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Sarah_Jayne · 11-04-2006, 03:24 PM

What do you think the day is going to be like in that country if he is sentenced to death?

polish_aristocrat · 11-04-2006, 03:26 PM

you make it sound like everyone follows the news...

rudeboy_77 · 11-04-2006, 03:54 PM

nothing happens! the people in Iraq will be happy if the US Troops get out..

Sarah_Jayne · 11-04-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

you make it sound like everyone follows the news...

well, if you post an article you get told everybody does

for those that don't : the Saddam verdict is due tomorrow

rudeboy_77 · 11-04-2006, 03:54 PM

nothing happens! the people in Iraq will be happy if the US Troops get out..

directfiesta · 11-04-2006, 04:09 PM

They should do like in the time of Christ ... ( Jesus or Barabas )

Give the iraqis a choice :

Put to death ....

Saddam or George W Bush .....

Results could be shocking ....

L-Pink · 11-04-2006, 04:14 PM

It will look like downtown Detroit after the Pistons won their last title.

Webby · 11-04-2006, 04:31 PM

Possibly nice timing having the verdict announced two days before the US midterm elections - but maybe not.

Baghdad airport is being closed, military leave is cancelled, various curfews announced in Baghdad and serveral provices - so looks like more killing and some celebration.

Saddam's legal team have already commented that they will be appealing the sentence - tho it has not been delivered yet

Bear in mind this is only the first of Saddam's trials - hell knows how many are planned.

Meanwhile the battle continues with over 80 bodies recovered in Baghdad alone and, who knows, but in excess of 50 elsewhere in the last 24 hours.

No doubts people in Iraq will voice their thoughts - either violently or otherwise. Meanwhile, again, no doubts, the US admin will try to spin this event any way they can to gain advantage in securing their asses at election time and try for the X'th time to justify "going to war".

marcjacob · 11-04-2006, 04:35 PM

I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.

Digipimp · 11-04-2006, 04:40 PM

should be more violence than normal. likely result is he's guilty, then an outburst from him and the others convicted until they're escorted out, and several car bombs on the street, random shootings and mortar fire, plenty of ied's and 4 to 6 us soldiers killed. about an average day in iraq at this point, probably 150 to 200 casualties with about 50 to 75 of them being deaths

Sarah_Jayne · 11-04-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kermey

I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.

You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.

Digipimp · 11-04-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kermey

I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.

you know i wasn't in favor of the war in iraq but really enough with the politically correct bullshit. since when do dictators deserve fair trials, he's lucky to even have a trial, it's all a show. if they did it the way it should have been, they would have killed him when they found him and hung him in the middle of baghdad.

Webby · 11-04-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kermey

I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.

Mmmm.. That's where the International Criminal Court would possibly have been more appropriate for this trial and removing all claims of pressures on judges and the prosecution blah (It may also have saved the lives of a few court officers).

Unless it is shown to be transparent, there will always be criticism and this is already coming from international jurists commenting on the proceedings.

The flipside and reasoning for Saddam's trial/s to take place in Iraq was a claim that Iraqi's wanted to try their man and get some closure - tho the current trial has dismissed all Iraqi involvement (other than the victims having their say). There are several Iraqi orgs who have collected millions of docs of witness testimony and so far, they think they have only worked thru 10% of the issues - Iraqi's filing with these orgs have had no say.

Saddam's trial is obviously a managed event, funded and secured by an occupation force and with the players (judges, counsel and witnesses) under pressure at different levels. Who knows what path that will take in the future - it could come back and bite ass and be part of the excuse for more "terrorism".

Webby · 11-04-2006, 04:57 PM

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You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.

Sure.. little doubts Saddam is guilty as hell - the trials are almost a waste of time

There is more than enough evidence to convict him 20 times over.

So.. the purpose of trials? Suppose that should be to allow Iraqi's their say and give the victims and the remaining families of those killed some closure - tho doubt that will ever happen.

Quagmire · 11-04-2006, 06:33 PM

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You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.

Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?

Webby · 11-04-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?

Well... is that not what he is? The criteria fits so why call a duck a parrott?

Spunky · 11-04-2006, 08:17 PM

Death by firing squad

chaze · 11-04-2006, 08:19 PM

Who dieing? Saddam

I think most of Iraq hated him anyways.

Sexxxy Sites · 11-04-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Well... is that not what he is? The criteria fits so why call a duck a parrott?

No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.

Webby · 11-04-2006, 11:08 PM

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No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.

oh shut the fuck up you stupid old fart and quit behaving like a pervert stalking boards.

It never was up to the US to invade anyone and that was only granted based on a series of lies and deceit. Are you the only person that does not know that even now? Go fuck yourself

Sexxxy Sites · 11-04-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

oh shut the fuck up you stupid old fart and quit behaving like a pervert stalking boards.

It never was up to the US to invade anyone and that was only granted based on a series of lies and deceit. Are you the only person that does not know that even now? Go fuck yourself

"granted"

Educate yourself asswipe or better still, just shut the fuck up and get back to hustling tourists.

Webby · 11-04-2006, 11:17 PM

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"granted"

Educate yourself asswipe or better still, just shut the fuck up and get back to hustling tourists.

Excuse me? Did you speak?? Does that "granted" mean you agree??

directfiesta · 11-04-2006, 11:22 PM

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No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.

When are you " liberating " Israel .... You would have a front row seat ...

Kimo · 11-05-2006, 01:02 AM

I think the whole idea of him being tried is a fucking joke

I know he did some fucked up shit, but why should he be punished when the US can just up and decide to do some regime change bullshit?

This will be another fuck up that will come back and bite us in the ass...

I mean hell we did the whole regime change thing in Iran awile back, and look how much they like us now!

Fuck.

Mr. Marks · 11-05-2006, 01:31 AM

The US policy was RETARDED to begin with. IRAQ, just like Jordan, and many other Arab states are patchwork states pieced together by colonial powers with no fucking regard to linguistic, sectarian, and ethnic differences. US comes in, thinking that IRAQ is a fairly monolithic countries.....now it's getting it's ass handed to it.

Vietnam all over again, except this time the eyes are not slanted, camels instead of water buffaloes, and fake Shias instead of Maryknoll seminarians.
Same economic result by the way--the massive spending in Nam fucked the US economy in the 70s (coupled with the Oil Embargo, of course). I wonder how long the billions spent on Iraq and continued dollar depreciation will ass ream the US economy.

Sarah_Jayne · 11-05-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?

I didn't say it was right. I just said that I can't look at him and feel my heart bleeding for him.

Manowar · 11-05-2006, 03:17 AM

I wonder how much mayhem there will be when his sentence is carried out

Webby · 11-05-2006, 03:28 AM

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I wonder how much mayhem there will be when his sentence is carried out

Would hate to put bets on anything there.

When you look at the daily death/torture incidents involving the Iraqi govt, "genuine" insurgents and US contractors and troops - these are more relevant than the future of Saddam, and could break the country apart. If that happened, there are ripple effects all over.

But sure, the mayhem will increase over the Saddam verdict - kinda ironical another few hundred people will die because of Saddam.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	so, tomorrow is the big day for Iraq What do you think the day is going to be like in that country if he is sentenced to death?

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	you make it sound like everyone follows the news... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,758	They should do like in the time of Christ ... ( Jesus or Barabas ) Give the iraqis a choice : Put to death .... Saddam or George W Bush ..... Results could be shocking .... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Possibly nice timing having the verdict announced two days before the US midterm elections - but maybe not. Baghdad airport is being closed, military leave is cancelled, various curfews announced in Baghdad and serveral provices - so looks like more killing and some celebration. Saddam's legal team have already commented that they will be appealing the sentence - tho it has not been delivered yet Bear in mind this is only the first of Saddam's trials - hell knows how many are planned. Meanwhile the battle continues with over 80 bodies recovered in Baghdad alone and, who knows, but in excess of 50 elsewhere in the last 24 hours. No doubts people in Iraq will voice their thoughts - either violently or otherwise. Meanwhile, again, no doubts, the US admin will try to spin this event any way they can to gain advantage in securing their asses at election time and try for the X'th time to justify "going to war". __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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marcjacob Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England Posts: 1,063	I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.

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chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Who dieing? Saddam I think most of Iraq hated him anyways.

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Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	I think the whole idea of him being tried is a fucking joke I know he did some fucked up shit, but why should he be punished when the US can just up and decide to do some regime change bullshit? This will be another fuck up that will come back and bite us in the ass... I mean hell we did the whole regime change thing in Iran awile back, and look how much they like us now! Fuck. __________________ ...

11-05-2006, 01:31 AM	#25
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	The US policy was RETARDED to begin with. IRAQ, just like Jordan, and many other Arab states are patchwork states pieced together by colonial powers with no fucking regard to linguistic, sectarian, and ethnic differences. US comes in, thinking that IRAQ is a fairly monolithic countries.....now it's getting it's ass handed to it. Vietnam all over again, except this time the eyes are not slanted, camels instead of water buffaloes, and fake Shias instead of Maryknoll seminarians. Same economic result by the way--the massive spending in Nam fucked the US economy in the 70s (coupled with the Oil Embargo, of course). I wonder how long the billions spent on Iraq and continued dollar depreciation will ass ream the US economy.

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Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	I wonder how much mayhem there will be when his sentence is carried out