Free Speech Coalition Alert - Bush Extremist Judge - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 02:36 PM

Got this in my email today. Please take a moment and read it.

FREE SPEECH COALITION
ACTION ALERT

HELP KEEP PRISCILLA OWEN OFF THE
5TH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS

In another attempt to pack federal courts with followers of the Radical Right, President G. W. Bush has nominated Priscilla Owen to a seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. Owen is an enemy of the First Amendment and during her seven years on the Texas Supreme Court, advocated positions far to the right of her conservative colleagues appointed by then-Governor Bush. If confirmed, Owen's extreme views would threaten the rights and liberties of citizens in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas.

Justice Owen's record reveals her to be the type of judge President Bush claims to dislike. She is a judge who attempts to make law from the bench. According to People for the American Way, ?Bush's own White House counsel, Alberto Gonzalez, who served on the Texas Supreme Court with Owen, described one dissenting opinion Owen joined as ?an unconscionable act of judicial activism?.?

Owen has a key ally in the White House: Karl Rove who is now the top Bush political advisor. Rove was Owen?s campaign manager and is determined to confirm Owen and other right-wing ideologues to our federal courts. He believes that this is the only way to hold on to the president's extreme right-wing voter base.

You helped us keep Charles Pickering off the 5th Circuit in March. Priscilla Owen is just another right-wing nominee to this important court. Because this hearing is pending this coming Tuesday, July 23rd, we need you to CALL your Senators ASAP and urge them to REJECT Owen's confirmation. To phone, go to:

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

1.) Click on your state.

2.) The first two names on the list that appears are your senators.

3.) Call the DC phone # and let them that you oppose this
nomination, which would only increase our problems in
the southern tier states.

Thanks for your help.

FREE SPEECH COALITION

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 02:39 PM

so you assumed that we wanted to be subjected to it as well?

funkmaster · 07-19-2002, 02:39 PM

... anyone wants me to post some of the emails I am receiving ??

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 02:43 PM

You guys are too much.

Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is? They are the ones who help keep your asses out of jail and help keep money in your pocket.

If you don't care about the First Amendment, feel free to just ignore this thread, ignore politics, ignore extremist judges, and just keep on posting about all of important things you usually post about.

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
feel free to just ignore this thread, ignore politics, ignore extremist judges, and just keep on posting about all of important things you usually post about.

ok....

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

ok....

Just hope the Free Speech Coalition doesn't ignore you when you need it.

Pathfinder · 07-19-2002, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
You guys are too much.

Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is? They are the ones who help keep your asses out of jail and help keep money in your pocket.

If you don't care about the First Amendment, feel free to just ignore this thread, ignore politics, ignore extremist judges, and just keep on posting about all of important things you usually post about.

Never fear, the Democrats will never let it happen.

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 02:49 PM

jas1552 · 07-19-2002, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
You guys are too much.

Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is? They are the ones who help keep your asses out of jail and help keep money in your pocket.

If you don't care about the First Amendment, feel free to just ignore this thread, ignore politics, ignore extremist judges, and just keep on posting about all of important things you usually post about.

The extremist judges are the ones who try to write law from the bench. Like saying the constitution has anything at all to do with abortion. And you can't VOLUNTARILY say the pledge in school
because it has the words "under god" and some people might not want to hear it. You don't want judges who correctly interpret the constitution. You want judges from the left who do anything they think is the "right thing to do" the constitution and they're obligation to uphold it be damned.

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552

The extremist judges are the ones who try to write law from the bench. Like saying the constitution has anything at all to do with abortion. And you can't VOLUNTARILY say the pledge in school
because it has the words "under god" and some people might not want to hear it. You don't want judges who correctly interpret the constitution. You want judges from the left who do anything they think is the "right thing to do" the constitution and they're obligation to uphold it be damned.

You are a walking advertisement for talk radio propaganda.

Right wing judges are far more often "activist" than left wing judges. Look no further than the right wing members of the Supreme Court for your proof.

Read the article I posted, here is a quote:

Bush's own White House counsel, Alberto Gonzalez, who served on the Texas Supreme Court with Owen, described one dissenting opinion Owen joined as ?an unconscionable act of judicial activism?.?

I've said this before and I will say it again, turn off the fucking radio!

jas1552 · 07-19-2002, 02:54 PM

I don't listen to talk radio. I simply calls em as i sees em.

Lensman · 07-19-2002, 02:55 PM

I'm glad these guys are looking out for our Industry's interests.

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552
I don't listed to talk radio. I simply calls em as i sees em.

Yeah, and Fox is fair and balanced.

funkmaster · 07-19-2002, 02:58 PM

"Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is?"

.. no, sir ... I don´t know who they are, but here is an email I received today ...

----------
Hi, we had a routor issue earlier this morning but it should be fine
now. Evert has been out the last three days doing exactly that. He's been on
roofs of buildings trying to get a clear path to Santa Monica. He'll be back
later this evening. Could you forward us pat's e-mail address so we have
that on file here with us, please
----------

jas1552 · 07-19-2002, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Yeah, and Fox is fair and balanced.

Yes. Yes they are.

.:Frog:. · 07-19-2002, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
I'm glad these guys are looking out for our Industry's interests.

No kidding. Its unreal some adult webmasters don't care about the Free Speech Coalition. If pornsites were gone I bet half the people here would be flipping burgers for a living.

RW316 · 07-19-2002, 03:05 PM

oh no

jas1552 · 07-19-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
I'm glad these guys are looking out for our Industry's interests.

I definately agree with that. I mean i truly don't believe that porn is speech. There is no statement made by it and it generally isn't artistic. It's just to get dudes off.
Of course porn can be used to make a point or statement but usually it isn't. But yeah calling porn constitutionally protected speech is one good thing about liberal activist judges.

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552

I definately agree with that. I mean i truly don't believe that porn is speech. There is no statement made by it and it generally isn't artistic. It's just to get dudes off.
Of course porn can be used to make a point or statement but usually it isn't. But yeah calling porn constitutionally protected speech is one good thing about liberal activist judges.

Now I know you're joking.

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 03:17 PM

here's one of the "issues" listed on their site.... (I was also following this story before I hauled ass outta Cali)

Quote:

GIRL ALLOWED BACK IN SCHOOL, MOM QUITS
SACRAMENTO, CA -- A Christian school that expelled a kindergartner because her mother worked as a stripper decided to let the girl return to school for the last three weeks of classes.
Christina Silvas, 24, agreed to stop working at Gold Club Centerfolds during that time. She said she will explore several job offers made by local businesses after her plight became national news.
Silvas' 5-year-old daughter was expelled last week from Capital Christian School, which is run by the 4,000-member Capital Christian Center, one of the country's largest Assemblies of God churches.
At enrollment, students' parents must sign a document stating they agree with the church's "Christian Commitment/Philosophy," which requires weekly church attendance and stipulates "a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."
Silvas said her daughter won't return to Capital Christian for first grade.
"I want to find a school less concerned with image and more concerned with the welfare of children," she said.
From an article in The Buffalo News, 5/21/02

now, while I agree that what that school did was fucked up.... someone please help me understand how this is a free speech case.

cuz I don't get it.... they kicked her kid out because they didn't like the fact that she was a stripper. How does that violate the first amendment?

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 03:20 PM

(btw, there's more "issues" in there that also don't make any sense in a "free speech" kinda way, but I just picked one so as not to be quoting a whole damn page)

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
here's one of the "issues" listed on their site.... (I was also following this story before I hauled ass outta Cali)

now, while I agree that what that school did was fucked up.... someone please help me understand how this is a free speech case. cuz I don't get it.... they kicked her kid out because they didn't like the fact that she was a stripper. How does that violate the first amendment?

I would assume that they got involved because her kid was punished for the fact that she choose to work in the adult industry, which is totally legal.

If your kid was punished at school because you choose to do design for adult sites, or because you were a Mormon, or because you protested againt Clinton, or you were a Nazi, or whatever else, you would probably see this as a civil rights issue as well.

I am just guessing at why they got involved.

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 03:26 PM

well, I would suppose that'd depend on what it says in their agreement that she signed in order to get her kid enrolled.....

btw, the last update I heard on this story was that they agreed to allow the kid back since she quit the stripping gig and instead she's taken an offer to pose nude in a magazine.

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
well, I would suppose that'd depend on what it says in their agreement that she signed in order to get her kid enrolled.....

btw, the last update I heard on this story was that they agreed to allow the kid back since she quit the stripping gig and instead she's taken an offer to pose nude in a magazine.

I don't know the specifics of that case. I was just basing my post on what you posted.

I think that beyond the free speech issues, they also extend legal help to adult industry people who need help.

One of their events that I attended in Los Angeles last year (I think it was last year) featured a number of big ass free speech lawyers. A number of the lawyers they work with have argued cases in front of the Supreme Court.

Larry Flynt is also a big supporter of the Free Speech Coalition.

jas1552 · 07-19-2002, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
well, I would suppose that'd depend on what it says in their agreement that she signed in order to get her kid enrolled.....

btw, the last update I heard on this story was that they agreed to allow the kid back since she quit the stripping gig and instead she's taken an offer to pose nude in a magazine.

I saw this story a while back on The O'reilly Factor. I believe there was a morality clause in the contract, and she admitted she knew she broke the contract cuz she said she only took a job at a strip club hours away so the school wouldn't find out. I could be mistaken in my memory but i believe a parent of another student went to that club, saw her, and reported her to the school.

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I think that beyond the free speech issues, they also extend legal help to adult industry people who need help.

One of their events that I attended in Los Angeles last year (I think it was last year) featured a number of big ass free speech lawyers. A number of the lawyers they work with have argued cases in front of the Supreme Court.

Larry Flynt is also a big supporter of the Free Speech Coalition.

well that's cool..... right on. I'm all for free speech, Larry Flynt, freedom to drink beer, eat pussy, barbequed spare ribs, and the NRA..... but that still doesn't mean I necessarily care about their spam or newsletter or update or whatever it is that got sent to your inbox..... so don't hold it against me if I'm an ass....

Mr.Fiction · 07-19-2002, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

well that's cool..... right on. I'm all for free speech, Larry Flynt, freedom to drink beer, eat pussy, barbequed spare ribs, and the NRA..... but that still doesn't mean I necessarily care about their spam or newsletter or update or whatever it is that got sent to your inbox..... so don't hold it against me if I'm an ass....

Are you going to be in Florida? I'll print out some of my other emails and put them in a folder for you.

Scootermuze · 07-19-2002, 03:47 PM

I think the freedom of speech thing includes freedom of expression which broadens the scope considerably..

Amputate Your Head · 07-19-2002, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Are you going to be in Florida? I'll print out some of my other emails and put them in a folder for you.

yeah, I'll be the guy in the bright orange robes and bald head with a big tropical lizard on a leash....

Massivecock · 07-19-2002, 04:00 PM

Thanks Bro!

07-19-2002, 02:36 PM	#1
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Free Speech Coalition Alert - Bush Extremist Judge Got this in my email today. Please take a moment and read it. FREE SPEECH COALITION ACTION ALERT HELP KEEP PRISCILLA OWEN OFF THE 5TH DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS In another attempt to pack federal courts with followers of the Radical Right, President G. W. Bush has nominated Priscilla Owen to a seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. Owen is an enemy of the First Amendment and during her seven years on the Texas Supreme Court, advocated positions far to the right of her conservative colleagues appointed by then-Governor Bush. If confirmed, Owen's extreme views would threaten the rights and liberties of citizens in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas. Justice Owen's record reveals her to be the type of judge President Bush claims to dislike. She is a judge who attempts to make law from the bench. According to People for the American Way, ?Bush's own White House counsel, Alberto Gonzalez, who served on the Texas Supreme Court with Owen, described one dissenting opinion Owen joined as ?an unconscionable act of judicial activism?.? Owen has a key ally in the White House: Karl Rove who is now the top Bush political advisor. Rove was Owen?s campaign manager and is determined to confirm Owen and other right-wing ideologues to our federal courts. He believes that this is the only way to hold on to the president's extreme right-wing voter base. You helped us keep Charles Pickering off the 5th Circuit in March. Priscilla Owen is just another right-wing nominee to this important court. Because this hearing is pending this coming Tuesday, July 23rd, we need you to CALL your Senators ASAP and urge them to REJECT Owen's confirmation. To phone, go to: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ 1.) Click on your state. 2.) The first two names on the list that appears are your senators. 3.) Call the DC phone # and let them that you oppose this nomination, which would only increase our problems in the southern tier states. Thanks for your help. FREE SPEECH COALITION

07-19-2002, 02:39 PM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	so you assumed that we wanted to be subjected to it as well?

07-19-2002, 02:39 PM	#3
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... anyone wants me to post some of the emails I am receiving ??

07-19-2002, 02:43 PM	#4
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	You guys are too much. Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is? They are the ones who help keep your asses out of jail and help keep money in your pocket. If you don't care about the First Amendment, feel free to just ignore this thread, ignore politics, ignore extremist judges, and just keep on posting about all of important things you usually post about.

07-19-2002, 02:49 PM	#8
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075

07-19-2002, 02:54 PM	#11
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	I don't listen to talk radio. I simply calls em as i sees em.

07-19-2002, 02:55 PM	#12
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	I'm glad these guys are looking out for our Industry's interests.

07-19-2002, 02:58 PM	#14
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"Do you know who the Free Speech Coalition is?" .. no, sir ... I don´t know who they are, but here is an email I received today ... ---------- Hi, we had a routor issue earlier this morning but it should be fine now. Evert has been out the last three days doing exactly that. He's been on roofs of buildings trying to get a clear path to Santa Monica. He'll be back later this evening. Could you forward us pat's e-mail address so we have that on file here with us, please ----------

07-19-2002, 03:05 PM	#17
RW316 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,103	oh no

07-19-2002, 03:20 PM	#21
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	(btw, there's more "issues" in there that also don't make any sense in a "free speech" kinda way, but I just picked one so as not to be quoting a whole damn page)

07-19-2002, 03:26 PM	#23
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	well, I would suppose that'd depend on what it says in their agreement that she signed in order to get her kid enrolled..... btw, the last update I heard on this story was that they agreed to allow the kid back since she quit the stripping gig and instead she's taken an offer to pose nude in a magazine.

07-19-2002, 03:47 PM	#28
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	I think the freedom of speech thing includes freedom of expression which broadens the scope considerably..

07-19-2002, 04:00 PM	#30
Massivecock Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 800	Thanks Bro!