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xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 01:04 AM

Hey Dudes

Are there any Affiliate Network out there like Commision Junction etc?

Thankx.

WiredGuy · 12-01-2006, 01:05 AM

Dollars.com was the only one I knew of before they folded their operations.
WG

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 01:11 AM

Any Network still out there then?

VIPimp · 12-01-2006, 01:17 AM

xpays.com ?

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 01:24 AM

was lookiing for something more cj.com like :-)

rounders · 12-01-2006, 01:27 AM

Not that I know off...

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 01:34 AM

Woudn't programs be intersted in be able to add themselves to a network like CJ is, to reach more affiliate?

VIPimp · 12-01-2006, 01:36 AM

Well that is kind of what xpays offers... they have sites from other programs in there as well as their own.

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 01:42 AM

Ahh Okey :-) I just thought of something more Publisher/Advertiser like .-)

CyberHustler · 12-01-2006, 01:44 AM

this thread is the gayish / faggotish type .-)

Sarah_Jayne · 12-01-2006, 03:53 AM

in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

Sarah_Jayne · 12-01-2006, 03:55 AM

in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 05:58 AM

East-Coas-t-Bump :-)

studiocritic · 12-01-2006, 06:14 AM

there really isn't anything.. like sarah said, ccbill is closest.. but it's not even close to what CJ offers in reality

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 06:53 AM

Would you guys use it if something like that existed?

Regards

Christoph

studiocritic · 12-01-2006, 08:17 AM

heh, affiliates would LOVE the check consolidation.

someone who comes out with an adult affiliate network that has cascading processors and all the functionality of CJ is going to make a killing.

Christoph: we're extremely well versed in consulting for affiliate networks and what it takes to make them successful.. if this is a project you're interested in pursuing shoot me an icq and let's talk.

xxxvertising · 12-01-2006, 08:49 AM

West-Coast Bump :-) would like to know what you guys think .-)

Cheers

Christoph

FreeHugeMovies · 12-01-2006, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxvertising

Would you guys use it if something like that existed?

Regards

Christoph

Nope, and trust me it wouldn't work. Besides I think XPays owns this sub affiliate patent or some shit like that.

WiredGuy · 12-01-2006, 09:03 AM

I wouldn't want it for the sole reason that I want the highest payout possible. Having the sponsor paying a management fee to an aggregator would hurt my bottom line that I would keep working directly with sponsors to keep the best payouts possible. The cost of a consolidated check isn't worth losing commissions in my opinion.
WG

Wizzo · 12-01-2006, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I wouldn't want it for the sole reason that I want the highest payout possible. Having the sponsor paying a management fee to an aggregator would hurt my bottom line that I would keep working directly with sponsors to keep the best payouts possible. The cost of a consolidated check isn't worth losing commissions in my opinion.
WG

Couldn't agree more!

Sensual_Sam · 12-01-2006, 09:50 AM

I'd be interested in this information also.

Z · 12-01-2006, 10:51 AM

Dollars.com was one hell of an idea...damn shame it never happened.

fabianb · 12-02-2006, 04:43 AM

WG, A CJ network would not lower your payouts, it would increase your payouts.
Adult affiliate programs are based on 1998 technology and thinking.
A smart adult CJ network would detect your unproductive links and switch to higher production sites/products.

Dollars.com concept was good, only downside was that ALL information was open and mayor programs simply don't want to share that info.

My 2 cnts.

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Manowar · 12-02-2006, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

true that

studiocritic · 12-02-2006, 04:57 AM

well.. WG does have a point, CJ takes between 25-30% of what a merchant pays their affiliate.

so if a merchant wants to pay $27 PPS, they have to pay an additional $9 to CJ.. $9 that could be going into your pocket.

this is why a lot of us make side deals with their big CJ sponsors

stef_girls18 · 12-02-2006, 05:36 AM

some interesting ideas in this thread, but don't think it would work

fabianb · 12-02-2006, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic

well.. WG does have a point, CJ takes between 25-30% of what a merchant pays their affiliate.

so if a merchant wants to pay $27 PPS, they have to pay an additional $9 to CJ.. $9 that could be going into your pocket.

this is why a lot of us make side deals with their big CJ sponsors

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A smart operator would demand from CJ adult sponsors that payouts would be equal as a minimum. Profit margins for adult sponsors are higher then margins for mainstream sponsors.

A real smart operator would look around and find 10-20 adult products that sell well and built them himself and offer through a cj adult network.

Affiliates are lazy, most of them don't even bother to sign up for a new program. Even if an established program opens a new program it's a pain in the butt for operators to get affiliates to signup. One CJ adult platform would solve that problem..

I can't see the advantage of having to track 3 accounts on 3 programs (owned by the same person/company) if I want to sell dating / adult and vod traffic.

fabianb · 12-02-2006, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

Ccbill is mostly rev. share based.
Paycom is mostly PPS based.

Anyone with high volume traffic hedges. x% to rev share, y% to pps, not one smart person would bet all his income on 100% rev share.
(why would I rely on a paysite operator to maintain it's retention?)

Merging an account doesn't mean that you actively can manage links or allow an affiliate to default traffic to e.g. paycom as primairy and ccbill as secondairy.
E.g. I know that from a certain traffic pool I happen to have a lot of traffic not originating in the US. I find a nice site that happens to process with CCbill. It would be a total waste for me to send any traffic to that site, while if they would process on paycom I would get 'some' signups with this traffic.
(and visa versa for other traffic).

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12-01-2006, 01:04 AM	#1
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	Commision Junction for Adult Networks? Hey Dudes Are there any Affiliate Network out there like Commision Junction etc? Thankx.

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,487	Dollars.com was the only one I knew of before they folded their operations. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	Any Network still out there then? Any Network still out there then?

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studiocritic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,442	there really isn't anything.. like sarah said, ccbill is closest.. but it's not even close to what CJ offers in reality __________________ 254342256

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VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	xpays.com ?

12-01-2006, 01:24 AM	#5
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	was lookiing for something more cj.com like :-)

12-01-2006, 01:34 AM	#7
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	Woudn't programs be intersted in be able to add themselves to a network like CJ is, to reach more affiliate?

12-01-2006, 01:36 AM	#8
VIPimp Marina WILL have my babies! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,234	Well that is kind of what xpays offers... they have sites from other programs in there as well as their own.

12-01-2006, 01:42 AM	#9
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	Ahh Okey :-) I just thought of something more Publisher/Advertiser like .-)

12-01-2006, 01:44 AM	#10
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,557	this thread is the gayish / faggotish type .-)

12-01-2006, 03:53 AM	#11
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	in a way CCBill is sort of like that with being able to merge accounts

12-01-2006, 05:58 AM	#13
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	East-Coas-t-Bump :-)

12-01-2006, 06:53 AM	#15
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	Would you use it? Would you guys use it if something like that existed? Regards Christoph

12-01-2006, 08:17 AM	#16
studiocritic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,442	heh, affiliates would LOVE the check consolidation. someone who comes out with an adult affiliate network that has cascading processors and all the functionality of CJ is going to make a killing. Christoph: we're extremely well versed in consulting for affiliate networks and what it takes to make them successful.. if this is a project you're interested in pursuing shoot me an icq and let's talk. __________________ 254342256

12-01-2006, 08:49 AM	#17
xxxvertising Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 33	West-Coast West-Coast Bump :-) would like to know what you guys think .-) Cheers Christoph

12-01-2006, 09:03 AM	#19
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,487	I wouldn't want it for the sole reason that I want the highest payout possible. Having the sponsor paying a management fee to an aggregator would hurt my bottom line that I would keep working directly with sponsors to keep the best payouts possible. The cost of a consolidated check isn't worth losing commissions in my opinion. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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Sensual_Sam Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 35	I'd be interested in this information also. __________________ http://www.sensualmart.com - Now in beta testing. Contact [email protected] for more information.

12-01-2006, 10:51 AM	#22
Z Vidi Vici Veni Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,308	Dollars.com was one hell of an idea...damn shame it never happened.

12-02-2006, 04:43 AM	#23
fabianb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 48	j., WG, A CJ network would not lower your payouts, it would increase your payouts. Adult affiliate programs are based on 1998 technology and thinking. A smart adult CJ network would detect your unproductive links and switch to higher production sites/products. Dollars.com concept was good, only downside was that ALL information was open and mayor programs simply don't want to share that info. My 2 cnts. Missed Islandgathering? See you in Panama : panamasummit.com

12-02-2006, 04:57 AM	#25
studiocritic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,442	well.. WG does have a point, CJ takes between 25-30% of what a merchant pays their affiliate. so if a merchant wants to pay $27 PPS, they have to pay an additional $9 to CJ.. $9 that could be going into your pocket. this is why a lot of us make side deals with their big CJ sponsors __________________ 254342256

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