [email protected] / 888-627-3888 __________________ -- Rand Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

12-12-2006, 09:52 AM	#9
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12-12-2006, 11:04 AM	#11
Harmik Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los angeles Posts: 209	Hello I am with epoch and I can help you, if you have any questions about any billing issues __________________ ---- Harmik @ Epoch/dot/com - ICQ: 235234116 - Skype: Epoch.com

12-12-2006, 11:21 AM	#12
Ben.Z Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CardReady.com Posts: 1,164	Hi rook, I invite you to take a look at WTS (ACHdebit.com). Our understanding of the ACH processing industry allows us to specialize in providing the most innovative check based solutions for your business. I'd love to discuss this in more detail with you. Feel free to drop me a line, or fill out our signup form to get started. Kind Regards, Ben Zuckerman Account Manager Web Transaction Services Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168 ICQ: 138827832 __________________ *Credit Card Processing for Adult Merchants* Contact me: Ben Z. (ben\|AT\|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832 Toll Free: 1.888.398.6001 Ext.212 Last edited by Ben.Z; 12-12-2006 at 11:23 AM..

12-12-2006, 12:31 PM	#13
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	I use Epoch Customer service is ok I guess, when I ask for something it gets done. Customer Service seems to be great if you are a sexy girl running your own website, but for the me it's just ok, I guess. I am not even sure who my rep is, they haven't contacted me since I started with them 2 years ago. But, like I said, if you're a sexy girl running your own website, they email you non-stop asking you to go to lunch so you can discuss how to make more money... go figure.

12-13-2006, 01:39 AM	#16
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	Ccbill and Paycom are the best. Somedays one is better than the other.

12-13-2006, 06:10 AM	#17
Star 69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 8,602	If not CCbill than Verotel __________________ e-mail star69

12-13-2006, 10:39 AM	#18
Harmik Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los angeles Posts: 209	Hello aico, please send me an e-mail and I will take care of anything that you need and make sure everything is alright __________________ ---- Harmik @ Epoch/dot/com - ICQ: 235234116 - Skype: Epoch.com

12-19-2006, 01:43 AM	#21
rook Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	Thanx everyones for answers!! I chose, both, ccbill and verotel. I think this is good idea. thanx for all again.

12-19-2006, 02:17 AM	#22
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Wise choice you can't go wrong...

12-20-2006, 02:17 AM	#23
Vince Charlton Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Jersey Channel Islands UK Posts: 38	Interconsult Group, based in Jersey, Channel Islands UK, have been processing Adult for over 4 years offering low cost, secure Merchant Accounts through European acquiring banks with the added benefit of all merchant reserves being held within 3rd party Escrow accounts. If anyone has any questions on European accounts, please icq me on 469-795-576 or email me direct at [email protected] Regards Vince __________________ eMerchantPay - European based Direct Merchant Accounts www.emerchantpay.com

12-20-2006, 07:00 AM	#25
bizarredollars Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bizarredollars.com Posts: 1,582	I have always been very happy with CCBill and Verotel.. Have been with both companies for years, and never a problem or late payment. __________________ [email protected] icq: 205-252-550

12-20-2006, 07:33 AM	#26
Dr. Wicks Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 419	Rook, Get in touch with any of us in sales here at CCBill and we will be happy to help assist you in setting up! __________________ Dr. Wicks Our Experience Payze doug at payze.com

12-20-2006, 07:58 AM	#27
IrieMax Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 112	Commerce Gate & CCBill are the Best!!! Great service, faithful support and friendly people!!!

12-20-2006, 08:08 AM	#28
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	This is an interesting thread. My experiences with CCBill and Epoch have both been positive, I haven't used Verotel personally so I can't comment. Netbilling, I haven't used, but their system is extremely robust and their rates are killer good if you have the volume. (I looked their system over very thoroughly, but didn't have the volume to justify). __________________ Free agent

12-20-2006, 08:12 AM	#29
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	BTW, where's mention of all these other companies? # Billing (IPSP) of the Year 365Billing, CCBill, Commercegate, DHDMedia, Epoch, Standard Pay. # Billing (Merch Service) of the Year DHDMedia, Durango, Merchant Solutions, NetBilling, Solepay, Standard Pay. # Billing (Alternative) 2000Charge, ChargeMeLater, ElectraCash, GXBill, MobillCash.com, NetBilling, NoCreditCard.com, PasswordByPhone, PureVanilla, WTS. http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18553 You'd think in order to get nominated, someone should be raving about them? __________________ Free agent

12-30-2006, 03:32 PM	#31
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	The credit card is and remains the best mechanism to bill for monthly suscriptions. However, given the fact that the web is a global medium and the majority of the world does not have one, phone billing is a must - not least since practically everyone has access to a phone or cell. We recommend that clients use us as a primary processor in all developing markets, and as a secondary one in all developed ones. We can create geo-ip versions of your site(s) with call-to-action in 37 languages including Russian, Japanese, Arabic and Chinese to help convert the massive Asian market References: http://www.password-by-phone.com/testimonials.php Healthy and wealthy '07 to all __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

12-31-2006, 02:25 AM	#33
bizarredollars Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bizarredollars.com Posts: 1,582	I have never had a bad experience with either CCBill or Verotel.. they are both great companies... Never a late payment. __________________ [email protected] icq: 205-252-550

03-19-2007, 09:50 PM	#35
php Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16	If you signup with Paycom, I can definitely help you get setup with their Join Pages, Premium Features, Data Plus, etc. Used to work there and now an independent programmer due to relocation. Hit me up ICQ if you need my services. __________________ ICQ: 481536774