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Old 11-01-2006, 12:24 PM   #51
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They just want to deviate attention away from the fucked up situation they got themselves into in Iraq.
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Is that your head in the sand. Have you actually heard Kerry speak. He is a fucking idiot hands down. There is no mis-wording by Kerry, he just talks out his ass. As for republicans trying to deviate from Iraq, thats just a stupid comment. Unfortunately the public is not stupid but many people posting about this seem to be.
Actually yes there was a miswording. He release the text he was working off of yesterday. The main word he left off was "us". It's a simple mistake, just a very unfortunate one.

Like when whats-his-name on Fox news accidently said something about Jennifer Lopez blow-job.
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Or like when Cheney said it was a no-brainer about waterboarding the other day. He never said "I'm sorry if I offended anyone".He said what Kerry did, which was "thats not what I meant" lol
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That's not really a simple mistake. That is kind of a big deal. Missing that one word completely changes the statement, thus reinforcing my point that Kerry is an idiot and should just stay off the cameras.
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Honestly I don't like republicans OR democrats much, but the shit republicans are pulling over an obviously mis-worded quote by kerry is disgusting...

what is really scary is republicans *know* the thought process of the public.. and that tells me that if they actually think they can convince the public that kerry was referring to the troops as being uneducated and stupid, rather than the bush administration (which is what he meant), that tells me the public must be stupid as fuck.
I haven't read the rest of the thread so this is probably a repeat, but John Kerry wasn't telling a joke or wasn't misquoted or anything like that. It's exactly what he meant to say. If you know anything about him, you'd know he fucking hates military men (even though he kind of was one himself).

Hey, wasn't John Kerry the guy who committed treason (but was never charged for it) when he met with the North Vietnamese enemy? Yes, I believe he was. Is anything he does surprising? Nope.
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That's not really a simple mistake. That is kind of a big deal. Missing that one word completely changes the statement, thus reinforcing my point that Kerry is an idiot and should just stay off the cameras.
.. but you still support Bush as a brilliant president ... bizarre !
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That's not really a simple mistake. That is kind of a big deal. Missing that one word completely changes the statement, thus reinforcing my point that Kerry is an idiot and should just stay off the cameras.
It's a simple mistake with unfortunate consequences.. But I think people are smart enough to realise that, and the smear campaign against him is already backfiring in voters minds

S'ok though, less than a week until election time and this will be laughed about as being absurd regardless of who wins what.
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.. but you still support Bush as a brilliant president ... bizarre !
Never said Bush was a brilliant president. He is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but Kerry didn't misquote anything. He knew what he was saying. He can take his wifes money, shove it up his ass and then go over to Iraq and see all the soldiers that are fighting. As you can see from the banner the troops posted, Kerry is obviously well liked by the military.
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Kerry is a moron, just like most of the Democrats. Seriously, if they can't win this election, they should just pack up and start a new party. We have some of the most incompetent and corrupt Republicans in the history of our nation and the Democrats can't even seem to beat them.
honestly, even if the Democrats wouldn't say a word during the whole compaigne they should still win in most Western societies, because the Republicans are just that bad.

but being the US, that doesn't seem to be the case, maybe than the problem lies with the ignorance and education of the people
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It's a simple mistake with unfortunate consequences.. But I think people are smart enough to realise that, and the smear campaign against him is already backfiring in voters minds

S'ok though, less than a week until election time and this will be laughed about as being absurd regardless of who wins what.
Unfortunately again you are wrong. How could this possibly be a smear campaign, Kerry was the idiot that fucked up. You obviously have not lived in the US long enough to realize that half the population of this country are ignorant people who believe whatever media tells them. Media that is in all shapes and forms completely controlled by liberal democrats.
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Keith Olbermann nailed this when he said "Kerry called them stupid, and they were too stupid to realize that he called them stupid"
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Media that is in all shapes and forms completely controlled by liberal democrats.
yes... but I would prefer to control the voting machines, as the republicans do ...
But that is my perspective ....

Kerry did fuck up ... I still don't understand why politicians want to be stand-up comics, and actors want to be president/governors ... An American mystery at its best.
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Keith Olbermann nailed this when he said "Kerry called them stupid, and they were too stupid to realize that he called them stupid"
Keith Olbermann spouts bull shit all the time. I'd like to see Kerry or Olbermann go overseas and publically say that to the troops and see what happens. Maybe he'll see how quick they realized he called them stupid. Damn so many fucking stupid people in this country.
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and 4.6% with gas prices lower than I can remember in a long while and a stock market going over 12,000 for the first time ever . . .
biggest debt ever
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wages haven't gone up for 10 years
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it's has become so bad, that even very rich people are comng out against this system, although they became richer because of tax cuts

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yes... but I would prefer to control the voting machines, as the republicans do ...
But that is my perspective ....

Kerry did fuck up ... I still don't understand why politicians want to be stand-up comics, and actors want to be president/governors ... An American mystery at its best.
Have you ever noticed that when a really stupid democrat is on the ballot, the republicans come out in masses. I wonder why that is. Possibly because they are the only intelligent people in this country who actually have a sense of what would happen if the Dem got elected.
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Unfortunately again you are wrong. How could this possibly be a smear campaign, Kerry was the idiot that fucked up. You obviously have not lived in the US long enough to realize that half the population of this country are ignorant people who believe whatever media tells them. Media that is in all shapes and forms completely controlled by liberal democrats.
42 years and counting! But what do you mean? I didnt hear the media tell me he misread his own text, he said it himself or didnt you hear?
Do you think a silver star veteran would seriously go to a rally at a university then badmouth his own military? lol

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wages haven't gone up for 10 years
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it's has become so bad, that even very rich people are comng out against this system, although they became richer because of tax cuts

open your eyes: Bush and co are killing the middle class
I love when people make this correlation. Take a look at the Clinton administration. He basically did nothing his whole presidency. He skated into office on the coat tails of Bush and an upswing in the market and the end of the first gulf war. Yet, people still praise him for being a great president.
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as a vet I can say I hope kerry don't get within my sights... cause I am angry up to 2 miles for sure 5 miles 50/50
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42 years and counting! But what do you mean? I didnt hear the media tell me he misread his own text, he said it himself or didnt you hear?
Do you think a silver star veteran would seriously go to a rally at a university then badmouth his own military? lol

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If your talking about John Kerry then yes, I would expect him to bad mouth the military. He sure didn't have a problem doing it when he was running for prez. If you haven't noticed yet, I hate John Kerry and think he is one of the stupidest people I have ever seen.
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Alright, finally a veteran. Great to hear you back me up on this one. Fucking people who have never provided any service to their country have no idea what they are talking about.
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Was funny at the press briefing today when Tony Snow said he couldnt even figure out where the missing word "us" would fit.
why is Snow even bringing this up in a White House press briefing, hell they could be talking about things that are actually important, no?
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biggest debt ever
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it's has become so bad, that even very rich people are comng out against this system, although they became richer because of tax cuts

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It would be hard to get a lower paying job.
http://www.military.com/features/0,1...ESRC=army-a.nl

I want a stable job with free benefits and a 28% pay increase over the last 5 years... and yes I tried to join but was ineligible...

AND as far as John Kerrys statement goes I only have 2 questions- "WHO WRITES HIS SHIT?" & "DID THEY GET FIRED?" because I know hes having a hard time shitting out the foot he ate yesterday.... LMAO GEE I wonder how my TRICARE doctors are going to vote.....
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and 4.6% with gas prices lower than I can remember in a long while and a stock market going over 12,000 for the first time ever . . .

Guess you can't remember 1999 (when Clinton was President) gas prices were 99 cents a gallon.

Guess you also don't remember the repukes blaming Clinton when gas was at $1.60 a gallon:
"Instead of taking action to bring down gas prices dramatically before the Fourth of July holiday, (Vice President Al) Gore, Browner and President Clinton are pointing fingers to blame everyone, but not themselves, for busting the summer vacation budgets of millions of Americans," charged Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin.

Yes, the economy is going wonderful; foreclosures and bankruptcies are at an all time high, the average wage is lower than its been in 15 years, and personal debt is also at record levels. Not to mention a record deficit.

As far as the stock market, the Dow was at 11,500 when Bush took office, it rose a whopping 500 points in 6 1/2 years. Wow, you call that good?
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Guess you can't remember 1999 (when Clinton was President) gas prices were 99 cents a gallon.
and I guess you can't fucking read . . . or don't think 7 years is a significant amount of time.

I remember when gas was $.22/gallon and cheaper. I remember when gas wars meant something totally different than it means today.
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Guess you can't remember 1999 (when Clinton was President) gas prices were 99 cents a gallon.

Guess you also don't remember the repukes blaming Clinton when gas was at $1.60 a gallon:
"Instead of taking action to bring down gas prices dramatically before the Fourth of July holiday, (Vice President Al) Gore, Browner and President Clinton are pointing fingers to blame everyone, but not themselves, for busting the summer vacation budgets of millions of Americans," charged Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin.

Yes, the economy is going wonderful; foreclosures and bankruptcies are at an all time high, the average wage is lower than its been in 15 years, and personal debt is also at record levels. Not to mention a record deficit.

As far as the stock market, the Dow was at 11,500 when Bush took office, it rose a whopping 500 points in 6 1/2 years. Wow, you call that good?
Did you actually think before you posted this. Foreclosures and bankruptcies being at an all time high have absolutely nothing to do with the president. Is he telling you to fuck yourself and end up in a mound of debt and have a home you couldn't afford in the first place foreclosed on, I think not.

Wonder why gas prices were so low during the Clinton administration. Could it be that Bush Sr. fucking smacked the shit out of the middle east before Clinton ever got into office?
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Like our President and Vice President?
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euh talk radio controlled by conservatives

and I really would like people to realize that the line "media is controlled by liberals" is just that "a line", they are center.

I have been amazed in how much the US media have followed Bush the first 4 years and only know are starting to do their job. If I see what they attack Democrats on and what they let slip for the Republicans, it's amazing.

Why are you talking about how much Kerry likes the troops at a time when Bush has taken away the most fundamental principal and basically has made it okay to torture US soldiers, since you can't ask others to do more than you are willing to do
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I love when people make this correlation. Take a look at the Clinton administration. He basically did nothing his whole presidency. He skated into office on the coat tails of Bush and an upswing in the market and the end of the first gulf war. Yet, people still praise him for being a great president.
euh why don't you start to talk about Bush has accomplishments, because this seems to be the republican tactic attack the other side on their mistake to take the focus on their own bigger mistakes
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Alright, finally a veteran. Great to hear you back me up on this one. Fucking people who have never provided any service to their country have no idea what they are talking about.
Democrats have 33% more veterans running now (60-40), they have generals, an admiral and NATO supreme commander running for them

+ haven't you noticed how the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies are leaking like never before
add to that all the retiring generals who come out against Bush policy

I think the military and the intelligence community have spoken: they want this bunch gone, they might have liked them 4 years ago, not anymore
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and I really would like people to realize that the line "media is controlled by liberals" is just that "a line", they are center.

I have been amazed in how much the US media have followed Bush the first 4 years and only know are starting to do their job. If I see what they attack Democrats on and what they let slip for the Republicans, it's amazing.

Why are you talking about how much Kerry likes the troops at a time when Bush has taken away the most fundamental principal and basically has made it okay to torture US soldiers, since you can't ask others to do more than you are willing to do
I'm sorry do you live in this country. Belgian in Prauge. If you could understand what I said I have not said that Kerry likes the troops. Read my posts and then shut the fuck up and go back jerking yourself off in Prauge. See as an american I can speak about my government and have knowledge of it, whereas you are in a country thousands of miles away and have no fucking idea what you are talking about. BTW, how are things over in the Czec Republic these days. Still shitty.
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Like our President and Vice President?
I'm not sure you are aware, but the president did serve in the National Guard. If you did know that then you are making the same kind of stament that is disparaging towrd military personnel. The implication being that serving in the Guard is not a worthy service.

I could accept Kerry's answer that he is referring to Bush, except that he nowhere mentions Bush or the administration. His argument also doesn't hold because I believe that Bush had a higher GPA than Kerry, so wouldn't that mean Kerry should be stuck in Iraq?

However, for the record, I don't care what John Kerry says about the military. I think his statement was uncool, and he's an ass. But I also think it's not really news. There are more important issues than this to be discussing. But the machine keeps turning, nothing ever happens that's worthwhile when it comes to politics anymore.
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Did you actually think before you posted this. Foreclosures and bankruptcies being at an all time high have absolutely nothing to do with the president. Is he telling you to fuck yourself and end up in a mound of debt and have a home you couldn't afford in the first place foreclosed on, I think not.
Yep, you're right sheepster. Foreclosures and bankruptcies have nothing to do with economic policies, its all a big fucking fluke. Has nothing to do with health insurance skyrocketing, fuel prices, wages, outsourcing jobs, the new bankruptcy law, etc. What dumbfucks like you will spout off in order to save your perceived $300 a year in taxes
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Wonder why gas prices were so low during the Clinton administration. Could it be that Bush Sr. fucking smacked the shit out of the middle east before Clinton ever got into office?
Yea thats it dumbshit. Shut off the 3rd largest supplier of oil, that'll make gas prices go down. According to monkeys like you we're 'smacking the shit out of the middle east' now, so why in the fuck are prices 2-3 times higher? Go back to your regular schedule of jacking off to Rush's voice before you look more idiotic than you already have.
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He's a Republican. Talk about miswording something huh? Here's a jackass who intentionally called up one of his fellow republicans and spewed racial slurs on his voicemail while drunk. Awesome.
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I'm sorry do you live in this country. Belgian in Prauge. If you could understand what I said I have not said that Kerry likes the troops. Read my posts and then shut the fuck up and go back jerking yourself off in Prauge. See as an american I can speak about my government and have knowledge of it, whereas you are in a country thousands of miles away and have no fucking idea what you are talking about. BTW, how are things over in the Czec Republic these days. Still shitty.
funny how you have to resort to this, this prooves how ignorant you are

Americans who life abroad actually say that "we", in the rest of the world, can't understand why Americans keep voting for Bush, because the US news don't report or put emphasis on the things that are truely important

maybe start watching the BBC, so might not believe all this GOP stump lines

ah yes Prague very bad: hottest chicks in the world & beer going at 60 cents (half a liter)

have you ever been outside the US, ooh yes why go ... the rest of the world is shit anyway right? Damn what are all those expats doing here???
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I'm not sure you are aware, but the president did serve in the National Guard. If you did know that then you are making the same kind of stament that is disparaging towrd military personnel. The implication being that serving in the Guard is not a worthy service
Bush didn't show up most of his time at the Guard? Why was he never charged?

Bush didn't want to go to Vietnam, so his father got him a save position in Texas.
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I'm not sure you are aware, but the president did serve in the National Guard. If you did know that then you are making the same kind of stament that is disparaging towrd military personnel. The implication being that serving in the Guard is not a worthy service
Bush didn't show up most of his time at the Guard. Why was he never charged?

Bush didn't want to go to Vietnam, so his father got him a save position in Texas.
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funny how you have to resort to this, this prooves how ignorant you are

Americans who life abroad actually say that "we", in the rest of the world, can't understand why Americans keep voting for Bush, because the US news don't report or put emphasis on the things that are truely important

maybe start watching the BBC, so might not believe all this GOP stump lines

ah yes Prague very bad: hottest chicks in the world & beer going at 60 cents (half a liter)

have you ever been outside the US, ooh yes why go ... the rest of the world is shit anyway right? Damn what are all those expats doing here???
Funny how you question my ignorance. I watch the BBC, but really have no use for any type of news outlet. I find they all tend to skew whatever they are reporting in the direction they want, I prefer to form my own opinions. I have absolutely no problem with the rest of the world. Just western Europe. Beer going at .60, probably because the conversion rate is horrible.
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I prefer to form my own opinions. I have absolutely no problem with the rest of the world. Just western Europe. Beer going at .60, probably because the conversion rate is horrible.
forming your own opinions, it shows, if you would listen to some others you would know Czech Republic is NOT Western Europe

In Western Europe the beer price highly depends on the individual country

and yes the dollar has been shit for years
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funny how you have to resort to this, this prooves how ignorant you are

Americans who life abroad actually say that "we", in the rest of the world, can't understand why Americans keep voting for Bush, because the US news don't report or put emphasis on the things that are truely important

maybe start watching the BBC, so might not believe all this GOP stump lines

ah yes Prague very bad: hottest chicks in the world & beer going at 60 cents (half a liter)

have you ever been outside the US, ooh yes why go ... the rest of the world is shit anyway right? Damn what are all those expats doing here???
Like most southern sheep he lives in a world of Nascar, cow fucking, and FOX News. He thinks the US is the only country in the world that has running water, McDonalds and television. He is a republicans dream.
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Like most southern sheep he lives in a world of Nascar, cow fucking, and FOX News. He thinks the US is the only country in the world that has running water, McDonalds and television. He is a republicans dream.
Actually I have lived in some of the highest per capita income cities in the world. Grew up in Naples, FL, lived in Jupiter Island, FL and Boca Raton, FL for a while, then moved to Palm Beach and finally ended up in Orlando and will be going back to Boca soon.

If either of you could read, I live in Florida, not backwoods fucking Kentucky. I fucking hate Nascar and if you consider Florida the South, you have never been to the real South. Take a trip to Alabama, Georgia or one of the deep south states and then get back to me.

My Pa told me when we lived in the trailer park that the US was the only country that had running water and McDonalds. Fucking moron.
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Like most southern sheep he lives in a world of Nascar, cow fucking, and FOX News. He thinks the US is the only country in the world that has running water, McDonalds and television. He is a republicans dream.
or that the rest of the world is like Kazakhstan as in the Borat movie

anyone seen Bill Maher last week
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or that the rest of the world is like Kazakhstan as in the Borat movie

anyone seen Bill Maher last week
What a surprise, you watch Bill Maher as well.
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What a surprise, you watch Bill Maher as well.
keep dodging questions, don't answer with facts about policy ... keep to the insults, because that seems to be the thing you're good at
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Most of the casualties have occured since Saddam Hussein was overthrown and the Bush Administration declared "mission accomplished".

While Republicans and Democrats debate a misspoken sentence, more troops are dying and being wounded, and the situation in Iraq is getting worse.

Our so-called leaders from both parties should all be apologizing for that, and then do everything in their power to stop this madness.

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keep dodging questions, don't answer with facts about policy ... keep to the insults, because that seems to be the thing you're good at
What question? Military service, I served my country proudly in the Marines. Don't question my dedication to a country that you don't live in.

I'm not the one calling me a hick from that loves nascar and thinks america is the only developed country. Get a fucking clue.
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