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amateurcanada · 11-15-2006, 11:22 AM

www.globill-systems.com - for those of you who know, they know hahaahahaah

amateurcanada · 11-15-2006, 11:24 AM

www.globill-systems.com remember? lol

we can always take a drive to montreal and find 'em ;) the shadows of fake corporations abroad do not protect people anymore ;)

Miura · 11-15-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Check with your contract before you do this. Visa might just ban you for it.

https://www.paymonde.com/Purchase.php this page works. It's the page to pay in money.

Not anymore it doesn't. Somebody is monitor the board and killing all the accesses instantly.

amateurcanada · 11-15-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

100 checks never received

www.globill-systems.com remember? lol

we can always take a drive to montreal and find 'em ;) the shadows of fake corporations abroad do not protect people anymore ;)

2MuchMark · 11-15-2006, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

mark,

i think a lot of people would be a lot more willing to patiently wait what happens if howard or norton would have made any kind of public statement.

but: they do not reply to icq, they do not reply to emails, they do not reply to all those threads on the boards. and this is in my opinion the worst of everything. and as i said earlier: Norton even erased his profile on adultwhoswho - don't tell that's something people do who have the honest will to pay their customers.

just fyi: they destroyed my contentshop - since i use their database and their shopping cart. not a smart decision by me, i know now, but why we did that is another story

so: they either pay me - or i spend my evenings with sticking needles in vodoo dolls with their faces glued on

Hi Mat,

I agree. They SHOULD be making some kind of statement. I am really surprised that they have not done so yet.

It's too bad. I hope they get their problems worked out soon. It would be a shame if Paymonde's reputation went the way of iBill's.

Cheers!

Mark Prince

2MuchMark · 11-15-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

mark,

i think a lot of people would be a lot more willing to patiently wait what happens if howard or norton would have made any kind of public statement.

but: they do not reply to icq, they do not reply to emails, they do not reply to all those threads on the boards. and this is in my opinion the worst of everything. and as i said earlier: Norton even erased his profile on adultwhoswho - don't tell that's something people do who have the honest will to pay their customers.

just fyi: they destroyed my contentshop - since i use their database and their shopping cart. not a smart decision by me, i know now, but why we did that is another story

so: they either pay me - or i spend my evenings with sticking needles in vodoo dolls with their faces glued on

Hi Mat,

I agree. They SHOULD be making some kind of statement. I am really surprised that they have not done so yet.

It's too bad. I hope they get their problems worked out soon. It would be a shame if Paymonde's reputation went the way of iBill's.

Cheers!

Mark Prince

2MuchMark · 11-15-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RFremont

That's quite lovely and touching, except there is one BIG problem. When the principals of the company stop replying to emails, ICQ's and do not come forward to address the situation in an upfront, honest and transparent way, then there is nothing you are going to say that matters. Paymonde can have the time to 'fix whatever has gone wrong' AFTER they address the situation publicly and allay everyone's concerns who's livelihood depends on these funds.

Btw, maybe your bullshit post convinces some of the people on here but there are experienced webmasters on here that see right through it. For you to insinuate that because Howard and Norton bought me a drink at a show, then that means they would never rip me off and I should blindly trust them while all their actions show otherwise, insults my intelligence. 'Partying with the Paymonde crew' doesn't automatically give them a free pass to critisizm and scrutiny when try to rip me off and ignore my emails. So do me a favor, shut the fuck up because you sound like a typical lying scumbag. I'd love to know your association with them.

Wow! Um that's a great reply. All I am doing is posting my opinion on people that I have met in person, and you call me a "typical Lying Scumbag". That's priceless.

Look, whoever you are, It's too bad that you lost money with Paymonde but that kind of post and personal attack against me is uncalled for. Remind me to not buy you a drink at Internext this January.

To everyone else, Cheers!

Mark Prince

RFremont · 11-15-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

Wow! Um that's a great reply. All I am doing is posting my opinion on people that I have met in person, and you call me a "typical Lying Scumbag". That's priceless.

Look, whoever you are, It's too bad that you lost money with Paymonde but that kind of post and personal attack against me is uncalled for. Remind me to not buy you a drink at Internext this January.

To everyone else, Cheers!

Mark Prince

Oh, you met the Paymonde guys in person??? Why didn't you say so?? I mean, here we are weeks behind getting paid on our hard earned money, with not even a courtesy email or announcement on WHEN we will receive our money, all of which is tantamount to larceny and embezzlement.... but Mark Prince met them at a show and says Paymonde are swell guys!! Well geez, why didn't you say so before? I feel SOOO much better now, Im sure my money is safe and on it's way!

Personal attacks against you is not uncalled for because you are defending those that are lying, cheating and stealing webmaster's hard-earned money, including mine. A lot of these people depend on these funds for their livelihood. You want to paint over it with "that's too bad you lost money but I met the paymonde guys', you're mistaken. What they are doing is criminal until every single cent they owe is paid.

In light of this, I think my original post was actually too kind. Now again, unless you are part of the solution for everyone receiving their money then shut the fuck up and get out of the thread. The company in your sig is added to my list of those I will never work with.

Paul Markham · 11-15-2006, 01:56 PM

Anyone thinking about advising or even mentioning the word charge back or cutting off members who have paid best read the contract with Paymonde.

You might find you're in violation and the charge backs might come home to roost with you.

Just be cautious.

I met the guys at Paymonde a few times and common sense tells me that they did not choose this route. They would make more money keeping the company running than they would of by closing it.

Barefootsies · 11-15-2006, 02:22 PM

Well I did not want to cut off memberships. Mainly for customer service, and access issues, plus the flood of e-mail.

I advised my members they will have access through the month of November. After that, their memberships will have expired, the PayMonde script will be removed, and should they see anything (rebill) after that, to contact their bank.

Hence, no issue of any kind.

mistermee · 11-15-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Anyone thinking about advising or even mentioning the word charge back or cutting off members who have paid best read the contract with Paymonde.

You might find you're in violation and the charge backs might come home to roost with you.

Just be cautious.

I met the guys at Paymonde a few times and common sense tells me that they did not choose this route. They would make more money keeping the company running than they would of by closing it.

Another stalwart defender of the benighted Nort and Howie of unblessed memory. It is past (way past) unconscionable to rise to the defense of these pernicious thugs, particularly on the basis of having met them "a few times" in a social setting.

Unfortunately, some of us had the misfortune of doing business (or what passed as business) with them and are today much worse for wear. Common sense tells me that -- UNLESS one were actively involved in a fraud or deception of some kind -- one would take a few moments to communicate with one's clients, especially when there are large amounts of money held in trust hanging in the balance.

I think I need to repeat again that magic word: TRUST. We trusted Paymonde to do its job, that is, to process our customer's credit cards, collect our money and disperse it to us on a regular and timely basis. We trusted that they would communicate to us on the same regular and timely basis, particularly if there were problems.

Needless to say, our trust was misplaced. Nort and Howie, otherwise known as the DISGUSTING SCUMBAGS, betrayed our trust and violated decent business practice known to man.

The very idea that we may possibly be violating our "contracts" with Paymonde (which, as the estimable Webby has suggested, may be invalid since the legality of the mysterious entity "Paymonde" is in question) is hardly of moment in my humble opinion. I, for one, am not going to stand by idly as these larcenous losers continue to rebill my customers and purloin more money from my account.

I can only say SHAME SHAME SHAME -- shame on anyone who would defend these loathesome sleazebags in a forum filled with people who have lost thousands and tens of thousands of dollars hard-earned and fairly.

sdgnetsites · 11-15-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Anyone thinking about advising or even mentioning the word charge back or cutting off members who have paid best read the contract with Paymonde.

You might find you're in violation and the charge backs might come home to roost with you.

Just be cautious.

I met the guys at Paymonde a few times and common sense tells me that they did not choose this route. They would make more money keeping the company running than they would of by closing it.

Hey Paul, sorry to see you in this muck.
What's the short version of the statement in the contract that says I have to carry their clients who haven't paid me a dime?

Miura · 11-15-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Anyone thinking about advising or even mentioning the word charge back or cutting off members who have paid best read the contract with Paymonde.

You might find you're in violation and the charge backs might come home to roost with you.

Just be cautious.

I met the guys at Paymonde a few times and common sense tells me that they did not choose this route. They would make more money keeping the company running than they would of by closing it.

Would agree with you if there was a way to get members cancelled/refunded.
its not the case. They are still rebilling them and took away our control over our own clients so who's in violation here?

Paul Markham · 11-15-2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdgnetsites

Hey Paul, sorry to see you in this muck.
What's the short version of the statement in the contract that says I have to carry their clients who haven't paid me a dime?

I need to read the contract to verify it, but I was told by a processor that Visa insist on this type of statement in the contracts.

It makes sense as well that they would put it in. Just read your contract first before you do anything hasty.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18162

Seems Paymonde are not sitting in the Bahamas.

But why was the page still up when they were not running as a business.

We had moved them down the pecking order a long time ago and all that we lose is our reserve, can't even see what it is.

Selene · 11-16-2006, 01:58 AM

'While the Paymonde website is down, Cohen said the company will allow clients into their backend to check on their financial status if they contact him by email.'

Anybody know his e-mail???

Tryme · 11-16-2006, 02:17 AM

the xbiz article sounds like complete bs

Johny Traffic · 11-16-2006, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Anyone thinking about advising or even mentioning the word charge back or cutting off members who have paid best read the contract with Paymonde.

You might find you're in violation and the charge backs might come home to roost with you.

Just be cautious.

Not only are you doing what Paul is saying. You are also showing 1000's of your past and existing customers how they can get free access to your and everyone elses sites

sdgnetsites · 11-16-2006, 02:36 AM

I'm missing something here. They lost mastercard, what about the money from visa?
"We never hid from anybody."-shutting down their site, dumping their profiles, icqs and apparently spying on boards but not posting sure seems
a lot like hiding, but wadda I know.

lawked · 11-16-2006, 03:20 AM

I wonder how much money was frozen... I'm sure they want to paint the picture that all monies were frozen and that they received 0 dollars.

I'm not bashing anyone... Just after reading the xbiz article... I think this guy needs to come to the table with the facts so then we can all make an informed decision.

My guess would be they had some lagtime in the receive money->pay to affiliates. I'm sure they have a good chunk of money that is not frozen.

Correct me if I'm wrong Paymonde.

Paul Markham · 11-16-2006, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Not only are you doing what Paul is saying. You are also showing 1000's of your past and existing customers how they can get free access to your and everyone elses sites

I think a lot of those making the "Charge Back" comments are not thinking beyond this morning. It could come back to hit them.

boldy · 11-16-2006, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think a lot of those making the "Charge Back" comments are not thinking beyond this morning. It could come back to hit them.

I agree. Norton, Howard and his crew are good people. I highly doubt it that they did this on purpose.

All the best to Paymonde.

Miura · 11-16-2006, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think a lot of those making the "Charge Back" comments are not thinking beyond this morning. It could come back to hit them.

I agree 100%. It'll only come out of their reserves. reserves that nobody can touch right now, not even Howard or Norton.

IrieMax · 11-16-2006, 08:00 AM

This is so sad!!

We are using Paymonde as well, actually we were using them!
I know them personaly from the shows and they are great guys

I hope everything will work out soon!

All the BEST to Paymonde!

PH-GNXS · 11-16-2006, 10:33 AM

Hopefully The heads of Paymonde will come out of panic mode and discuss this like true business minded people. I know what it is like to lose 1st party business merchant account and land on the TML. the reserve can forfetted due to chargebacks thus they will not get a dime of the reserves if the chargeback scenario is played out.

My question is why did paymonde hit all my rebills before closing it's doors.
I am tempted to do the chargeback scenario due to this fraudulent act as i figure you purposely ripped off my customers. I also Plan to push this along to the authorities even if it hurts me as one of the leader in the adult celebrity niche. I want my money thats over 20k i can prove you committed several felonies over 100 counts.

my email is [email protected] contact me howard please
I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO GO THIS ROUTE.

payout · 11-16-2006, 08:40 PM

its better if they can solve this issue this way around.

PH-GNXS · 11-17-2006, 12:33 PM

seems they took the site back down

PhounTho · 11-17-2006, 03:00 PM

Hey y'all. I don't recommend doing chargebacks b/c it could come back to haunt your business in the future.

Here's what I did, and what I would recommend to you. Get a cup of coffee, go into your admin area and cancel all your rebills by hand.

Oh, yeah, here's the backdoor link to manage your account:
http://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_i...hp?error=login

Best of luck.

I got this week's payout today. Anyone else?

Selene · 11-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhounTho

Hey y'all. I don't recommend doing chargebacks b/c it could come back to haunt your business in the future.

Here's what I did, and what I would recommend to you. Get a cup of coffee, go into your admin area and cancel all your rebills by hand.

Oh, yeah, here's the backdoor link to manage your account:

Best of luck.

I got this week's payout today. Anyone else?

Very strange but it wrote me
'Either your username or password is incorrect.'

RegUser · 11-17-2006, 04:47 PM

bull crap
the back door does not work
chargebacks n reversal is the way to go
these guys they are too smart but the long arm of law is about to catch them

RegUser · 11-17-2006, 04:51 PM

for starters I am emailing every single of my clients and informing them that as I am unable to contact billing processor, the integrity and security of their credit card may be compromized and they may want to call their respective credit card companies and initiate a reversal right away

HighSociety · 11-17-2006, 05:16 PM

bullshit, why didn't they e-mail us and tell us something? They wonder why they get bashed. They keep telling me everyday that I will get paid and nothing happens, and we should just not worry about it and go about our day like nothing is wrong? That alone says it all,

RegUser · 11-17-2006, 06:22 PM

of course it is a big and clear cut fraud.
they did not send any payouts, kicked us out of merchant account control panels and have kept on rebilling the users

RFremont · 11-17-2006, 06:46 PM

Anyone in this thread or otherwise that is defending these lowlife bottomfeeders should be regarded as the same. What is happening here is nothing short of criminal until every single cent is paid to the rightful parties.

PhounTho · 11-18-2006, 01:01 AM

The back door works for me, is EVERYONE else having problems getting in or just some? I mean, why would I just make this up and bother posting?

I should mention that I'm a sponsor and not an affiliate. Perhaps that has something to do with it. Dunno.

sdgnetsites · 11-18-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhounTho

The back door works for me, is EVERYONE else having problems getting in or just some? I mean, why would I just make this up and bother posting?

I should mention that I'm a sponsor and not an affiliate. Perhaps that has something to do with it. Dunno.

I received the same error message, no e-mails from them and certainly no payout.

PhounTho · 11-19-2006, 12:49 AM

Hmmm, that's weird. OK, perhaps it's because I emailed Howard and he gave me that link and in the process he also "activated" my account at the same time, again, dunno.

So, I recommend sending him an email: [email protected] and asking about admin access, etc. At least it worked for me.

Best of luck.

Barefootsies · 11-19-2006, 06:30 AM

e-mail sent.

We'll test your theory.

kscans · 11-19-2006, 11:15 AM

hi guys,

some thoughts about this situation at paymonde.
I think the biggest loss is our rebill clients and of course the amount over 20k what paymonde owes us now.

that was simple not fair from paymonde to turn off our admin area.

We didnt even had the possibility to cancel all our clients there and move them over for example to ccbill.

If we send right now an email to all paymonde clients how can we explain them how and where they are able to cabcel their memberships?All of them will ask if their memberships was cancelled before they would sign up at a new processor for our sites again.

Do you have any suggestions how we could handle this for our existing and rebill paymonde clients?

For your help thx in advance.

kind regards

www.Kscash.biz

WebDork · 11-19-2006, 06:34 PM

Anyone have sample message they send to their clients. I wish of course to cancel access and recommend they resign up - but feel sorry for the users as well who lose their $$$...

Barefootsies · 11-19-2006, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebDork

Anyone have sample message they send to their clients. I wish of course to cancel access and recommend they resign up - but feel sorry for the users as well who lose their $$$...

Yes.

PhounTho · 11-19-2006, 08:05 PM

No one seems to be chiming in with any success at the link I posted. Are the people who are having problems with the link affiliates or sponsors? It's worth mentioning that this link will NOT work for AFFILIATES, it is a MERCHANT ONLY link. I'm going to assume that all who tried this link were originally smart enough to figure that out, but ya never know.

Barefootsies, keep us posted on your email, at 5,434 posts what's one more?

Barefootsies · 11-19-2006, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhounTho

No one seems to be chiming in with any success at the link I posted. Are the people who are having problems with the link affiliates or sponsors? It's worth mentioning that this link will NOT work for AFFILIATES, it is a MERCHANT ONLY link. I'm going to assume that all who tried this link were originally smart enough to figure that out, but ya never know.

Barefootsies, keep us posted on your email, at 5,434 posts what's one more?

Will do sire. However I expect it to go the same as all of the phone calls, trouble tickets, and e-mails before. If I get a response, or payment, I'll definately post an update.

WebDork · 11-19-2006, 08:41 PM

Merchant link did not work for me. Said username and password were wrong. I used the email form to send pass but that didnt work either...

Calico Jack · 11-19-2006, 09:50 PM

It'll be interesting to see what if anything happens. Keep me posted Barefootsies on any developements!

kscans · 11-20-2006, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebDork

Merchant link did not work for me. Said username and password were wrong. I used the email form to send pass but that didnt work either...

we have the same trouble with the admin page

No luck to get in with our paymonde ID and pws.

that sucks.

We still didnt get any answer from [email protected] since 2 weeks.

Wrote to the owner Howard also,no luck .

Thats why the article what was published seems to be bullshit

I think a reliable future support would have been very important for them to keep the merchants somehow satisfied for a bit.

Seems thats not their business policy!

Kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

Barefootsies · 11-20-2006, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kscans

we have the same trouble with the admin page

No luck to get in with our paymonde ID and pws.

that sucks.

We still didnt get any answer from [email protected] since 2 weeks.

Wrote to the owner Howard also,no luck .

Thats why the article what was published seems to be bullshit

I think a reliable future support would have been very important for them to keep the merchants somehow satisfied for a bit.

Seems thats not their business policy!

Kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

Correct. Same here.

kscans · 11-20-2006, 12:18 PM

Hi,

Howard has answered my email and the login page working fine right now for our account.

https://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_...error=userpass

kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

PhounTho · 11-20-2006, 12:37 PM

OK, I'm helping the guys over at pamporn compile a list of merchants who need to get money back. Send an email to [email protected] with your name and how much money you're owed approximately. We need to take action quickly. I've already talked to investigators and they said we need to get more people together to make it worth while. The sooner we act, the great our chances of seeing our money. For what it's worth, Howard is still in Montreal and has family there, so it's going to be hard for him to disappear. The funds just get harder and harder to recover as time goes on b/c the money will start disappearing.

PhounTho · 11-20-2006, 12:44 PM

Let me add that [email protected] has a spam preventing software, so you'll get a reply that you need to confirm, and chances are this will go to your bulk folder, so look out for that.

Miura · 11-20-2006, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhounTho

OK, I'm helping the guys over at pamporn compile a list of merchants who need to get money back. Send an email to [email protected] with your name and how much money you're owed approximately. We need to take action quickly. I've already talked to investigators and they said we need to get more people together to make it worth while. The sooner we act, the great our chances of seeing our money. For what it's worth, Howard is still in Montreal and has family there, so it's going to be hard for him to disappear. The funds just get harder and harder to recover as time goes on b/c the money will start disappearing.

Thanks for helping me out PhounTho!

11-15-2006, 11:22 AM	#151
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11-15-2006, 11:24 AM	#152
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11-15-2006, 01:56 PM	#159
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11-15-2006, 02:22 PM	#160
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Well I did not want to cut off memberships. Mainly for customer service, and access issues, plus the flood of e-mail. I advised my members they will have access through the month of November. After that, their memberships will have expired, the PayMonde script will be removed, and should they see anything (rebill) after that, to contact their bank. Hence, no issue of any kind. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?" Last edited by Barefootsies; 11-15-2006 at 02:23 PM..

11-16-2006, 08:40 PM	#175
payout Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	and Also My MID 2536 its better if they can solve this issue this way around.

11-16-2006, 01:58 AM	#165
Selene Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2	'While the Paymonde website is down, Cohen said the company will allow clients into their backend to check on their financial status if they contact him by email.' Anybody know his e-mail???

11-16-2006, 02:17 AM	#166
Tryme Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 596	the xbiz article sounds like complete bs

11-16-2006, 02:36 AM	#168
sdgnetsites Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6	I'm missing something here. They lost mastercard, what about the money from visa? "We never hid from anybody."-shutting down their site, dumping their profiles, icqs and apparently spying on boards but not posting sure seems a lot like hiding, but wadda I know.

11-16-2006, 03:20 AM	#169
lawked Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 354	I wonder how much money was frozen... I'm sure they want to paint the picture that all monies were frozen and that they received 0 dollars. I'm not bashing anyone... Just after reading the xbiz article... I think this guy needs to come to the table with the facts so then we can all make an informed decision. My guess would be they had some lagtime in the receive money->pay to affiliates. I'm sure they have a good chunk of money that is not frozen. Correct me if I'm wrong Paymonde.

11-16-2006, 08:00 AM	#173
IrieMax Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 112	This is so sad!! We are using Paymonde as well, actually we were using them! I know them personaly from the shows and they are great guys I hope everything will work out soon! All the BEST to Paymonde!

11-16-2006, 10:33 AM	#174
PH-GNXS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 43	Hopefully The heads of Paymonde will come out of panic mode and discuss this like true business minded people. I know what it is like to lose 1st party business merchant account and land on the TML. the reserve can forfetted due to chargebacks thus they will not get a dime of the reserves if the chargeback scenario is played out. My question is why did paymonde hit all my rebills before closing it's doors. I am tempted to do the chargeback scenario due to this fraudulent act as i figure you purposely ripped off my customers. I also Plan to push this along to the authorities even if it hurts me as one of the leader in the adult celebrity niche. I want my money thats over 20k i can prove you committed several felonies over 100 counts. my email is [email protected] contact me howard please I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO GO THIS ROUTE.

11-17-2006, 12:33 PM	#176
PH-GNXS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 43	seems they took the site back down

11-17-2006, 03:00 PM	#177
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	Hey y'all. I don't recommend doing chargebacks b/c it could come back to haunt your business in the future. Here's what I did, and what I would recommend to you. Get a cup of coffee, go into your admin area and cancel all your rebills by hand. Oh, yeah, here's the backdoor link to manage your account: http://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_i...hp?error=login Best of luck. I got this week's payout today. Anyone else?

11-17-2006, 04:47 PM	#179
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	bull crap the back door does not work chargebacks n reversal is the way to go these guys they are too smart but the long arm of law is about to catch them

11-17-2006, 04:51 PM	#180
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	for starters I am emailing every single of my clients and informing them that as I am unable to contact billing processor, the integrity and security of their credit card may be compromized and they may want to call their respective credit card companies and initiate a reversal right away

11-17-2006, 05:16 PM	#181
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	bullshit, why didn't they e-mail us and tell us something? They wonder why they get bashed. They keep telling me everyday that I will get paid and nothing happens, and we should just not worry about it and go about our day like nothing is wrong? That alone says it all, __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

11-17-2006, 06:22 PM	#182
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	of course it is a big and clear cut fraud. they did not send any payouts, kicked us out of merchant account control panels and have kept on rebilling the users

11-17-2006, 06:46 PM	#183
RFremont Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 621	Anyone in this thread or otherwise that is defending these lowlife bottomfeeders should be regarded as the same. What is happening here is nothing short of criminal until every single cent is paid to the rightful parties.

11-18-2006, 01:01 AM	#184
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	The back door works for me, is EVERYONE else having problems getting in or just some? I mean, why would I just make this up and bother posting? I should mention that I'm a sponsor and not an affiliate. Perhaps that has something to do with it. Dunno. __________________ Upskirt Champ Productions 50% Rev Share

11-19-2006, 12:49 AM	#186
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	Hmmm, that's weird. OK, perhaps it's because I emailed Howard and he gave me that link and in the process he also "activated" my account at the same time, again, dunno. So, I recommend sending him an email: [email protected] and asking about admin access, etc. At least it worked for me. Best of luck. __________________ Upskirt Champ Productions 50% Rev Share

11-19-2006, 06:30 AM	#187
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	e-mail sent. We'll test your theory. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

11-19-2006, 11:15 AM	#188
kscans Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 123	Rebill clients at Paymonde ! hi guys, some thoughts about this situation at paymonde. I think the biggest loss is our rebill clients and of course the amount over 20k what paymonde owes us now. that was simple not fair from paymonde to turn off our admin area. We didnt even had the possibility to cancel all our clients there and move them over for example to ccbill. If we send right now an email to all paymonde clients how can we explain them how and where they are able to cabcel their memberships?All of them will ask if their memberships was cancelled before they would sign up at a new processor for our sites again. Do you have any suggestions how we could handle this for our existing and rebill paymonde clients? For your help thx in advance. kind regards www.Kscash.biz __________________ Frankie

11-19-2006, 06:34 PM	#189
WebDork Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 402	Anyone have sample message they send to their clients. I wish of course to cancel access and recommend they resign up - but feel sorry for the users as well who lose their $$$... __________________ Video Ipod Porn Site with Affiliate Program. http://www.podies.com Free 1:1 Adult Webmaster Banner Exchange.

11-19-2006, 08:05 PM	#191
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	No one seems to be chiming in with any success at the link I posted. Are the people who are having problems with the link affiliates or sponsors? It's worth mentioning that this link will NOT work for AFFILIATES, it is a MERCHANT ONLY link. I'm going to assume that all who tried this link were originally smart enough to figure that out, but ya never know. Barefootsies, keep us posted on your email, at 5,434 posts what's one more? __________________ Upskirt Champ Productions 50% Rev Share

11-19-2006, 08:41 PM	#193
WebDork Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 402	Merchant link did not work for me. Said username and password were wrong. I used the email form to send pass but that didnt work either... __________________ Video Ipod Porn Site with Affiliate Program. http://www.podies.com Free 1:1 Adult Webmaster Banner Exchange.

11-19-2006, 09:50 PM	#194
Calico Jack Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,051	It'll be interesting to see what if anything happens. Keep me posted Barefootsies on any developements!

11-20-2006, 12:18 PM	#197
kscans Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 123	paymonde admin page Hi, Howard has answered my email and the login page working fine right now for our account. https://www.paymonde.com/Merchants/_...error=userpass kind regards www.Kcash.biz __________________ Frankie

11-20-2006, 12:37 PM	#198
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	OK, I'm helping the guys over at pamporn compile a list of merchants who need to get money back. Send an email to [email protected] with your name and how much money you're owed approximately. We need to take action quickly. I've already talked to investigators and they said we need to get more people together to make it worth while. The sooner we act, the great our chances of seeing our money. For what it's worth, Howard is still in Montreal and has family there, so it's going to be hard for him to disappear. The funds just get harder and harder to recover as time goes on b/c the money will start disappearing. __________________ Upskirt Champ Productions 50% Rev Share

11-20-2006, 12:44 PM	#199
PhounTho Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 157	Let me add that [email protected] has a spam preventing software, so you'll get a reply that you need to confirm, and chances are this will go to your bulk folder, so look out for that. __________________ Upskirt Champ Productions 50% Rev Share