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Old 12-06-2006, 11:38 PM   #51
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Great post, why the "dumb shits" of hollywood never made a movie out of this story is beyond me....amazing shit.
They will. I know of a BOOK written about it already.

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Old 12-06-2006, 11:51 PM   #52
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wow..the never ending drama...how many years has this story been going on for now?
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:52 PM   #53
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:36 AM   #54
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Sex.com value drops another 50% - who the fuck would be mad enough to touch that shit now?.......
Me and just about anybody else. Fuck that guy lol... my dog will eat him.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:54 AM   #55
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Gustavo Cortes Carvajal Kidnapped Quote

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El Licenciado en Derecho Gustavo Cortés Carvajal, tiene varios días desaparecido. Se presume en el ámbito jurídico de Tijuana, que fue secuestrado. Litigante, es dueño de un edificio en la zona del Río. Aún así, las autoridades prefieren no ver la inseguridad en que viven los gobernados.
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Attorney at law Gustavo Cortes Carvajal has been whereabouts unknown for several days. It is presumed in legal circles that he was kidnapped. A litigator, he own a building the Zona del rio. Even so, the authorities prefer to ignore the insecurity that fills the lives of the people they govern.

There is no date on this report, which appears at the bottom of a long page of reporters who have gone missing after photographing one too many crime scene. They killed the Mexican presidential candidate down there one time, which is why I preferred to take Cohen's deposition, and that of his straw man Roman Caso, in Ensenada. He was a big jerk that day, and pretty much every day. It doesn't really matter if people smile at you, if they always do the worst for you and the best for themselves.

For my money, though, Steve would not shoot anyone over some time spent in the can. Killing people is petty. Still, Cohen doesn't waste time, wherever he is, and undoubtedly devoted a lot of mindshare to getting even with Gary over the long stay in stir, but the denoument to this story will unfold with greater subtlety, if I know anything about the players. And who would know more?

Chas

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Old 12-07-2006, 01:13 AM   #56
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I can't post the URL due to my tender age as a poster (odd policy!) but you can find this quote by running a site-specific search for "gustavo cortes" using google:
Yep... Lic Gustavo Cortes Carbajal is the same guy acting for Cohen - otherwise known as The Toad

Sheesh... just going thru Stephen Michael Cohen's history - it started decades before the sex.com stuff and he's very well known to US Marshals and the FBI. He's done almost everything (maybe excluding impersonating the President ) - car theft, claimed to work for the CIA (and the reason he "had" to make numerous trips to South America with drug dealers), forgery, grand theft, passing bad checks, bankruptcy frauds, claimed to be an admiral with a West Point background also a lawyer practicing at the California bar and even managed to impersonate a judge for several years - and kept letting people off with offenses

He's been sued and arrested more often than he's ever had breakfasts, had at least five passports, a number of different drivers licenses, several private investigators licenses..... damn, this goes on and on - too silly

Can somebody lock him up soon - for his own and the protection of the public
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:11 AM   #58
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I'm with you Webby. this guy seems like a real nut, but crazy enough to be involved in a murder the day he gets out of prison?
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I'm with you Webby. this guy seems like a real nut, but crazy enough to be involved in a murder the day he gets out of prison?
Only a gutty feeling, but agree and doubt it. It's not in his modus operandi so far, tho he has assaulted people, but suspect he's too bright to attempt to murder his lawyer, or, on his mind games to leave the impression that it's too absurd.

It's wide open on possibilities till there is an investigation. Cortes is not exactly a saint in Mexico. Cohen has plenty enemies - and "good friends" who are crooks. Stuff has been happening in the background while Cohen was incarcerated. People get greedy when the bank manager goes on holiday and leaves the safe keys behind. It could be others lining Cohen up for a fall - the possibilities are endless.

Tho, somehow smell this is going to be just as colorful as Cohen's life - even tho he may not be involved directly
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Gary Kremen should at least get his ass kicked for stealing my domain.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:49 AM   #62
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Still, Cohen doesn't waste time, wherever he is, and undoubtedly devoted a lot of mindshare to getting even with Gary over the long stay in stir...
Or how bout Gary's lawyer? I wonder if Cohen stewed about him much...
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:08 AM   #63
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If you tried hard you could not make up shit like the SEX.COM story.
Sounds like a made for TV movie script.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:15 AM   #64
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the sex.com story is so fucked up.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:34 AM   #66
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Owning sex.com when he did, he should have at least 250 mil offshore somewhere
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I wonder howmuch sex.com have daily visits.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:56 PM   #71
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Sex.com Highjacker Cohen Released from Prison

SAN JOSE, Calif. ? Stephen Michael Cohen, the man who hijacked Sex.com from Gary Kremen, was released from prison Dec. 5, XBIZ has confirmed. According to court documents, Judge James Ware of U.S. District Court in San Jose, Calif., granted Cohen?s release.

Former Sex.com owner Kremen, says Cohen was released because he persuaded the court he could not substantially gather financial records while incarcerated.


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"Cohen has been ordered to return to court Feb. 20, to present the court with his financial findings."

LOL what's the over/under on him actually showing up?
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Well dear friends, I have written a book about the whole story up until I stopped working for GK two months after we won the domain. It's called The Sex.Com Chronicles, and it's with my agent right now, shopping to publishers. Here's the table of contents:

The Sex.Com Chronicles

DEDICATION……………………………………………………………………………...2
FOREWORD……………………………………………………………………………….3
CHAPTER ONE: PIZZA IN OJAI………………………………………………………6
CHAPTER TWO: THE HARDER THEY COME……………………………………10
CHAPTER THREE: THE STARLIGHT SPECIAL………………………………….16
CHAPTER FOUR: WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE. ……………………………….18
CHAPTER FIVE: WHAT MORAL HIGH GROUND?.........................................23
CHAPTER SIX: THEORY OF THE CASE…………………………………………..25
CHAPTER SEVEN: COMING IN UNDER THE RADAR………………………….34
CHAPTER EIGHT: FORTUNE SMILES………………………………………….…39
CHAPTER NINE: DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE…………………………………….44
CHAPTER TEN: GARY’S DEPOSITION, PART TWO…………………………….49
CHAPTER ELEVEN: THE FRENCH CONNECTION……………………………..53
CHAPTER TWELVE: AN INTRODUCTION TO FEDERAL DISCOVERY WITH FULL MILITARY METAPHORS……………………………………………...61
CHAPTER THIRTEEN: AN ARMADA OF DECOYS………………………………66
CHAPTER FOURTEEN: THE EXTRA-LEGAL PARALEGAL……………………69
CHAPTER FIFTEEN: WE’RE NOT GOING TO BANGKOK (OR ATHENS, MOSCOW, HAIFA, ETC.)………………………..……………………………72
CHAPTER SIXTEEN: MAKING LEMONADE……………………………………...75
CHAPTER SEVENTEEN: WHERE’S THE DOGBITE?......................................80
CHAPTER EIGHTEEN: RENT A NERD…………………………………………….84
CHAPTER NINETEEN: NSI, SORCERY, AND I…………………………………...87
CHAPTER TWENTY: TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION………………...92
CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE: STEVEN MICHAEL COHEN…………………………………………………………………………..94
CHAPTER TWENTY-TWO: JUST WAIT, IT’S ONLY THE BEGINNING…….104
CHAPTER TWENTY-THREE: “SO FAR, SO GOOD”…………………………...107
CHAPTER TWENTY-FOUR: I’LL LET OUT THE PANZERS AND I’LL CUT OFF YOUR TOES……………………………………………………………..119
CHAPTER TWENTY-FIVE: WE FOUGHT THE LAW AND THE LAW WON…………………………………………………………………………….124
CHAPTER TWENTY-SIX: LAWSUIT!.......................................... .....................137
CHAPTER TWENTY-SEVEN: THE HAIL OF LEAD…………………………….142
CHAPTER TWENTY-EIGHT: VICTORY IN THE NORTHWEST………………147
CHAPTER TWENTY-NINE: THE SUBPOENA POWER…………………………………………………………………………153
CHAPTER THIRTY: ROMANCING THE WITNESSES………………………….157
CHAPTER THIRTY-ONE: “SOME CAT IN THE ISLANDS”…………………..165
CHAPTER THIRTY-TWO: IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST…………………………………………………………………………..170
CHAPTER THIRTY-THREE: PARLEY……………………………………………..175
CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR: ON THE TRAIL OF THE SANDMAN……………178
CHAPTER THIRTY-FIVE: THE HILLS OF RANCHO SANTA FE…………….182
CHAPTER THIRTY-SIX: ON DYING GROUND………………………………….185
CHAPTER THIRTY-SEVEN: BECOMING THE ENEMY………………………..194
CHAPTER THIRTY-EIGHT: WHERE THE BODIES ARE BURIED…………..202
CHAPTER THIRTY-NINE: MY MIAMI…………………………………………….215
CHAPTER FORTY: QUEEN OF LIES……………………………………………..220
CHAPTER FORTY-TWO: THE RUNAWAY STAGECOACH……………………224
CHAPTER FORTY-THREE: INCIDENT AT CHULA VISTA……………………231
CHAPTER FORTY-FOUR: THE PIPELINE………………………………………238
CHAPTER FORTY-FIVE: THE MAGICIAN AND HIS PHANTOMS………….248
CHAPTER FORTY-SIX: NOTHING LEFT TO TRY………………………………257
CHAPTER FORTY-SEVEN: THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING…………………………………………………………………………….268
CHAPTER FORTY-EIGHT: “S” IS FOR SEND………………………………….274
CHAPTER FORTY-NINE: THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES…………………………………………………………….277
CHAPTER FIFTY: DESPERATE COMPANIONS………………………………..281
CHAPTER FIFTY-ONE: THANK GOD, ANOTHER ENEMY!.........................284
CHAPTER FIFTY-TWO: ENFANT TERRIBLE…………………………………...293
CHAPTER FIFTY-THREE: THE SUN AT MIDDAY……………………………..302
EPILOGUE…………..……………………………………………

Stay tuned!
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LOL what's the over/under on him actually showing up?
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Well dear friends, I have written a book about the whole story up until I stopped working for GK two months after we won the domain. It's called The Sex.Com Chronicles, and it's with my agent right now, shopping to publishers. Here's the table of contents:

The Sex.Com Chronicles

DEDICATION?????????????????????????????...2
FOREWORD??????????????????????????????.3
CHAPTER ONE: PIZZA IN OJAI?????????????????????6
CHAPTER TWO: THE HARDER THEY COME??????????????10
CHAPTER THREE: THE STARLIGHT SPECIAL?????????????.16
CHAPTER FOUR: WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE. ????????????.18
CHAPTER FIVE: WHAT MORAL HIGH GROUND?.........................................23
CHAPTER SIX: THEORY OF THE CASE????????????????..25
CHAPTER SEVEN: COMING IN UNDER THE RADAR??????????.34
CHAPTER EIGHT: FORTUNE SMILES????????????????.?39
CHAPTER NINE: DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE??????????????.44
CHAPTER TEN: GARY?S DEPOSITION, PART TWO???????????.49
CHAPTER ELEVEN: THE FRENCH CONNECTION???????????..53
CHAPTER TWELVE: AN INTRODUCTION TO FEDERAL DISCOVERY WITH FULL MILITARY METAPHORS?????????????????...61
CHAPTER THIRTEEN: AN ARMADA OF DECOYS????????????66
CHAPTER FOURTEEN: THE EXTRA-LEGAL PARALEGAL????????69
CHAPTER FIFTEEN: WE?RE NOT GOING TO BANGKOK (OR ATHENS, MOSCOW, HAIFA, ETC.)?????????..???????????72
CHAPTER SIXTEEN: MAKING LEMONADE??????????????...75
CHAPTER SEVENTEEN: WHERE?S THE DOGBITE?......................................80
CHAPTER EIGHTEEN: RENT A NERD?????????????????.84
CHAPTER NINETEEN: NSI, SORCERY, AND I?????????????...87
CHAPTER TWENTY: TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION??????...92
CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE: STEVEN MICHAEL COHEN????????????????????????????..94
CHAPTER TWENTY-TWO: JUST WAIT, IT?S ONLY THE BEGINNING??.104
CHAPTER TWENTY-THREE: ?SO FAR, SO GOOD???????????...107
CHAPTER TWENTY-FOUR: I?LL LET OUT THE PANZERS AND I?LL CUT OFF YOUR TOES???????????????????????..119
CHAPTER TWENTY-FIVE: WE FOUGHT THE LAW AND THE LAW WON?????????????????????????????.124
CHAPTER TWENTY-SIX: LAWSUIT!.......................................... .....................137
CHAPTER TWENTY-SEVEN: THE HAIL OF LEAD???????????.142
CHAPTER TWENTY-EIGHT: VICTORY IN THE NORTHWEST??????147
CHAPTER TWENTY-NINE: THE SUBPOENA POWER????????????????????????????153
CHAPTER THIRTY: ROMANCING THE WITNESSES??????????.157
CHAPTER THIRTY-ONE: ?SOME CAT IN THE ISLANDS????????..165
CHAPTER THIRTY-TWO: IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST????????????????????????????..170
CHAPTER THIRTY-THREE: PARLEY?????????????????..175
CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR: ON THE TRAIL OF THE SANDMAN?????178
CHAPTER THIRTY-FIVE: THE HILLS OF RANCHO SANTA FE?????.182
CHAPTER THIRTY-SIX: ON DYING GROUND?????????????.185
CHAPTER THIRTY-SEVEN: BECOMING THE ENEMY?????????..194
CHAPTER THIRTY-EIGHT: WHERE THE BODIES ARE BURIED????..202
CHAPTER THIRTY-NINE: MY MIAMI?????????????????.215
CHAPTER FORTY: QUEEN OF LIES?????????????????..220
CHAPTER FORTY-TWO: THE RUNAWAY STAGECOACH????????224
CHAPTER FORTY-THREE: INCIDENT AT CHULA VISTA????????231
CHAPTER FORTY-FOUR: THE PIPELINE???????????????238
CHAPTER FORTY-FIVE: THE MAGICIAN AND HIS PHANTOMS????.248
CHAPTER FORTY-SIX: NOTHING LEFT TO TRY????????????257
CHAPTER FORTY-SEVEN: THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING?????????????????????????????.268
CHAPTER FORTY-EIGHT: ?S? IS FOR SEND?????????????.274
CHAPTER FORTY-NINE: THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES???????????????????????.277
CHAPTER FIFTY: DESPERATE COMPANIONS????????????..281
CHAPTER FIFTY-ONE: THANK GOD, ANOTHER ENEMY!.........................284
CHAPTER FIFTY-TWO: ENFANT TERRIBLE?????????????...293
CHAPTER FIFTY-THREE: THE SUN AT MIDDAY???????????..302
EPILOGUE????..?????????????????

Stay tuned!


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If Cohen had the resources to call a hit on his lawyer, he could have done it from prison - not wait until he was released and call attention to himself.

And if he was actually released, his every move would have been followed, at least by Kremen's PI's, if not by LE working for the court.

Of course, if Cohen went on a bender "when he got out", all bets are off. The guy could really just be a self-destructive idiot.

My 2 cents.

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why the "dumb shits" of hollywood never made a movie out of this story is beyond me....amazing shit.
Pretty sure I met some people at Gary's a year or two ago that already had the rights to the story.
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Ah yes, well my time in the industry was relatively brief.
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Sex.com Highjacker Cohen Released from Prison

Former Sex.com owner Kremen, says Cohen was released because he persuaded the court he could not substantially gather financial records while incarcerated.
How much longer do sane people have to tolerate listening to spewage from a 24/7 liar, abuser, convicted thief, fraudster and trusting him with a passport to travel the globe in search of "financial records" in the hope that he may just turn up in Judge Ware's court on February 20th?? DUH??

Pigs might fly. Cohen has no family "ties" in the US. His own family don't want to see him. His string of ex-wives wish they had never seen him. The majority of his children only remember Dad failing to pay child support and now prefer to live their own lives in peace.

Odds on are that Cohen is once again a free man to travel the globe and play his ego, living a comfortable lifestyle. A warrant gets issued for his arrest from the US? So what? That's the last of Cohen's concerns - he's had more warrants for arrest issued than the numbers of millions he has in bank accounts and laundered.

OK.. there are games going on here - not just on Cohen's side. Let's hope these games are fruitful and there is closure to this stupid saga
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The documentary done by Channel 4 in the UK a few years back was really well done (and has Jstyles and KB in it).

It all just shows that the wild west period had its victims and still does.
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Charles - DID YOU EVER GET PAID FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID??????
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Charles - DID YOU EVER GET PAID FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID??????
And, Charles.........you have been talking about this book for years. Either you wrote a lousy book and thus nobody wants to publish it, or you are as slow as a bug and would rather talk about it instead of print it.

You can always publish it on the internet. I would buy it right now, and so would many.

Tell us the real reasons you haven't published it? Did Kremen legally tie your hands?

No more bullshit. What's the true story? And how could they release Cohen. He is a bad risk. He will jump bail. Who is he paying to get him out? This entire story is very fishy.
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:36 PM   #83
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And, Charles.........you have been talking about this book for years. Either you wrote a lousy book and thus nobody wants to publish it, or you are as slow as a bug and would rather talk about it instead of print it.

You can always publish it on the internet. I would buy it right now, and so would many.

Tell us the real reasons you haven't published it? Did Kremen legally tie your hands?

No more bullshit. What's the true story? And how could they release Cohen. He is a bad risk. He will jump bail. Who is he paying to get him out? This entire story is very fishy.
tell us the real story of why you are a fucking freak that looks like Jabba the Hut that posed as a young girl online, that continually and visciously attacked people in the industry anonymously for years, stalked Kevin Mitnick while he was in prison like a weird fucking psycho and why you failed to show up in court.
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tell us the real story of why you are a fucking freak that looks like Jabba the Hut that posed as a young girl online, that continually and visciously attacked people in the industry anonymously for years, stalked Kevin Mitnick while he was in prison like a weird fucking psycho and why you failed to show up in court.
I keep coming back to this thread in hopes of figuring out the details of all of this...but it just keeps getting stranger and stranger. lol
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Quit trolling asshole. This is a man's life we are talking about. Why would you use the word MURDER in caps if you have no idea and even yourself think it was only a failed attempt.


GFY has reached a new low, claiming fake murder for views.
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Guys stop reading into this. The guy was in TJ. Read the news, and you will know what goes on down here/
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Bump for a very interesting story.
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And, Charles.........you have been talking about this book for years. Either you wrote a lousy book and thus nobody wants to publish it, or you are as slow as a bug and would rather talk about it instead of print it.

You can always publish it on the internet. I would buy it right now, and so would many.

Tell us the real reasons you haven't published it? Did Kremen legally tie your hands?

No more bullshit. What's the true story? And how could they release Cohen. He is a bad risk. He will jump bail. Who is he paying to get him out? This entire story is very fishy.
The book is good, but I didn't finish it until this September. You try writing 390 pages, then rewriting the last ninety pages down to thirty to please your agent, who thinks pornographers aren't a good subject. I could publish it on the Net, and if I do, perhaps I'll publish it with a choice of endings.

No, Gary did not legally tie my hands, and I do explain a whole lot of what happened between us, though the larger part of the book is about going after Cohen.

Nevertheless, I think you are quite fairly chastising me for being a tease, and believe me, I am dying keeping it under wraps every damn day. Now that it really is written, it's very tempting to just pump a PDF into Google base. But then I imagine what it will be like walking into Barnes & Noble and Borders and the airport, and seeing my book there, and I keep biding my time.

As to who's paying Cohen's legal fees, I don't think anyone. I don't think any of the lawyers listed on the last page of the service list (god are those lawyers going to get some spam!) are Cohen's. It stopped being much of a good gig when Judge Ware made Bob Dorband work without pay after he froze Cohen's assets. That's the problem -- with assets frozen, Cohen can't get official representation. First question: how do you get paid?

What's really going on is simply that even though we are now comfortable with the President keeping people in solitary for four years without criminal charges pending, your run-of-the-mill Federal judges appointed by the President and confirmed by Congress have limited powers. Even in a case of criminal contempt, like that of Susan McDougal, who was held in contempt by Ken Starr for 18 months for refusing to testify against Clinton before the Whitewater Grand Jury, the court has to be careful. McDougal was acquitted of all the contempt charges, BTW, when jurors apparently concluded Starr didn't need her testimony at all, and it was just a witch hunt.

The whole idea of locking people up until they talk or cough up cash is rather novel. Gary got the idea from the FTC v. Anderson case, where the government told some fraudsters to repatriate their wrongful gains, or be arrested when they came back to the US. Then, Cohen was bold or foolish enough to defy one court order after another, and Judge Ware decided to try Gary's suggestion. But like I told the Red Herring reporter this afternoon, Gary wasn't paying Cohen's room and board in Federal detention -- the taxpayers were.

Gary will never get a red centavo out of Cohen, which is one of the reasons I broke with Gary after we won Sex.Com. I was totally uninterested in pursuing a Great White Whale.

And if you really want to read the book, register at charlescarreon.com, give me your full legal name, and I'll give you PDF copy after you sign a non-disclosure agreement. Seriously.

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holy shit wow...sounds like this CHicago shit
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Charles - DID YOU EVER GET PAID FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DID??????
Hi Tucker,

I settled, invested the cash in leisure pursuits like my kids' education and paying off the debts I piled up while fighting to get paid. As you know, you never catch up from three years of litigation. I am now back in the pit with the other lawyers, and they are just as tiresome as ever. Just buy my book when it comes out, and I promised to retire from active practice!

No, actually I dearly love recovering stolen domains, and am working on recovering RL.com right now. Bids?

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