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Old 11-09-2006, 12:34 AM   #1
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:mad Xmatch - Stolen Content - Traffic - Zango

I've been told Xmatch is a website owned by Various Inc (AFF,Cams, etc.) If I am wrong then this does not apply to you.

I was collecting Sponsors who are using Zango and I came across Xmatch. Well A zango ad pops up with Xmatch it in. SO xmatch is targeting xmatch traffic. If xmatch affiliates are sending this traffic then xmatch is poping up their zango page over their affiliates xmatch page, IMO stealing signups from their affiliates. I know others call this "adware collisions" you can call it what you want but that is what I see anyway.

So i am looking on this page and I see stolen Ifriends content. Nice.

SO how do you explain this Lars? Using Zango, poping up xmatch traffic over xmatch affiliates with stolen IFRIENDS content on the page.

Great company you have there. Not to mention everytime I go to check my clickcash stats I get your fucking cams.com page poping up.

Please start explaining.....


.................................................. ........................ opps my hand got in the picture.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:37 AM   #2
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reminds me of a song.....



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Then run the fuck out of it, give it away before it needs major service, inflate the value for taxes .... etc ... was that the song?
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http://xmatch.com/go/page/gallery_la...m_xmatchnt1166

It's still there it just rotates position on the page. Everytime i have clicked the page the last couple hours I have seen it everytime. I wonder how many people have signed up to xmatch because of that picture. I wonder how much her stolen image has generated in income for xmatch.

I contacted the girl who the picture is of. She made a lot for me for TeamClickCash so I am waiting for her to let me know if that was one of my exclusive pictures or one of ifriend's pictures, either way the shit definetly doesn't belong to xmatch and they should not be profiting from it.
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Click the link: http://xmatch.com/go/page/gallery_la...m_xmatchnt1166

I would like to have everyone confirm they see the same girl in my screen shot when they go to that link above.

Please post here. THanks.
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never mind I just recored it, so now no one can say I photo shoped that page.
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Yep, that is a picture I took for Will76, and it looks by the crop of it that was directly taken from a certain site of his. So xmatch, take it DOWN. See, all you other webmasters, it is reasons like this that I am making everyone take down my shit, because Will was the only one to ever send me traffic, and the rest of you just jerked me around for the most part, or flat out stole my stuff. Lots of hot girls on the net, go find a hotter one and pay or at LEAST ask for her stuff. I am so fucking thru with all of this. Everyone who has an image or video of me take it down, or I seriously am going to get some legal counsel. I have a proprietary right not to have my picture used without my consent, and when you are advertising sex, you better be even more careful, with your geo targeting etc. It gets really dangerous if someone from my city sees a site like that, and mistakenly thinks I am looking for action. I use Ifriends and NO other camsites because they have BLOCK ZONES.
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Yep, that is a picture I took for Will76, and it looks by the crop of it that was directly taken from a certain site of his. So xmatch, take it DOWN. See, all you other webmasters, it is reasons like this that I am making everyone take down my shit, because Will was the only one to ever send me traffic, and the rest of you just jerked me around for the most part, or flat out stole my stuff. Lots of hot girls on the net, go find a hotter one and pay or at LEAST ask for her stuff. I am so fucking thru with all of this. Everyone who has an image or video of me take it down, or I seriously am going to get some legal counsel. I have a proprietary right not to have my picture used without my consent, and when you are advertising sex, you better be even more careful, with your geo targeting etc. It gets really dangerous if someone from my city sees a site like that, and mistakenly thinks I am looking for action. I use Ifriends and NO other camsites because they have BLOCK ZONES.

I can't stand people who steal content. How hard is it to go buy content, content is not expensive at all. There are a lot of people, who steal content from ifriends and use it for other sponsors. If your sponsor doesn't have good content then use someone else or buy your own.

I've seen a lot of my design work and exclusive content I own, etc... straight up stolen. Lazy fuckers.

I couldn't remember if this was one of the images that was exclusive for teamclickcash. Now my content, is being used not only without my permission or Cassie's but even worse it is being used in conjunction with zango.


Way to go Xmatch, aka Various Inc.

Lar's I am going to bump this thread until you or your attornies explain to me how this happend and when the stolen content will be removed.
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Will, for someone who promotes cam sites, you are remarkably ignorant about dating sites and even geo-targetting.

People continuously post profiles to all dating sites using pics of porn stars, celebrities, their hot sister-in-law etc etc and yes even camgirls claiming that is them.

Likewise all dating sites continuously remove such fake profiles as they come across them or are notified about them.

From my experience a small percentage of people do this to get more interest as their real picture might not be quite so "presentable". However this only works up until the "meet face to face" stage of course.

The vast majority of these profiles with stolen pics are affiliates, some of them dating site affiliates who hope to get paid for fake profiles, but many of them from Clickcash, even the chathosts themselves, who are using the dating site to steal traffic to send it to Ifriends.

Just last week I saw a Dating Gold profile with a url in the profile. It went to a Clickcash account that had since been termed.

But don't let facts get in the way of of your zango witch hunt so anyway bla bla zango zango bla bla catchy headlines carry on
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Will, for someone who promotes cam sites, you are remarkably ignorant about dating sites and even geo-targetting.

People continuously post profiles to all dating sites using pics of porn stars, celebrities, their hot sister-in-law etc etc and yes even camgirls claiming that is them.

Likewise all dating sites continuously remove such fake profiles as they come across them or are notified about them.

From my experience a small percentage of people do this to get more interest as their real picture might not be quite so "presentable". However this only works up until the "meet face to face" stage of course.

The vast majority of these profiles with stolen pics are affiliates, some of them dating site affiliates who hope to get paid for fake profiles, but many of them from Clickcash, even the chathosts themselves, who are using the dating site to steal traffic to send it to Ifriends.

Just last week I saw a Dating Gold profile with a url in the profile. It went to a Clickcash account that had since been termed.

But don't let facts get in the way of of your zango witch hunt so anyway bla bla zango zango bla bla catchy headlines carry on

How am i ignorant of how geotargeting works. I understand some people make fake profiles on dating sites, which is why I gave Lar's the oppertunity to take it down and to explain it. This is not a case of the chathost making the post, that is obvious from her post here. If it was someone advertising another program I would sure like to see which program it was. All I can see from that page is the image and some bullshit information. How do I know that image is being pulled from a user submitted profile ? I don't see the profile I see just a page with a bunch of pictures on that is the same girls every time. How do i know that whole page was not created just for advertising purposes and there are no profiles for those girls. I am sure Lars can clear this up and show me the profile that goes with that image, a ip and time and date of the person who created the profile.

I guess you are also ignorant to the second half of my post which was xmatch targeting xmatch traffic.

Keep trying to take your pot shots at me with your "ignorant " comments to try to soften the blows for your buddies at AFF. You can say a millions times that you are not biased but you posts don't lie, people can see right through your bullshit. I still have no idea where you are even attempting to say I don't understand how geotargeting works.
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Ozman, that is the weakest bullshit excuse in the world. It's okay to have stolen content on your site because other people do it.

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But don't let facts get in the way

just like the fact that you are a shill for AFF. Tell your buddy Lars, cause I know you are talking to him, that if he does not take down the picture, and respond to this I will be posting about this on more then just GFY.
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Ozman, that is the weakest bullshit excuse in the world. It's okay to have stolen content on your site because other people do it.

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I guess you are just ignorant too. We are all ignorant.


zango blah blah blah, nothing to see here, just ignorant people attacking innocent Lars because we are ignorant and bored and have nothing better to do.
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Ozman, that is the weakest bullshit excuse in the world. It's okay to have stolen content on your site because other people do it.

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That seems to be the motto of AFF, it is ok to use Zango because other people do it to.
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if that's your content being used without your express, written consent then why are you waiting for the other team to reply? why aren't you in touch with your own counsel getting your ducks in a row?

and for the person who said using stolen content is ok because others do it - just don't speak anymore.

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Yep, that is a picture I took for Will76, and it looks by the crop of it that was directly taken from a certain site of his. So xmatch, take it DOWN. See, all you other webmasters, it is reasons like this that I am making everyone take down my shit, because Will was the only one to ever send me traffic, and the rest of you just jerked me around for the most part, or flat out stole my stuff. Lots of hot girls on the net, go find a hotter one and pay or at LEAST ask for her stuff. I am so fucking thru with all of this. Everyone who has an image or video of me take it down, or I seriously am going to get some legal counsel. I have a proprietary right not to have my picture used without my consent, and when you are advertising sex, you better be even more careful, with your geo targeting etc. It gets really dangerous if someone from my city sees a site like that, and mistakenly thinks I am looking for action. I use Ifriends and NO other camsites because they have BLOCK ZONES.
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When did I say it's ok to make a dating profile with someone else's pic or to use someone else's content without permission in any other situation???

What I was getting at is that the practice is common knowledge even among those who don't promote dating sites and not exactly thread worthy unless you are running out of ideas for Zango threads.

Affiliates use stolen pics every day and likewise Sponsors cancel affiliates every day once it has been brought to their attention. Just like iFriends did with the guy promoting iFriends thru' a Dating Gold profile and just like AFF will most likely do with this one when they get proof.

Will, the reason I was saying you weren't too bright on geo stuff is because you posted a geo url for people to look at a profile that was among results for New Orleans. Not everyone lives in New Orleans and therefore wouldn't see the pic you were talking about.

As regards me and AFF being good buddies, I've met Lars and Andrew at Internext very briefly and I'm sure neither of them would remember me from a bar of soap but think what you like.

Zango aside I support AFF generally because of the same reasons you support Clickcash, namely they've been good to me. Neither sponsors are perfect. I also feel free to critisize them when I can see they need to improve something like I have done on many occasions with AFF when their stats were down, pages loading slow, rss feeds or videos sucked or whatever.

Talking about Zango specifically, as I have said repeatedly, I don't think going after one sponsor is the best way to solve the Zango problem but you are free to do that and I'm free to disagree correct?

If you had made more SexSearch threads than AFF threads, I would more than likely be saying the same things and you would be caling me a SexSearch shill and I have sent them maybe a thousand uniques total ever so makes no difference.

Here's some ideas for more National Enquirer style thread titles for ya as you are obviously running out of ideas to keep Zango as flavor of the month.

AFF AND ZANGO CAUSES AIDS
AFF AND ZANGO CAUSES CANCER
AFF AND ZANGO MADE THE U.S. INVADE IRAQ
AFF AND ZANGO INVENTED BIRD FLU
AFF AND ZANGO DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR K-FED BRITNEY DIVORCE

Wait ..scratch that first one. AFF probably does contribute to the AIDS epidemic by encouraging people to meet up for sex.
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Zango aside I support AFF generally because of the same reasons you support Clickcash, namely they've been good to me.
Very surpised to see you say that ozman .
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Old 11-09-2006, 03:02 PM   #39
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When did I say it's ok to make a dating profile with someone else's pic or to use someone else's content without permission in any other situation???

What I was getting at is that the practice is common knowledge even among those who don't promote dating sites and not exactly thread worthy unless you are running out of ideas for Zango threads.
Which means the "common practice" argument isn't valid or useful in the first place, so using it in a debate just adds filler and infers that you're using it to justify the practice.

So just stop using it.
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The profiles you have pointed out have been sent to our abuse team for review. If you'd like to contact them directly you can click on the abuse link at the bottom of every profile or you can e-mail [email protected].

We take content theft seriously and will terminate any account in violation when notified.
No comment on the xmatch zango ad targeting xmatch traffic ?
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The profiles you have pointed out have been sent to our abuse team for review. If you'd like to contact them directly you can click on the abuse link at the bottom of every profile or you can e-mail [email protected].

We take content theft seriously and will terminate any account in violation when notified.
as long as they are not a major affiliate... LOL.... fuck off sagi.....
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The profiles you have pointed out have been sent to our abuse team for review. If you'd like to contact them directly you can click on the abuse link at the bottom of every profile or you can e-mail [email protected].

We take content theft seriously and will terminate any account in violation when notified.
um...hey, dumbass

that wasn't the main point of the thread

nice avoidance though
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No comment on the xmatch zango ad targeting xmatch traffic ?
lol did you actually think there would be?
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When did I say it's ok to make a dating profile with someone else's pic or to use someone else's content without permission in any other situation???
I never said that you said it was ok to make profile with other people's content. Comment to the other posters who said that. Apparently you were trying to tell me that only ignorant people doesn't know that AFF has fake profiles on it. SO they don't steal the content, they just have a site full of fake shit, that is what you were saying right ?

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What I was getting at is that the practice is common knowledge even among those who don't promote dating sites and not exactly thread worthy unless you are running out of ideas for Zango threads.
Not even looking at the stolen content, It is not thread worthy to point out where xmatch is stealing traffic from xmatch affiliates ? Lars and Sagi said they don't do this. Here you see clear as day, xmatch is targeting xmatch traffic. You are right, on GFY, this is not thread worthy, i guess the other 95% of the post about someone's post count and who you hit it, guess what i did last night... are post worthy? This is not post worthy in your opinion because you are a shill for AFF.


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Will, the reason I was saying you weren't too bright on geo stuff is because you posted a geo url for people to look at a profile that was among results for New Orleans. Not everyone lives in New Orleans and therefore wouldn't see the pic you were talking about..
LOL apparently I know more about geotargeting then you. In 95% of the time that geotargeting is used it is the same pictures for everyone but just the city that changes. man you are a dumb ass. Was i suspose to believe that by chance, the person who stole this picture just so happened to use a town that was 90 miles away from me ? I think it is more likely that AFF was using the same landing page for everyone, and just changing the city to make it look like the girls where from their city. After all the profiles are fake right, so not like the person is ever going to find out her location was not true.


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Talking about Zango specifically, as I have said repeatedly, I don't think going after one sponsor is the best way to solve the Zango problem but you are free to do that and I'm free to disagree correct?
If you had made more SexSearch threads than AFF threads, I would more than likely be saying the same things and you would be caling me a SexSearch shill and I have sent them maybe a thousand uniques total ever so makes no difference.
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Bullshit, you already said the reason you are supporting them was because they were good to you. So which is it, do you just want to support the sponsor that I put too much heat on or do you want to support the sponsor I put heat on that has been good to you. Get your stories straight. LOL you would be supporting sexsearch too if I gave them more threads then AFF, what are you the chairman of the equal enforcement of heat against sponsors who get bashed for using Zango. You jump people's shit because they bash one sponsor more then the next one LOL and you call me ignorant, I would be proving you right if I actually bought your shit.

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Here's some ideas for more National Enquirer style thread titles for ya as you are obviously running out of ideas to keep Zango as flavor of the month.

AFF AND ZANGO CAUSES AIDS
AFF AND ZANGO CAUSES CANCER
AFF AND ZANGO MADE THE U.S. INVADE IRAQ
AFF AND ZANGO INVENTED BIRD FLU
AFF AND ZANGO DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR K-FED BRITNEY DIVORCE

Wait ..scratch that first one. AFF probably does contribute to the AIDS epidemic by encouraging people to meet up for sex.
This is what we call spin boys and girls. You try to difuse the situation by exagerating and mocking the poster. You can call me ignorant and you can say my thread is not post worthy, but you can't deny my post is 100% correct. So you can try through out stupid shit like zango causes aids as a comparison of what I am posting. If you want to be such a smart, no biased guy then instead of insulting me, debate the facts of what I posted.

xmatch is targeting xmatch traffic by using zango, which steals signups from their affiliates.
xmatch has stolen ifriends content on their site.

Is that not correct ? nice try. tell your buddy lars he needs to send smarter trolls next time.
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Which means the "common practice" argument isn't valid or useful in the first place, so using it in a debate just adds filler and infers that you're using it to justify the practice.

So just stop using it.
exaclty, OZ knows that what AFF is doing is wrong.

He can't debate me on the facts, which are in the title of this thread...
- xmatch was targeting xmatch traffic by using zango, making it impossible for there not to be "adware collusions" AKA stealing.
- xmatch has stolen content on their site.

Since he knows this is true and he has no argument his whole defense is to belittle and mock me and try to down play the whole situation " oh this whole thread is not post worthy " LOL On GFY this is not post worthy LOL. " you are ignorant, you don't know how geotargeting works and that there are fake profiles on these site" So what does that have to do about the fact there was stolen content on there regardless and that xmatch was targeting xmatch. " i would defend any sponsor you post about more then the others" LOL suuuurrre you would. " Why don't you post zango causes aids".... You too much OZ.

OZman, the chairman of the equal enforcement of heat against sponsors who get bashed for using Zango too much by Will76. Nice job title you gave yourself there. I look forward to you defending sex search when I give them 3 more post then AFF tomorrow
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Will, If you didn't mention the stolen content part this would be yet another AFF uses Zango thread. You added the "stolen" part like it was something unusual for dating sites and implying that AFF stole the pic and made the profile themselves rather than someone simply uploading it.

Isn't the fact that AFF uses Zango old news now? Why don't you bump some of your old threads?

Hence my sarcasm on your future thread titles...
"AFF uses Zango but you already knew that so they umm probably do this and that as well"

Is removing stolen content from the Net going to be your new crusade when you have gotten rid of adware? I wish you luck. You are going to need to make a lot more threads in that case.

Oh on the geo targetting, it was my understanding that most dating sites that use model pics do indeed rotate the location but on user submitted pics like this one they would keep the city the same as it was entered, I could well be wrong on that though but I refreshed that page several times and didn't see the pic in question.

I look forward to your SexSearch threads tomorrow.
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Will, If you didn't mention the stolen content part this would be yet another AFF uses Zango thread. You added the "stolen" part like it was something unusual for dating sites and implying that AFF stole the pic and made the profile themselves rather than someone simply uploading it.

Isn't the fact that AFF uses Zango old news now? Why don't you bump some of your old threads?
Wrong again. This is not just another " AFF using Zango thread". Sagi and Lars repeatedly said they do not target the same site with zango ads. You know the AFF traffic pops up a Cams.com page and vice versa, so it makes it ok bullshit they told us. So this was an instance showing one of their sites targeting the same site, something they specifically said they were not doing. So this is a lot different then just another zango thread but I didn't expect you to see that.


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Is removing stolen content from the Net going to be your new crusade when you have gotten rid of adware? I wish you luck. You are going to need to make a lot more threads in that case.
Is stupidity going to be your new crusade that and attacking all of my Zango + AFF threads. How can you be so stupid to make a comment like that. I make one post about stolen content, ONE POST EVER ON GFY about content that was made exclusivly for me and was stolen, and you ask the question if my next crusade is going to be removing stolen content??? Man you are reaching, and you just making yourself look more and more like a fool everytime you say assine things like that.

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Oh on the geo targetting, it was my understanding that most dating sites that use model pics do indeed rotate the location but on user submitted pics like this one they would keep the city the same as it was entered, I could well be wrong on that though but I refreshed that page several times and didn't see the pic in question.
I am sure some dating sites do it that way and I am sure some don't, out side of dating site i think no one uses geotargeting that way. I found it more then coincidental that the content that was stolen from me was entered into their site using a city that was close to me, what are the chances of that happening. It is also a landing page. For all I know that was bought content AFF owned (other then my stolen image) and that was a standard advertising page they used for their "landing page". It wasn't like I did a search on their site and got that image. So with all that taking into consideration, I don't think I was being ignorant about how geotargeting works. Little comments like that from you destroy any point that you are attempting to make, it just makes it blatantly obvious why you are posting and what you are trying to accomplish with your posts.

Which you still can not deny that what I am saying is not true, xmatch was targeting xmatch traffic, i found stolen content on their site. You can however continue to downplay this as no big deal but I think only you and AFF supporters see it that way.
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bump for a good thread
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