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  • Sarah_Jayne
    Now with more Jayne
    • Dec 2002
    • 40077

    #1

    so, tomorrow is the big day for Iraq

    What do you think the day is going to be like in that country if he is sentenced to death?
  • polish_aristocrat
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    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    you make it sound like everyone follows the news...
    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • rudeboy_77
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      • Jul 2006
      • 67

      #3
      nothing happens! the people in Iraq will be happy if the US Troops get out..

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      • Sarah_Jayne
        Now with more Jayne
        • Dec 2002
        • 40077

        #4
        Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
        you make it sound like everyone follows the news...
        well, if you post an article you get told everybody does


        for those that don't : the Saddam verdict is due tomorrow

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        • rudeboy_77
          Registered User
          • Jul 2006
          • 67

          #5
          nothing happens! the people in Iraq will be happy if the US Troops get out..

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          • directfiesta
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            • Oct 2002
            • 30137

            #6
            They should do like in the time of Christ ... ( Jesus or Barabas )


            Give the iraqis a choice :

            Put to death ....

            Saddam or George W Bush .....

            Results could be shocking ....
            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • L-Pink
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              • Mar 2005
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              #7
              It will look like downtown Detroit after the Pistons won their last title.

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              • Webby
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                • Oct 2002
                • 14956

                #8
                Possibly nice timing having the verdict announced two days before the US midterm elections - but maybe not.

                Baghdad airport is being closed, military leave is cancelled, various curfews announced in Baghdad and serveral provices - so looks like more killing and some celebration.

                Saddam's legal team have already commented that they will be appealing the sentence - tho it has not been delivered yet Bear in mind this is only the first of Saddam's trials - hell knows how many are planned.

                Meanwhile the battle continues with over 80 bodies recovered in Baghdad alone and, who knows, but in excess of 50 elsewhere in the last 24 hours.

                No doubts people in Iraq will voice their thoughts - either violently or otherwise. Meanwhile, again, no doubts, the US admin will try to spin this event any way they can to gain advantage in securing their asses at election time and try for the X'th time to justify "going to war".
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                • marcjacob
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                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1063

                  #9
                  I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.
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                  • Digipimp
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 13481

                    #10
                    should be more violence than normal. likely result is he's guilty, then an outburst from him and the others convicted until they're escorted out, and several car bombs on the street, random shootings and mortar fire, plenty of ied's and 4 to 6 us soldiers killed. about an average day in iraq at this point, probably 150 to 200 casualties with about 50 to 75 of them being deaths

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                    • Sarah_Jayne
                      Now with more Jayne
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 40077

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kermey
                      I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.
                      You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.

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                      • Digipimp
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 13481

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kermey
                        I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.
                        you know i wasn't in favor of the war in iraq but really enough with the politically correct bullshit. since when do dictators deserve fair trials, he's lucky to even have a trial, it's all a show. if they did it the way it should have been, they would have killed him when they found him and hung him in the middle of baghdad.

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                        • Webby
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14956

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kermey
                          I know this wont go down well, but there is no way on earth that sadam could have a fair trial. His lawyers are planning the appeal because there is only one plausible verdict and thats guilty. If the test thats applied in the us, europe and elsewhere was applied: "can he have a fair unbiased trial" - then he would never be tried anywhere in the world.
                          Mmmm.. That's where the International Criminal Court would possibly have been more appropriate for this trial and removing all claims of pressures on judges and the prosecution blah (It may also have saved the lives of a few court officers).

                          Unless it is shown to be transparent, there will always be criticism and this is already coming from international jurists commenting on the proceedings.

                          The flipside and reasoning for Saddam's trial/s to take place in Iraq was a claim that Iraqi's wanted to try their man and get some closure - tho the current trial has dismissed all Iraqi involvement (other than the victims having their say). There are several Iraqi orgs who have collected millions of docs of witness testimony and so far, they think they have only worked thru 10% of the issues - Iraqi's filing with these orgs have had no say.

                          Saddam's trial is obviously a managed event, funded and secured by an occupation force and with the players (judges, counsel and witnesses) under pressure at different levels. Who knows what path that will take in the future - it could come back and bite ass and be part of the excuse for more "terrorism".
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                          • Webby
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                            You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.
                            Sure.. little doubts Saddam is guilty as hell - the trials are almost a waste of time There is more than enough evidence to convict him 20 times over.

                            So.. the purpose of trials? Suppose that should be to allow Iraqi's their say and give the victims and the remaining families of those killed some closure - tho doubt that will ever happen.
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                            • Quagmire
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                              • Jul 2005
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                              You are right but at the same time I don't feel for him.
                              Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?

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                              • Webby
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Quagmire
                                Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?
                                Well... is that not what he is? The criteria fits so why call a duck a parrott?
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                                • Spunky
                                  I need a beer
                                  • Jun 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Death by firing squad

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                                  • chaze
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                                    • Aug 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Who dieing? Saddam

                                    I think most of Iraq hated him anyways.
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                                    • Sexxxy Sites
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                                      • Oct 2005
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                      Well... is that not what he is? The criteria fits so why call a duck a parrott?
                                      No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.

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                                      • Webby
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                                        • Oct 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                        No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.
                                        oh shut the fuck up you stupid old fart and quit behaving like a pervert stalking boards.

                                        It never was up to the US to invade anyone and that was only granted based on a series of lies and deceit. Are you the only person that does not know that even now? Go fuck yourself
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                                        • Sexxxy Sites
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                                          • Oct 2005
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Webby
                                          oh shut the fuck up you stupid old fart and quit behaving like a pervert stalking boards.

                                          It never was up to the US to invade anyone and that was only granted based on a series of lies and deceit. Are you the only person that does not know that even now? Go fuck yourself
                                          "granted" Educate yourself asswipe or better still, just shut the fuck up and get back to hustling tourists.

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                                          • Webby
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                                            • Oct 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                            "granted" Educate yourself asswipe or better still, just shut the fuck up and get back to hustling tourists.
                                            Excuse me? Did you speak?? Does that "granted" mean you agree??
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                                            • directfiesta
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                                              • Oct 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sexxxy Sites
                                              No he is not asswipe. The US had a multitude of reasons and all seventeen resolutions handed down by the UN over eleven years provided additional reasons with 1441 opening the final door. The US should have invaded within three months of the '91 cease fire and the provisions that Iraq agreed to upon signing the cease fire. Eleven years is a long time to be patient.


                                              When are you " liberating " Israel .... You would have a front row seat ...
                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                              • Kimo
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                                                • Jan 2006
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                                                #24
                                                I think the whole idea of him being tried is a fucking joke


                                                I know he did some fucked up shit, but why should he be punished when the US can just up and decide to do some regime change bullshit?

                                                This will be another fuck up that will come back and bite us in the ass...

                                                I mean hell we did the whole regime change thing in Iran awile back, and look how much they like us now!


                                                Fuck.
                                                ...

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                                                • Mr. Marks
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 7517

                                                  #25
                                                  The US policy was RETARDED to begin with. IRAQ, just like Jordan, and many other Arab states are patchwork states pieced together by colonial powers with no fucking regard to linguistic, sectarian, and ethnic differences. US comes in, thinking that IRAQ is a fairly monolithic countries.....now it's getting it's ass handed to it.

                                                  Vietnam all over again, except this time the eyes are not slanted, camels instead of water buffaloes, and fake Shias instead of Maryknoll seminarians.
                                                  Same economic result by the way--the massive spending in Nam fucked the US economy in the 70s (coupled with the Oil Embargo, of course). I wonder how long the billions spent on Iraq and continued dollar depreciation will ass ream the US economy.

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                                                  • Sarah_Jayne
                                                    Now with more Jayne
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 40077

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Quagmire
                                                    Would you feel for Bush if he were tried as a war criminal for invading a sovereign nation with no just cause?
                                                    I didn't say it was right. I just said that I can't look at him and feel my heart bleeding for him.

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                                                    • Manowar
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                                                      • Dec 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      I wonder how much mayhem there will be when his sentence is carried out

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                                                      • Webby
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                                                        • Oct 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Manowar
                                                        I wonder how much mayhem there will be when his sentence is carried out
                                                        Would hate to put bets on anything there.

                                                        When you look at the daily death/torture incidents involving the Iraqi govt, "genuine" insurgents and US contractors and troops - these are more relevant than the future of Saddam, and could break the country apart. If that happened, there are ripple effects all over.

                                                        But sure, the mayhem will increase over the Saddam verdict - kinda ironical another few hundred people will die because of Saddam.
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