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Old 10-28-2006, 02:12 AM   #51
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I understand the female body builder niche... That being said, the pic at the top of this thread can't possibly be female.
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Old 10-28-2006, 03:51 AM   #52
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jesus,i dont think we should discuss quallity of photo,we should rather discuss "her" look,lol
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:51 AM   #53
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Old 10-28-2006, 05:56 AM   #54
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:02 AM   #55
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If that's a real pussy under that skirt then I'd hit it HARD....I love muscular women...

The thing is that I see most female bodybuilders in a thong so I can see that REAL rockhard muscular bubble booty...Let's see a pic of her ass and if I see two chickenbreasts instead of two hamhocks, then I'll be VERY skeptical.
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:29 AM   #56
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how can you work in porn and not understand that the single most important requirement for guys in a woman is that she looks like a woman?
Oh my, how can you work in porn and not know that what people find attractive or stimulating can be pretty well anything. Some men like extremely large women, some like 'em covered in scat, some like them looking like ghetto ho's and some like their women looking muscular like the female in the pic.

I can tell you that girls like her have no shortage of men willing to bang the crap out of them. I personally don't find them attractive, but I do know girls like that have a huge following of men that find them highly erotic.

This industry is about fantasy, about exploring your sexuality, and also about just checking things out...hence the reason tranny sites do so well. I'm sure a lot of men would never want to fuck a tranny, but they are curious enough to want to join a site and check them out...same with midgets, women over 350 lbs, hairy women, ugly women...and yes bodybuilders
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Old 10-28-2006, 06:42 AM   #57
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venus - first congratulations on your pregnancy!
Second, you have beautiful horses and they truly are what you imagine in fairytales.
Third, I think the girl in the pic has an awesome body (comes off a little too red IMHO) but perhaps a little more 'boob' than 'chest' would have won the crowed over easily with the GFY crowd.

Awesome work nonetheless!
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Old 10-28-2006, 07:07 AM   #58
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how can you work in porn and think that everyone wants the same thing?


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did i say i think EVERYONE wants the same thing, you fat fucking jerkoff?

look dipshit, if you sold cooked babies on a stick stuffed with creme filling, there are people in the world that will buy them and eat them. i am sure you could make some money being the only of 3 fucking clowns in the biz selling them. that doesn't mean it in any way typifies the tastes of the average person.

jesus christ. if html required a license and basic reading comprehension, you would be out of a job.


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I don't know why you are arguing over menial things like attractiveness. The real issue at hand is -- does that pic qualify as non-nude?
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:53 AM   #60
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ok,,..... i'll help you. do you want to know what most guys find attractive? its not hard. every program is full of those sites. look at the top 50 adult programs and tell me out of those groups of sites,... how many feature muscle bound women? i think you'll find that number to be in the mid to high..... 0's. that snapshot of porn online can offer you a fair indication of what "most" guys find attractive. apparently, more guys like fat woman than bodybuilding women by a factor of... what? it is a big number.

i have a lot of respect for the dedication and hard work it takes for a woman to put on that much muscle.

all i was commenting on was your "surprise" that guys didn't find it attractive. and you are not surprised because no doubt, you have heard this quite a bit in your years of bodybuilding. in fact, i am struggling to recall the last time i heard a guy look at a pic like that and say "hmmm... she's really hot". fitness models.... hell yeah. female bodybuilders that are benching, squatting and deadlifting more than me? uhmm no.
Apparently you aren't keeping in touch with the trend, there is a huge re-surgance in interest in the female bodybuilder-type form. It's apparent in tons of magazines etc in mainstream, and either way, venus caters to a Micro-Niche. There are lots of them out there, just because they're not up your alley, doesn't mean others will not find them attractive. Hell there are men who love and pay money to see Super Sized BBW's, I'm sure you're not one of them. Does that make it wrong? NO. If people are making money doing it, does it matter if YOU think it's attractive? Someone out there does. Venus has been around a long time and is good at her niche. Think about that a minute.
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again... for the really slow, defensive, thick headed and the uptight. i DID NOT SAY some people don't like it. obviously some people like it. and obviously that group of people is very small.

"micro niche" says it all. that was my point exactly. not too sure whats so hard to understand about that. "micro niche" as in "almost no one finds this to be a sexual turn on". if it had a broader appeal, it wouldn't be a "micro niche". it doesn't have a broad appeal because the average guy is not turned on by a masculine woman.

thats all.

end of story.

all i was saying.

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Old 10-28-2006, 12:33 PM   #62
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Old 10-28-2006, 12:37 PM   #63
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No you wouldn't ........
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Old 10-28-2006, 01:11 PM   #64
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look at the top 50 adult programs and tell me out of those groups of sites,... how many feature muscle bound women? i think you'll find that number to be in the mid to high..... 0's.
I think that having a site that appeals to a smaller audience is what they refer to as "niche marketing", but I could be wrong on that.
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thanks, my due date is may 22 so I am happy, I can still go to the Nehterlands and Germany in january... thats if I feel better... I am as sick as a dog... this really sucks.

I love my horses, they write about the type of horses I have in lots of romance novels, they are using them more and more in movies also which is cool.

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venus - first congratulations on your pregnancy!
Second, you have beautiful horses and they truly are what you imagine in fairytales.
Third, I think the girl in the pic has an awesome body (comes off a little too red IMHO) but perhaps a little more 'boob' than 'chest' would have won the crowed over easily with the GFY crowd.

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stop acting like you know something, I know what you think and I really don't care and I don't care what you think of it, I did not start this thread so you could try and jack it with ignorance. I did not post it to turn you on, if your a surfer looking to whack off find something that you like and I am sure someone here will sell you a membership, if you dont like something go find something you do like. Stop trying to pretend you know anything about what I do. You don't, so go do something else.

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again... for the really slow, defensive, thick headed and the uptight. i DID NOT SAY some people don't like it. obviously some people like it. and obviously that group of people is very small.

"micro niche" says it all. that was my point exactly. not too sure whats so hard to understand about that. "micro niche" as in "almost no one finds this to be a sexual turn on". if it had a broader appeal, it wouldn't be a "micro niche". it doesn't have a broad appeal because the average guy is not turned on by a masculine woman.

thats all.

end of story.

all i was saying.

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Your one of those kids that got beat up allot in school huh....

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your pretending to know something again, you do not know what the top 50 adult programs are, no one on here does, you know what others say, you know rumors, you know what you want to believe, but you do not know what the top 50 or 500 are. I know of sites that made themselves up to be HUGE and had people believing it and then went under because they were making no money. I know sites people think are small but make ALLOT of money.

your a follower, you losten to hype, you believe it, nothing wrong with it, lots of people live in fantasy worlds, most of the affiliate programs would not have affiliates if they could not get sheep like to to belive them.


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stop acting like you know something, I know what you think and I really don't care and I don't care what you think of it, I did not start this thread so you could try and jack it with ignorance. I did not post it to turn you on, if your a surfer looking to whack off find something that you like and I am sure someone here will sell you a membership, if you dont like something go find something you do like. Stop trying to pretend you know anything about what I do. You don't, so go do something else.
i never said i care or know anything about what you do now did i? you have to keep saying that to deflect attention from the general tastes of the male of our species and the fact that most guys don't like girls with a masculine voice, a mustache, 19" biceps and a clit the size of a thumb that will never go back to normal. i am not the only one to make comments to that effect... so lighten up.
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LOL... nope, just been doing this a long time, I spend allot of time in chat rooms, the first 4 years my site was up I did webcam show 5-6 days a week, 3 hours each.

I dont get upset, I dont get defensive, when someone is being stupid I tend to just be blunt. If your looking for someone bubbly and warm or ditzy, thats not me... never has been never will. This is a business to me, nothing more, I dont do it to party, I dont do it to meet people, I do it because its a business, the same as running any other business. I am just not wal-mart, the customer is not always right....

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LOL... why in the world would you think I care what someone else on here says, I asked a question about the picture, I dont care what you think of the model... I could have easily posted a picture of a trash can and asked the same question.

Since its my site, I am the only person who has to care about the model, if I am wrong I lose money, if I am right I make money. its that simple. so forget the model and go tell someone else how to do things, I am sure they will appreciate it more then me.

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your a follower, you losten to hype, you believe it, nothing wrong with it, lots of people live in fantasy worlds, most of the affiliate programs would not have affiliates if they could not get sheep like to to belive them.
your right. no one knows anything and the porn industry has it totally wrong. people just randomly join sites for absolutely no reason at all, regardless of the content and just do so because they can't find a great She Hulk site to join... and it has nothing to do with the demands and tastes of the masses.

i think all that EQ has gone to your brain.
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Since its my site, I am the only person who has to care about the model, if I am wrong I lose money, if I am right I make money. its that simple. so forget the model and go tell someone else how to do things, I am sure they will appreciate it more then me.

did i tell you what to do?

do you just make shit up as you go in everything you do? or you reserve that behavior for message boards.

why do you say you don't care when you are so super defensive? obviously you care.
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Dean Capture - What do you think of this shot
Hi Venus, feel free to contact me privately anytime you would like my opinion about your work

You should have my contact info -

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the photo is techically fine.. try to get the subject in the center, not off to one of the sides but right in the middle, if you camera has gridlines, turn on this feature, it helps to line up properly..
lighting is ok, dramatic but i think thats what you are looking for right ? perhaps a little red..kinda looks like she/he/beast just came out of the nuclear tanning bed..

who said ms Hulk ..?
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the photo is techically fine.. try to get the subject in the center, not off to one of the sides but right in the middle, if you camera has gridlines, turn on this feature, it helps to line up properly..
lighting is ok, dramatic but i think thats what you are looking for right ? perhaps a little red..kinda looks like she/he/beast just came out of the nuclear tanning bed..

who said ms Hulk ..?
Why should the subject be centered in the picture frame?

It looks like she placed the subject in relation to the background and
not dead center of the frame. Look at the picture and imagine the model
moved to the center of the frame without changing the camera angle.
Do you think that would have been better?

If she had placed the model in the center the model would have had
a building coming out the top of her head and the hair light wouldn't have
been nearly as effective.

Typically the eye looks at a photograph left to right much like when reading
text on a page unless there is someting " eye catching " that draws the viewer directly to it. There is nothing wrong with placing the main subject off center and especially to the right as long as there is something to fill the space and in this case the background does that.
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i never said i care or know anything about what you do now did i? you have to keep saying that to deflect attention from the general tastes of the male of our species and the fact that most guys don't like girls with a masculine voice, a mustache, 19" biceps and a clit the size of a thumb that will never go back to normal. i am not the only one to make comments to that effect... so lighten up.
I think her point is that she is not marketing her stuff to "most guys".
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Why should the subject be centered in the picture frame?

It looks like she placed the subject in relation to the background and
not dead center of the frame. Look at the picture and imagine the model
moved to the center of the frame without changing the camera angle.
Do you think that would have been better?

If she had placed the model in the center the model would have had
a building coming out the top of her head and the hair light wouldn't have
been nearly as effective.

Typically the eye looks at a photograph left to right much like when reading
text on a page unless there is someting " eye catching " that draws the viewer directly to it. There is nothing wrong with placing the main subject off center and especially to the right as long as there is something to fill the space and in this case the background does that.
dont move her, just move the lens a little to the right, ..think the background is nice, but it is just that..a background, not what the photographer really want us "the viewer" to look at, which is also why the background is metered lower than the foreground, we dont want the background to take away from the actual subject of the photo..
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like The Ghost said, I'll need to see a DNA test first.
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dont move her, just move the lens a little to the right, ..think the background is nice, but it is just that..a background, not what the photographer really want us "the viewer" to look at, which is also why the background is metered lower than the foreground, we dont want the background to take away from the actual subject of the photo..
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Untill Venus tells us, we can only guess as to the constraints of her set. It's possible that her background painting ends right where she placed the right side of the frame. If she moves the camera to the right it might expose something else in the background like a blank wall and that wouldn't be good.

The background is very important in any photograph and when done properly it can enhance and help tell the " story " of your picture. If done badly it can certainly take away from the picture.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:50 PM   #89
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I think her point is that she is not marketing her stuff to "most guys".
she has no point.

my orginal comment and as i keep saying, was simply that "most guys" dont find that attractive and was in response to her supposed shock at peoples reaction to seeing such a "woman", when its sooooo obviously not the first time she has heard people react in such a way. nothing more.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:55 PM   #90
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again... for the really slow, defensive, thick headed and the uptight. i DID NOT SAY some people don't like it. obviously some people like it. and obviously that group of people is very small.

"micro niche" says it all. that was my point exactly. not too sure whats so hard to understand about that. "micro niche" as in "almost no one finds this to be a sexual turn on". if it had a broader appeal, it wouldn't be a "micro niche". it doesn't have a broad appeal because the average guy is not turned on by a masculine woman.

thats all.

end of story.

all i was saying.

done.
Micro-niche meaning small, extremely loyal following, fewer people promoting so extremely low level of saturation, even a few thousand hardcore followers can fuel a niche and make it profitable. And we all know how realistic a small number like a few thousand would be when we're speaking in terms of a global community. Cha-ching.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:32 PM   #93
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Micro-niche meaning small, extremely loyal following, fewer people promoting so extremely low level of saturation, even a few thousand hardcore followers can fuel a niche and make it profitable. And we all know how realistic a small number like a few thousand would be when we're speaking in terms of a global community. Cha-ching.
sorry but again, you are having a totally different conversation that has zero to do with anything i was saying or any point i was trying to make.

thanks for playing though.

"most guys" don't like a masculine woman. period. end of story. thats all i was saying.

not quite sure why thats so hard to read or grasp.
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"most guys" don't like a masculine woman. period. end of story. thats all i was saying.
I don't promote this niche but if I did I would be responding with "who gives a shit if most guys don't like it"

As I read it, the point of this thread was for her to ask Dean a question. Now, had she asked something more like "What do all you average joe regular porn loving guys think of this 'girl'" THEN your comments would be valid.

I don't see Venus being surprised by some of the juvenile comments in here so much as her telling those who aren't interested in this type of content to beat it.

To be honest my first thought when I looked at that pic was "Where are her tits?"..... but as a webmaster I can understand the niche and relate in that way to those who ARE into muscle chicks. Frankly I don't see where there's a need for some of the idiotic comments when she's trying to have a business conversation, but that's typical of GFY, and probably several other boards as well (but especially GFY).

Time to go take my vitamins. :D
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