IANAL....

That's a much trickier issue than you seem to be making it. In the US he obviously has a very strong claim on the mark dating back to its first use in commerce. Internationally that claim would depend on the fame of the mark, the laws of the country where the infrigement takes place, the laws of the country where the infringer is resident, and various treaties and international agreements.

Furthermore, regardless of whether he holds a registered trademark on the domain name or not, he could still go after the domains under ICANN's URDP.

http://www.icann.org/udrp/udrp-policy-24oct99.htm
[quote]
b. Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. For the purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:

(i) circumstances indicating that you have registered or you have acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or

(ii) you have registered the domain name in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or

(iii) you have registered the domain name primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or

(iv) by using the domain name, you have intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to your web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of your web site or location or of a product or service on your web site or location.
/quote]

here is a fact - lightspeed is VERY close to most if not all MAJOR processing companies, paysites and hosting companies out there. The BIG ones

fucking with lightspeed isn't smart - steve doesn't need to pick up a phone and call a lawyer - he can DESTROY someone with a couple of phone calls to his friends - and no way to prove that either - just a phone call or two and your income is cut in half and you'll never grow big in online adult.

only a few people can do that - Steve's one of them in this business.

now - here's where it gets scarry - BIG people in this business LOVE Steve - cherish him as a friend and where it gets really scary is that even though Steve is a GREAT guy and doesn't really believe in revenge - Steve's friends, if they see someone giving Steve a hard time - will do it without being asked.

Remember this morons - Steve Lightspeed is a MADE MAN in this business. Fucking with him means you will have a LOT of doors closed on you - doors you never knew could ever be opened. Steve doesn't even have to DO ANYTHING for that to happen too - it just WILL HAPPEN cause of WHO HE IS.

That is the real facts

:2 cents:

Also since the domains appear to be registered through a US registrar, you could be sued in the US under US trademark law. Of course, it might be hard for him to collect any judgement that would be rendered in the case unless you have assets in the US aside from the names.

read above moron

i know some domains that have been registered lately that are trademarked not related to steve's where people are going to be sad when they find out. lol.

I very much appreciate your insight Sleazy, but this is exactly the kind of bullying tactics I was on about. He can shut all the doors he wants for me, because me, I take the elevator. We're not in the same business, so I really am not afraid of Mr Lightspeed and his FUD.

Sure, he is a very smart and wealthy man. I have ZERO against his success, but like all corporate giants, they think they can squash anyone they want. Well, no. This is the exact reason why I am against corporate capitilism. Fucking gorillas can lend me their fur so I can wipe my ass, thank you very much.

This is why some were scared enough to bow to him.

Yup, you're right on there.

Now will he do it?

So anyway, Steve, I take it by your silence, that you don't think an apology to Gillespie is in order?

If not, why not?

Defend what's yours Airek! But you wouldn't stomp on them if they were sending you traffic with the domains would you?

Yea, you guys don't know UDRP. You don't need a TM to take back all those names.

Steve, contact John Berryhill, he's your man.

Looks like Steve got borked, whatever that means...

he borked me good:winkwink:

then again, it's not about all that, now is it?

WTF? Are we on the set of the next Godfather movie? STFU jack ass.

Remember kids, messing with Steve Lightspeed with get you whacked. Sleepin with the fishes! 6 feet deep! Pushin' up daisys!

Way to Go Steve!! Kick his ass

park :thumbsup

LMFAO :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What the HELL did you search for to find THAT?!!
And WTF???

That just made my Friday evening - cheers:thumbsup
Godda watch out fer that backstabbin monster:helpme :helpme

this page is better then no page, see sig yo

Drama I tell you..

GAY :2 cents:

That only means it's been filed. In about 60-90 days it will be published for opposition, this is where anyone can contest it and basically screw him within reason. Otherwise after the publication period ends it will be registered. I would say about 9 months from now it will be trademarked if there isnt opposition.

I'm not the first bit concerned about the legalities here. This is a small industry that's all about relationships and reputation.

Remember that Steve is widely respected and loved and so is Jordan, not just as a model, but as a person too.

Good luck winning the hearts and minds, champ.

ROFL! You are a fucking idiot.

What Sdream said is pretty accurate.

If you play with fire don't be surprised if you get burned.

Steve and lightspeed are a great solid company and have been in our industry for many years now.

making relationships and partnerships is way better then burning bridges.

peace

Todd

I would take a break from the Sopranos reruns SD

late sig spot

:thumbsup Yeah that was Hott

no shit eh :helpme

I don't expect anyone here that has not built a brand themselves to understand what I am saying but here but I will post it anyway.

When you spend as much time, energy, and cold hard cash to develop a brand as Steve has then and only then will your opinion of how he protects his copyrights and trademarks matter to him.

Lightspeed gives some of the best marketing tools and affiliate support out there. He doesn't have to give anyone his names too and if he does then he is free to do so in the manner of his choosing.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

as the owner of raimimiller.com i can tell you the problem is that steve and his company have licienced the name and likeness of his girls so much that even if the trademark was as far reaching as he claims it is (and it is no where close) a good lawyer would tear his claim to pieces.

With coconut content, his lightspeed plugin hell you don't even need to promote him to make money legally with any "trademarked" domain.

you could put up galleries for all the sites which feature the lightspeed plugin with a sales message about how you get the lightspeed girl (which ever one you own) for free by joining the site.

The entire purpose of getting the trademark given all of his mistakes is that he wants to threaten stupid webmasters into backing down and giving him the domains.

obviously there are a lot of suckers who would fall for this crap. But ultimately as more and more people start to realize just how weak his legal position.

Steve should learn to play nice because if he comes out swinging some people are actually going to have the legal resources to check out his claims when they are threatened.

Steve will never come after me even though he has publically threatened me repeatedly because he knows he hasn't gotten a prayer of winning.


BTW for all of you who own the domains with jordan capri in them and are worried about this future trademark
when the oppossion period comes up just do a search thru the white pages and find people whos real name is jordan capri and born before 2003-01-01 It should be to hard to get one of them to write a letter saying how granting this mark would undermine their right to perform in the adult industry under their real name. worst case a couple of $ bucks may be all that need to get such a letter.

Ask cindy crawford (super model) how she feels about brand delusion of "cindy crawford" the pornstar

thank you gg - I was beginning to get disillusioned that everyone here was under the Big Thumb to not realise the problem with such gorilla tactics.

You have proven me wrong.

everybody in here needs a drink! I love you Steve, I got your back. We can punch em all in the face at WA (unless they are my friend, you punch those guys). j/k. Play nice boys! You're all in the same sandbox together.

Good thread. Silence speaks volumes.:thumbsup

I seem to remember Cindy the pornstar has that as her real name and that is why she could continue to act under that name.

BTW, it is "brand dissolution" not "brand delusion".

Maybe when you figure out the difference we can start to pay attention to your unfounded, irresponsible, and almost delusional advice on this topic.

That's the funniest thing i've read all day, stick to programming buddy and stop making a fool of yourself :2 cents:

That is why i said to look for "jordan capri" born before his first use date

if you are going to disagree with me it is NOT a good idea to simply restate my point.

I agree with you Steve, but the problem is a lot of these people are just affiliates. They do not have the ethics that webmasters and models in the biz would have. They just want to make cash off of all the hard work of the real webmasters, photographers, models, etc. Most of the people on here are cool and honest. Just a few make it suck for eveyone.

Hmmm another asshole on the forum. How nice to see. Instead of insulting Steve how about learning how to spell. Your posting is full of words that are spelled wrong.