Vote: Will Saddam Be found Guilty? Will He be Executed? - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 11-03-2006, 07:48 PM

I'm starting to get more interested now that it's almost over.

I think that he is certainly going to be found guilty. I say that based on the investments and justifications that were spent to capture him. I don't think that anyone is going to let him escape the gulity verdict. The administration needs a conviction to justify the war and monies spent to go in, find the weapons they never found, and ultimately capture the evil murderer that they call him so much on t.v. I think even if there wasn't enough evidence, the political behind the scenes will ensure that there is a conviction.

I think that on the execution thing that they won't do it right away. They will probably sit on him for awhile while the automatic appeal goes through. Could be 10 years or even 20 before this guy sees a good hanging.

I'm not expert on trials, which I am sure is apparent, just what some of you armchair voyeurs like me think.

*Disclaimer*

I know shit about shit.

edit* Fuck I forgot the Poll. Jesus!!!!!!!!!!

What do you think and why?

Matt 26z · 11-03-2006, 07:58 PM

My feeling is that the people he is on trial for killing in this trial were either guilty of treason or it was an accident. I don't believe they were innocent Iraqi's that were targeted for death.

He'll be found GUILTY no matter what. The US is fucking with this trial left and right.

crockett · 11-03-2006, 08:05 PM

He will be found guilty but not executed..

titmowse · 11-03-2006, 08:23 PM

The verdict is supposed to happen this Sunday, November 5.

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 08:45 PM

rigged trial ... judge replaced, defense attorneys (3) killed ....

What is he accused of ? Ordering the termination of insurgents ... ??? Seems to be a norm in that country... and be a requirement ...

stickyfingerz · 11-03-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

My feeling is that the people he is on trial for killing in this trial were either guilty of treason or it was an accident. I don't believe they were innocent Iraqi's that were targeted for death.

He'll be found GUILTY no matter what. The US is fucking with this trial left and right.

Better do some reading up. Talk to some Kurdish people. I know 12 or more Kurds. Nashville is the largest population of Kurds in the U.S. No one was killed on accident nor were they all killed for Treason. Saddams 1 son killed 3000 of them by himself using a machine gun to make room in the prison for more prisoners. Terrible things they did.

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Saddams 1 son killed 3000 of them by himself using a machine gun to make room in the prison for more prisoners. Terrible things they did.

they both are dead ....

If ever your son kills somebody, we will come and get you.

Rochard · 11-03-2006, 09:01 PM

Everyone questions the reasons for invading Iraq. Most people say "the main reason is WMD, and there was none, thus our reasons were invalid". This is far from the truth. WMD scared us the most, the press played on it, and the Bush clan pushed it on us. Our reason for invading Iraq is simple - it was a human rights issue.

For the same exact reasons we should be in Africa, as well as other areas. And we were in Africa, although we pulled out because it wasn't popular with the public during the Clinton years.

We need to be in Iraq to prevent these things; We need to be in North Korea, Iran, and Africa for the same reasons. Not because we don't like their leaders, but because it's the right thing to do.

How will future generations look at us for not taking action?

Oh, Saddam is guilty as sin. No doubt about it.

stickyfingerz · 11-03-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

they both are dead ....

If ever your son kills somebody, we will come and get you.

Interesting. So you are saying people under Saddams direct orders were responsible for the attrocities and not Saddam?

seeric · 11-03-2006, 09:11 PM

i agree with you roc. 100%.

i never bought that wmd shit for a minute. killing innocent people and genocide is an international problem.

invading the country for that reason i don't think was saleable to the public.

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Interesting. So you are saying people under Saddams direct orders were responsible for the attrocities and not Saddam?

Is Bush responsible with his life of the rapes of iraqis, or abuse in Abu Guarib ... ?

Don't think so ... morally ? probably....

sacX · 11-03-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Everyone questions the reasons for invading Iraq. Most people say "the main reason is WMD, and there was none, thus our reasons were invalid". This is far from the truth. WMD scared us the most, the press played on it, and the Bush clan pushed it on us. Our reason for invading Iraq is simple - it was a human rights issue.

For the same exact reasons we should be in Africa, as well as other areas. And we were in Africa, although we pulled out because it wasn't popular with the public during the Clinton years.

We need to be in Iraq to prevent these things; We need to be in North Korea, Iran, and Africa for the same reasons. Not because we don't like their leaders, but because it's the right thing to do.

How will future generations look at us for not taking action?

Oh, Saddam is guilty as sin. No doubt about it.

There were MANY countries where the immediate human rights situation was worse than Iraq was in 2003, I don't believe for a second that was the REAL reason for invading Iraq.

fetishblog · 11-03-2006, 09:18 PM

Honestly I don't care. He didn't kill anyone I knew or cared about, so fuck it.

pigman · 11-03-2006, 09:20 PM

Ofcourse he will get executed.

stickyfingerz · 11-03-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Is Bush responsible with his life of the rapes of iraqis, or abuse in Abu Guarib ... ?

Don't think so ... morally ? probably....

I just find it amazing that you can find Bush at fault for things he had no control over, but you give Saddam a pass on direct orders he gave to kill people. Makes you think no?

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I just find it amazing that you can find Bush at fault for things he had no control over, but you give Saddam a pass on direct orders he gave to kill people. Makes you think no?

I was under the impression that Bush, on national tv , declared that the " liberation " had started ....
Maybe it was a Tom Cruise movie, ... not sure ....

SomeCreep · 11-03-2006, 09:38 PM

That nigga dead

Webby · 11-03-2006, 09:39 PM

Mmmm.. guilty verdict and the death sentence.

The trial has been bizarre and not remotely near the level of an international criminal court. The procedures of the court are a farce and not transparent. An example is.. there is a press gallery with curtains which can be drawn when the court elects not to let the press view the process (this is not for witness protection, that's already covered). The final period of the trial, at least in Iraq, will probably be drowned by other factors - eg today 50 more people were killed.

There are also traces of an aura that Saddam has become a figurehead in that a number of Iraqi people would have preferred Saddam to a force of occupation and ensuing deaths.

The US government has financed Saddam's trial to the tune of $75 mill and there has been no efforts to include Iraqi's within the prosecution process. There are millions of documents now archived by Iraqi people who have suffered or had members of their families killed during the Saddam era - they have never been given a voice.

The purpose of the trial is to show justice being done on behalf of the Iraqi people - this is not what has happened. At the same time, several international jurists are questioning as to whether the prosecution has actually delivered evidence effectively, plus there is considerable pressure on the judges to reach a guilty verdict.

Now.. it's no better than during Saddam's reign - probably worse. People are afraid in the streets - even while going about normal biz. Attempts by the press to interview folks on the streets are rejected in most part - they are afraid to talk.

On a positive note, this trial is an improvement on the normal court system in Iraq, where trials are over in 20-30 minutes.

Suspect Saddam will just die away - literally, and blend in with the daily background of violence currently existing in Iraq. Did the trial act as a level of closure for Iraqi victims of Saddam? Very doubtful.

2HousePlague · 11-03-2006, 09:40 PM

His fate will be a slow disintegration into oblivion.

2hp

Lazonby · 11-03-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

My feeling is that the people he is on trial for killing in this trial were either guilty of treason or it was an accident. I don't believe they were innocent Iraqi's that were targeted for death.

He'll be found GUILTY no matter what. The US is fucking with this trial left and right.

Was this a joke reply or are you really that stupid?

Lazonby · 11-03-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sacX

There were MANY countries where the immediate human rights situation was worse than Iraq was in 2003, I don't believe for a second that was the REAL reason for invading Iraq.

The main reason for invading Iraq was regime change. And it was a nice idea, but there's not that much point bringing regime change to a country in which you are not willing to crush brutally an Islamic insurgency. Here's the way to do it - any terrorist you find, you kill. Anyone who helps them, you kill.

Lazonby · 11-03-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I just find it amazing that you can find Bush at fault for things he had no control over, but you give Saddam a pass on direct orders he gave to kill people. Makes you think no?

You're wasting your time arguing with that simpleton. He gets owned in every single thread he enters and yet he comes back for more. He is Quebecois - that should give you some idea as to he mental capabilities

sacX · 11-03-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

The main reason for invading Iraq was regime change. And it was a nice idea, but there's not that much point bringing regime change to a country in which you are not willing to crush brutally an Islamic insurgency. Here's the way to do it - any terrorist you find, you kill. Anyone who helps them, you kill.

well a lot of them aren't even Islamic insurgents, they're nationalists, Saddam wasn't the most pious guy, Iraq was a very secular state. Do you kill the nationalists too? because then I think you're going to create more with every person you kill. Sounds like a pretty retarded plan to me

MaddCaz · 11-03-2006, 10:55 PM

that man is done.

bdld · 11-03-2006, 10:57 PM

he'll be found guilty and will be executed. can't wait to see what saddam's final chapter will be like.

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

Here's the way to do it - any terrorist you find, you kill. Anyone who helps them, you kill.

Good old Hitler way ....

Webby · 11-03-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Good old Hitler way ....

Quit decrying Hitler df - he had more intelligence

directfiesta · 11-03-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazonby

You're wasting your time arguing with that simpleton. He gets owned in every single thread he enters and yet he comes back for more. He is Quebecois - that should give you some idea as to he mental capabilities

Racist, please quote..... If I looked like you , I would probably kill myself...

11-03-2006, 11:20 PM

Yes I believe he will be found guilty. Hard to say if they will execute him. Even if they do it will take years before they execute him. He will probably die in prison first.

Rochard · 11-03-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sacX

There were MANY countries where the immediate human rights situation was worse than Iraq was in 2003, I don't believe for a second that was the REAL reason for invading Iraq.

There are dozens of other countries where human rights are being violated in huge fashion. Africa is a huge mess and we need to be there. The US and other nations were there, but we left because of a lack of public support. But what would have happened if we had huge public support for this operation in Africa? Perhaps we would have been much more involved. Perhaps we would still be there, and perhaps maybe Africa would be a better place today.

And of course there is no doubt in my mind that there was many reasons for invading Iraq, starting with oil.

Show me the money already.

Jace · 11-03-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

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For the same exact reasons we should be in Africa, as well as other areas. And we were in Africa, although we pulled out because it wasn't popular with the public during the Clinton years.
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we should have stayed in africa and never left

iraq was disneyland compared to africa

DarkJedi · 11-04-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

rigged trial ... judge replaced, defense attorneys (3) killed ....

What is he accused of ? Ordering the termination of insurgents ... ??? Seems to be a norm in that country... and be a requirement ...

AGREED.

HE ALWAYS SEEMED PRETTY LIKEABLE TO ME. KINDA INSPIRATIONAL. NIGGA WENT FROM DIRT POOR TO LIVING IN PALACES WITH MULTIPLE RAPE ROOMS. PLUS, HE WAS ALWAYS GOOD FOR THE OCCASIONAL BIT OF WACKINESS LIKE HIS ROMANCE NOVEL AND THE VIDEO OF HIM FIRING A GUN INTO THE AIR LIKE YOSEMITE SAM. HARMLESS

Dirty Dane · 11-04-2006, 09:33 AM

He will go free and write a I-did-it book like OJ

stev0 · 11-04-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sacX

There were MANY countries where the immediate human rights situation was worse than Iraq was in 2003, I don't believe for a second that was the REAL reason for invading Iraq.

The other countries weren't sitting on black gold

websiex · 11-04-2006, 10:30 AM

I don't know if these ideas were mentioned in the thread because I didn't read all the replies, but I think he will be found guilty.

Like the OP said, a conviction makes the war more justifiable.

Also, they keep switching his lawyers and judges, which could possibly mean they want the greatest chance at a guilty verdict possible.

Death penalty? Doubt it.

TheLegacy · 11-04-2006, 11:05 AM

guilty - and executed on tuesday just as the midterms are happening - God Bless America !!!

scottybuzz · 11-04-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Our reason for invading Iraq is simple - it was a human rights issue.

How come U.S. Do so very little work in Africa then? People are walking around with sticks as legs and playing soccer with severed heads. Bullshit do the americans care about human rights, theres so much widespread crap happening in the world.

I know im aruging with a kind of military expert here, but thats my view.

scottybuzz · 11-04-2006, 11:09 AM

but as far as the thread question? Guilty, exectution, but will die before they get round to it of natural cause.

11-05-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

How come U.S. Do so very little work in Africa then? People are walking around with sticks as legs and playing soccer with severed heads. Bullshit do the americans care about human rights, theres so much widespread crap happening in the world.

I know im aruging with a kind of military expert here, but thats my view.

Well we can't be everywhere. Why doesn't another country step in and help Africa? I love these postings because people always say that we are nosy and shit, then ask why we are not helping out another nation. I did not realize we are supposed to help everyone out. Why don't you ask your country to help them out.

Manowar · 11-05-2006, 03:21 AM

no real surprise here then

11-03-2006, 07:48 PM	#1
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Vote: Will Saddam Be found Guilty? Will He be Executed? I'm starting to get more interested now that it's almost over. I think that he is certainly going to be found guilty. I say that based on the investments and justifications that were spent to capture him. I don't think that anyone is going to let him escape the gulity verdict. The administration needs a conviction to justify the war and monies spent to go in, find the weapons they never found, and ultimately capture the evil murderer that they call him so much on t.v. I think even if there wasn't enough evidence, the political behind the scenes will ensure that there is a conviction. I think that on the execution thing that they won't do it right away. They will probably sit on him for awhile while the automatic appeal goes through. Could be 10 years or even 20 before this guy sees a good hanging. I'm not expert on trials, which I am sure is apparent, just what some of you armchair voyeurs like me think. Disclaimer I know shit about shit. edit* Fuck I forgot the Poll. Jesus!!!!!!!!!! What do you think and why?

11-03-2006, 08:05 PM	#3
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11-03-2006, 08:23 PM	#4
titmowse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: TEXAS Posts: 5,320	The verdict is supposed to happen this Sunday, November 5. __________________ I still love everybody

11-03-2006, 08:45 PM	#5
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,758	rigged trial ... judge replaced, defense attorneys (3) killed .... What is he accused of ? Ordering the termination of insurgents ... ??? Seems to be a norm in that country... and be a requirement ... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

11-03-2006, 09:01 PM	#8
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,314	Everyone questions the reasons for invading Iraq. Most people say "the main reason is WMD, and there was none, thus our reasons were invalid". This is far from the truth. WMD scared us the most, the press played on it, and the Bush clan pushed it on us. Our reason for invading Iraq is simple - it was a human rights issue. For the same exact reasons we should be in Africa, as well as other areas. And we were in Africa, although we pulled out because it wasn't popular with the public during the Clinton years. We need to be in Iraq to prevent these things; We need to be in North Korea, Iran, and Africa for the same reasons. Not because we don't like their leaders, but because it's the right thing to do. How will future generations look at us for not taking action? Oh, Saddam is guilty as sin. No doubt about it. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

11-03-2006, 07:58 PM	#2
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	My feeling is that the people he is on trial for killing in this trial were either guilty of treason or it was an accident. I don't believe they were innocent Iraqi's that were targeted for death. He'll be found GUILTY no matter what. The US is fucking with this trial left and right.

11-03-2006, 09:11 PM	#10
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i agree with you roc. 100%. i never bought that wmd shit for a minute. killing innocent people and genocide is an international problem. invading the country for that reason i don't think was saleable to the public.

11-03-2006, 09:18 PM	#13
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11-03-2006, 09:20 PM	#14
pigman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 760	Ofcourse he will get executed.

11-03-2006, 09:38 PM	#17
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11-03-2006, 09:39 PM	#18
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Mmmm.. guilty verdict and the death sentence. The trial has been bizarre and not remotely near the level of an international criminal court. The procedures of the court are a farce and not transparent. An example is.. there is a press gallery with curtains which can be drawn when the court elects not to let the press view the process (this is not for witness protection, that's already covered). The final period of the trial, at least in Iraq, will probably be drowned by other factors - eg today 50 more people were killed. There are also traces of an aura that Saddam has become a figurehead in that a number of Iraqi people would have preferred Saddam to a force of occupation and ensuing deaths. The US government has financed Saddam's trial to the tune of $75 mill and there has been no efforts to include Iraqi's within the prosecution process. There are millions of documents now archived by Iraqi people who have suffered or had members of their families killed during the Saddam era - they have never been given a voice. The purpose of the trial is to show justice being done on behalf of the Iraqi people - this is not what has happened. At the same time, several international jurists are questioning as to whether the prosecution has actually delivered evidence effectively, plus there is considerable pressure on the judges to reach a guilty verdict. Now.. it's no better than during Saddam's reign - probably worse. People are afraid in the streets - even while going about normal biz. Attempts by the press to interview folks on the streets are rejected in most part - they are afraid to talk. On a positive note, this trial is an improvement on the normal court system in Iraq, where trials are over in 20-30 minutes. Suspect Saddam will just die away - literally, and blend in with the daily background of violence currently existing in Iraq. Did the trial act as a level of closure for Iraqi victims of Saddam? Very doubtful. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

11-03-2006, 09:40 PM	#19
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11-03-2006, 10:57 PM	#25
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	he'll be found guilty and will be executed. can't wait to see what saddam's final chapter will be like.

11-03-2006, 11:20 PM	#29
JaneB Guest Posts: n/a	Yes I believe he will be found guilty. Hard to say if they will execute him. Even if they do it will take years before they execute him. He will probably die in prison first.

11-04-2006, 09:33 AM	#33
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11-04-2006, 10:30 AM	#35
websiex Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, United States of America Posts: 987	I don't know if these ideas were mentioned in the thread because I didn't read all the replies, but I think he will be found guilty. Like the OP said, a conviction makes the war more justifiable. Also, they keep switching his lawyers and judges, which could possibly mean they want the greatest chance at a guilty verdict possible. Death penalty? Doubt it.

11-04-2006, 11:05 AM	#36
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11-04-2006, 11:09 AM	#38
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11-05-2006, 03:21 AM	#40
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	no real surprise here then