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Old 11-01-2006, 12:40 AM   #1
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:2cents Ice = Fucking Evil

OK, I use drugs recreationally and quite regularly, as most would at least have heard about, if not know.

But this fucking Ice shit, damn, this is truly the semen of the devil.

I have watched a number of friends and acquaintances fall into the "Ice Pit", including my recent roommate, who I had no choice but to evict with extreme prejudice in recent times.

Now in a past life, I was known to shoot pure crystal meth into my tear duct .. and let's not go into that, because that still gives me the shivers from time to time ... and I can NEVER recall that spinning me to a place I am seeing more and more people fly off to. Sure, I didn't sleep for a long time (or at least did not want to - which is why I used to do it back in the day) and I got a nice big rush, but at least I was still in control....

Now I have been around long enough so that I DO know that what I used to shoot - and still eat on occasion - and what most term "Ice" are very, very different in most cases.

I'd smoked crack a couple of times as a self social experiment and did not like the way it made me .. so I don't do it, but I had not tried street Ice anytime in recent memory.

So on Friday night a couple of borderline acquaintances asked me if I wanted to share a smoke hit. I did know them well enough to know they usually get pretty good gear, so I joined on in.

Holy fuck.

Evil shit.

Nervous, paranoid, angry, hyper aggressive and all the bad shit. Took some really bad (i.e. stamped) coke a few hours later to really settle me down some.

Worse still, depressed and sad pretty much ever since, just coming good now.

All that from one pipe hit.

NEVER again.

Ever.

Not that fucking wrong poison.

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:42 AM   #2
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glad to hear you know what drugs to 'avoid'
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surround yourself with shit and it gets on you mr. probin.
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Old 11-01-2006, 12:47 AM   #4
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surround yourself with shit and it gets on you mr. probin.
You must be covered head to toe Mr Horowitz.

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Leave that chemical shit bro! Smoke some weed and leave the rest....
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At first I thought this thread was about Ice from GFY.

We all make choices in life, and those decisions lead to other things, better or worse. Taking any drug (legal or illegal) or dealing in vices, you have to realize that they may rule your life. And you never know it happens until it's too late.

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Old 11-01-2006, 01:02 AM   #7
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I do not trust many (or any) of the chemical made drugs... Seen too much bad shit come from them and they tend to be much more addictive which in turn FUCKS up peoples lives iether directly or indirectly.
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At first I thought this thread was about Ice from GFY.

We all make choices in life, and those decisions lead to other things, better or worse. Taking any drug (legal or illegal) or dealing in vices, you have to realize that they may rule your life. And you never know it happens until it's too late.

You are the keeper of your own house.
So Ice from GFY is not evil, right? Just a little twisted...cool!

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IF and that's a BIG if I was EVER to do any form of illegal drugs again, it would only be natural shit. Keep the chemicals under the kitchen sink!
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:12 AM   #10
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OK, I use drugs recreationally and quite regularly, as most would at least have heard about, if not know.

But this fucking Ice shit, damn, this is truly the semen of the devil.
You smoked Ice's shit?!?!?!?!

That's just too fucking weird. Ice may be a co-worker, and an Admin here on GFY, but I have never been tempted to put a flame to his defacation. I don't know, maybe it's just some strange Aussie fetish I guess.

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Old 11-01-2006, 01:19 AM   #11
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At first I thought this thread was about Ice from GFY.
Ha ha ha ha.

Rene is too good a guy to be evil.



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Old 11-01-2006, 01:22 AM   #13
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What the fuck is "Ice"?
Ostensibily pure crystal methyl amphetamine.

In reality a whole bunch of crap cooked up in a some home lab with (allegedly) some sort of amphetamine base.

Cooked and crystalized crap in a nutshell.

Hence why I made the differentiation between Ice and "real" lab grade crystal.

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Got you. Thanks. Be careful man, drugs are bad. You never know what you're gonna get with that shit.
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My best friend of 13 years committed suicide from drug addiction. I miss him so much.
He was a brilliant guy and a self made success, he was no dummy. All gone. I still cry when I think about it.
If youre hooked on heavy drugs or know anyone who is do whatever you have to do to get off of it.
When I watched then dump his ashes on the ground it really hit me that he was gone forever.
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Got you. Thanks. Be careful man, drugs are bad. You never know what you're gonna get with that shit.
Thanks for the concerns.

I do drugs responsibly.

ALWAYS.

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I'm sorry to hear about the experience you had but glad this thread wasn't about me.

Take care of yourself man...
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I'm sorry to hear about the experience you had but glad this thread wasn't about me.

Take care of yourself man...
Hey dude, sorry about the confusion.

Suffice to say YOU have never made me feel that way.

Knowledge is power and now I have the knowledge ;-)

I do drugs, they do NOT do me.

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Thanks for the concerns.

I do drugs responsibly.

ALWAYS.
Oh man, go to any drug users anon meeting and you'll find that rationalization is text book.
If you read my friends suicide note he was saying the exact same things in his early stages. People addicted to drugs will rationalize their use by saying things like:

- Im hard working and deserve a little treat for myself
- My natural sense of responsibility will prevent me from letting this get out of hand.
- I'm stronger than people who would give in to it and allow their lives to be taken over by this. To me it's just a little treat.

Do whatever you have to do to get off of it.
I'm only saying this because I dont want what happened to him to happen to you or anyone else.
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Oh man, go to any drug users anon meeting and you'll find that rationalization is text book.
If you read my friends suicide note he was saying the exact same things in his early stages. People addicted to drugs will rationalize their use by saying things like:

- Im hard working and deserve a little treat for myself
- My natural sense of responsibility will prevent me from letting this get out of hand.
- I'm stronger than people who would give in to it and allow their lives to be taken over by this. To me it's just a little treat.

Do whatever you have to do to get off of it.
I'm only saying this because I dont want what happened to him to happen to you or anyone else.
I am not ON anything to have to get OFF. I do what I do because I want to - I need no rationalization.

I'll respect your position if you'll respect mine.

I HAVE had extreme drug problems in past lives ... I do NOT overindulge or do things stupidly. Neither am I am NOT in any form of denial. I'm all good.

Alcohol and cigarettes (and not necessarily in that order) are much bigger problems to me in my life.

It's the WHY you do drugs that is ALWAYS the issues.

I have nothing to escape from, I like my life.

A lot.

Read my ambush for some more insight before laying it on please - not that I do not appreciate kind thoughts from anyone - it's just some history and understanding is always in order.

All this thread was about was a personal experience from someone who does things other's might not.

Beats the fuck out of some numbnut journo or know nothing giving their 2c about a subject they have NO personal understanding or experience of.

I am NOT pro drugs, I am pro personal choice.

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I do drugs responsibly.

ALWAYS.

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ICE aka crystal meth = the Devil's dried semen flakes.

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I have watched a number of friends and acquaintances fall into the "Ice Pit", including my recent roommate, who I had no choice but to evict with extreme prejudice in recent times.

Sadly I have been at this same junction... twice before. A former roommate about 6 years ago now was clean for about 2 years when I moved in to a small house with him and my girl. Everything was going great for roughly a year, when things started appearing off... We we're partiers, don't get me wrong. Smoke, drink, friends abounding at all hours, generally a good life, and lifestyle at 18-19, which I enjoyed thoroughly. Then the "garage sneak aways" started, quags begin materializing that no one wants to own up too. Long story short, my girl and I made a decision to leave and got a new place, in a new county with another old friend. The decision came just in the knick of time to save us from getting locked up in a tweak raid 1 month after we had moved.

Then the saga continued. New roommate, everythings going well, for about a year again... and the signs start popping up. My roomie this time was a very talented musician, who toured the west coast and carribean a bit with some great groups. Then slowly the calls for gigs stop coming in, he's looking more and more strung out every day, money for shared bills starts coming in late, and then stops... stranger and stranger company showing up at the house... so we had kicked him out... citing from the beginning we only had one rule... "No Fucking Tweak... period"

Thankfully, and extremely sadly at the same time, I was fortunate enough to have seen the adverse effects of said drugs on many who were close to me quickly enough to never indulge myself. I have an extremely addictive personality, and anything I do, I do hardcore. My life would have been fucking over.

Weed for me, it's all I want or need. Then again there was some pure MDMA floating around 3-4 years back that led to some fun nights back in WeHo... so who knows... but I'm a pretty set in stone smoker.
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they are not the same thing any more than crack = coke
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Please do all the drugs you can handle, and then do extra for good measure.
Anyone who does Ice is getting what they deserve.
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yeah ice can change the way your mood and really affect a person mentality... a very dangerous drug....

I had it a couple of times... I know how it felt like....
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