An Insight Into Filipino Justice ..... - GoFuckYourself.com

CuriousToyBoy · 10-25-2006, 06:53 AM

THIS IS REPRODUCED FROM ANOTHER SITE....

I MAKE NO COMMENT AS TO THE STORY BELOW, I DID KNOW THE GUY IN PASSING WHEN I LIVED THERE, AND HE, TO MY ESTIMATION, WAS NOT ANYMORE THAN ANY OTHER SEX-ORIENTED EXPAT I MET IN MY TIME IN THE PHILLIPINES, YOUNG GIRLS SURE, BUT NOT A PEDO.

THE STORY THOUGH, GIVES AN INSIGHT INTO THE CORRUPTION AND POLICE MENTALITY ... A STORY MANY CAN DUPLICATE IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES.

AS THEY SAY, HE WITH THE PESOS HAS THE SAY SO ....

I was surprised in mid-September to see a news report on the TV in Ireland about the case against Barry Edwards being dismissed. I was more surprised that many people in Angeles City hadn't heard this news that was rebroadcast half a world away almost every hour, all day long.

RETIRED math teacher Barry Edwards has walked free from court in the Philippines, despite local police claiming they had video evidence of him abusing children. Police said they found Edwards in his bedroom with a 14-year-old girl and claim in his possession was a box of photographs and videos of him abusing underage girls.

Some of the video footage was even aired on television in the Philippines. The trial collapsed after a key witness failed to turn up to the trial, and video evidence was not submitted by the prosecution. Edwards was tracked down by anti-pedophile campaigner Father Shay Cullen, who claimed he had to pay police to assist him. Edwards denies the charges against him and says he has been framed by the police.

As of mid-September 2006, all charges against Barry have been dismissed. Barry has rarely commented on the case publicly, on the advice of his lawyers, since several of the interviews he did grant to various media outlets (BBC, Reuters, GMA-7 TV) were heavily edited and presented a rather biased, sensationalist point-of-view.

The info below was originally post by Big Al on the adult members site Asian Escapades http://www.asianescapades.com/ On 11 October Barry gave a copy of the comments below.

Here, then, are Barry's own comments and replies (in brackets, [ ]) to some of the statements and accusations that, to date, have gone unanswered and uncontested:

__________________________________________________ _______________

(1) On 24 July 2003, Barry Edwards trawled the bars on Fields looking for under-age girls [BE had not been to a bar for three days]

(2) He took three girls back to his hotel [Around 4 pm, three girls knocked on his apartment door, uninvited and unexpected. Two of them, E and R, he knew slightly as well-known street (that is, not from the bar) prostitutes. The third girl, M, he had never seen before. All three have since become notorious for set-ups]

(3) He raped M while E and R waited in another room for their turn to be raped [E and R asked him to give M money for sex. He said no but after a hard-luck story agreed to talk to her. E and R waited outside (below) with the police.]

(4) The police caught him in bed with M, aged 14. [After only about 5 minutes, he answered a knock and stepped outside, fully clothed, onto the walkway, where squatted R. Two men in ordinary clothes jumped on him from behind the door. He threw them off and called out for security. A third man, also in ordinary clothes, put his gun to BE's head and said "Let us in or I'll kill you." A dozen hotel staff finishing duty witnessed this from below.]

(5) A sex video featuring the girl E was showing "in plain view on a TV" [A complete invention and a coincidence worthy of Doctor Zhivago and a belief in fairies.]

(6) Many "sex videos" were found in the apartment [The police, who had not announced themselves as such and forgot in their excitement to arrest BE, had no arrest warrant and no search warrant. Many things were stolen from the apartment, such as TVs, a DVD player, a very pornographic electric fan (which even appears on the official list!) shoes and clothes (some of which were given to the girls!) through to about 200 pounds in cash (which strangely did not appear on the list).]

(7) BE was the center of a gang supplying Europe with "sex videos" [A fantasy from a repressed mind. Tens of thousands of people around the world make films of their love-making with a consensual partner. These are private and nobody else's business.]

(8) Thousands of "pornographic" photos of women were found. [Many normal remembrance photos were stolen. Millions of people around the world take glamour photos of willing models. Normal heterosexual men get pleasure from seeing an attractive female body nude. It is not "dirty" and no big deal. When private it is, again, nobody else's business; when commercial, such things are freely available in supermarkets and other places in the Philippines, where there is, in fact, no legal definition of "pornography".]

(9) BE faced charges of Pedophilia [The three charges were of rape (which then carried the death penalty) with all three girls, on separate occasions. They were dismissed at preliminary hearing. This was because the charges were preposterous, and there was no evidence of rape nor interest (by the girls) in pursuing them.]

(10) BE escaped justice by bribing the police to drop the case. [It was not an option for the police; the case was in court! In fact, soon after the dismissals, they were so frustrated that they raised new charges, using the same incident and personnel, completely at the other end of the scale. These were of "being in the company of a minor...in a public or private place" (amazing that such a bad law--Political Correctness gone mad, since its only logic is the presumption of an intended crime in a person's head--can exist) and "showing pornography to minors". Unlike rape charges, these are bailable.]

(11) He then ran away and hid. [BE lived openly in Puerta Galera for ten months and visited Angeles several times.]

(12) Expeditions to Palawan and Boracay failed to find him. [A simple message to his lawyer that new charges were extant was all that was needed for him to report to the Court.]

(13) A dramatic operation by fearless channel GMA 7, re-arrested him. [Melodramatic, unnecessary, and a waste of public money, but providing scenic footage for TV.]

(14) The last trial ended in a fiasco of provisional dismissal of all three charges on 14 September 2006. [It was the Prosecution case that was a fiasco. From June 2004 to September 2006 there were 42 Hearings over 27 months, all of which BE attended.
At only 3 did any business take place--the central witness, M, twice gave evidence for 5 minutes: it was so confused and contradictory (and obviously coached) that the judge ordered a site inspection of the apartment. It took 8 attempts to do this. Later, M repeatedly failed to turn up and her supposed mother told the court that she did not want to testify. She was at this time operating openly as a pick-up girl around Santos Street and twice stayed at BE's hotel with different men. The judge had the three policemen subpoenaed to give evidence, but three times they too failed to appear.]

Additionally, Barry had this to say:

Eventually, the judge announced that the defendant too had rights, including that of a speedy trial. It was clear that the prosecution had nothing to offer.

These set-ups are regular occurrences in Angeles but they are not intended to appear in the media or become trials. The foreigner victim, once a girl is inveigled into his room, is expected to open the door in a towel then, when told he is trouble, to hand over P50,000 or so and quietly leave the country. This one seems to have been bungled and the victim (BE) stood up to it.
He is still doing so despite a "Trial by Media" which is no less than a perversion of justice and a contempt for the Judicial Process.
How can it be lawful to hand over alleged evidence--illegally obtained-- to TV channels and NGOs who have nothing to do with the proceedings beyond their presumptuous, arrogant, bigoted and self-appointed importance?
This pressure on the Court is a ghastly and ugly mixture of political correctness, malice, sanctimonious prurience and sensationalism, in order to push political agendas and gain a gullible audience. Fair-minded people should oppose it and support due process.

seven · 10-25-2006, 07:01 AM

someone bought the judge out? happens in the U.S. too sometimes specially when they play golf and shit together ;)

suicidemessiah · 10-25-2006, 07:04 AM

happens to all country i guess

CuriousToyBoy · 10-25-2006, 07:05 AM

Perspective into endemic corruption in the PI society .....

THE POLICE: An old joke about four guys meeting in a airport bar

1st guy from Canada said: "Our Mounties are very efficient. If there is a robbery, they are there within 15 minutes."

2nd guy from England said: "Mate, if there is a robbery in England the Bobbies are there in less than 10 minutes."

3rd guy from the USA said: "My neighbor was robbed last year and the police were there in only 5 minutes!"

4th guy was from the Philippines. He said: "If there is a robbery in the Philippines, the police are already there!."

Ask anyone who has lived there or lives there .. interesting place it is.

Love the place, but the system is FUBAR, no question.

2c

Grapesoda · 10-25-2006, 07:05 AM

this is why I don't go to 3rd world countries

d00t · 10-25-2006, 07:11 AM

Wow....... I am speechless

carol.prime · 10-25-2006, 07:19 AM

Sad but true

NinjaSteve · 10-25-2006, 08:14 AM

it happens anywhere

BluewireAngie · 10-25-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by seven

someone bought the judge out? happens in the U.S. too sometimes specially when they play golf and shit together ;)

as long as you have money, connections and power I think you can have your own laws...

AsianRain · 10-25-2006, 08:28 AM

You have to be VERY UNLUCKY or VERY STUPID (i.e. reckless high profile) to get yourself into a mess like that in Asia - especially the Philippines.

ryuken · 10-25-2006, 08:31 AM

Why even be in a third world country like the Philippines?

So many better places to live.

BlueWire · 10-25-2006, 08:34 AM

There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there...

...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me

Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery

With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities

...just watch your back

BlueWire · 10-25-2006, 08:39 AM

There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there...

...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me

Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery

With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities

...just watch your back

BlueWire · 10-25-2006, 08:40 AM

There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there...

...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me

Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery

With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities

...just watch your back

donross · 10-25-2006, 08:52 AM

hehehe..nice triple post... but true..

CuriousToyBoy · 10-25-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me

Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery

I lived in the "Wild West" out in Angeles City, and EXACTLY the same is true.

The place and people are not the problem - I loved the place, the people I at least sort of understood.

The "authorities" (loosest use of the word possible) ARE the problem.

$5 submissions · 10-25-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

there are lots of fantastic business opportunities

...just watch your back

You can say that again. Three times, actually

Ace_luffy · 10-25-2006, 05:19 PM

i saw that news many times on our country...
but even that's a crime here the philippines , if you have a moneys... you can escape on the accusasions....

squishypimp · 10-25-2006, 05:20 PM

that hapeens in the USA every so often too.

BlueWire · 10-25-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

You can say that again. Three times, actually

Gene, I'm probably going to be down in your neck of the woods in Jan '07. Hopefully you'll let me buy you a beer

...or 2 or 3

San Miguel doesn't taste quite the same @ $4.00/beer as it does at 50 cents

DjSap · 10-25-2006, 06:16 PM

sure it sucks...but then again its good to know that one can get away with the help of money...

BlueWire · 10-25-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSap

sure it sucks...but then again its good to know that one can get away with the help of money...

Its kind of a catch 22...

If you have money ...sure you can get away with stuff. But at the same time, if authorities smell money then they are going to want to have their piece of the pie.

If you like the mob mentality then its great. You're not a true P-I-M-P til you have police and politicians on pay roll right?

rodney25 · 10-26-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

this is why I don't go to 3rd world countries

But that aint th only thing those thridworld countries could show. Opportunities are still there as long as you know where to go and what exact thing to do.

ryuken · 10-26-2006, 09:22 AM

Good luck with that, for me the cons outweigh the pros.

Cash · 10-26-2006, 11:26 PM

At least their government doesn't torture foreign prisoners ...

Webmistress - Doreen · 10-26-2006, 11:32 PM

what else is new... sigh...

Major (Tom) · 10-26-2006, 11:41 PM

sounds more like costa rica than the flips.

I remember in costa rica i couldnt even get my gag on without the po po showing up. heheheehe

Duke

CuriousToyBoy · 10-26-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cash

At least their government doesn't torture foreign prisoners ...

Oh yes they do.

Bet on it.

Webby · 10-26-2006, 11:56 PM

You know if the Barry Edwards in that article is a UK citizen in his early 60's??

Webby · 10-26-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

sounds more like costa rica than the flips.

I remember in costa rica i couldnt even get my gag on without the po po showing up. heheheehe

Duke

Big deal is pedo shit here - the promise 16 years minimum. Last major pedo case lasted around 5 years with pressure on the US to give up the perp - he's now convicted in Costa Rica and in a jail cell.

Webby · 10-27-2006, 12:04 AM

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RETIRED math teacher Barry Edwards

Yea.. sounds like the same Barry Edwards. He's been committing offenses since the 70's (at least) and some folks would like to lay their hands on him in the UK and have a chat.

Major (Tom) · 10-27-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Big deal is pedo shit here - the promise 16 years minimum. Last major pedo case lasted around 5 years with pressure on the US to give up the perp - he's now convicted in Costa Rica and in a jail cell.

The whores down there lie if their mouth is moving.

unreal. In the phillipeans, even though manilla is the proverbial genital wart of this planet, it's second to none for whoring.

Duke

DWB · 10-27-2006, 01:04 AM

He was either a) fucking around with the wrong people. b) fucked over the wrong person / whore. c) really was fucking little girls (not hard in AC) and he got away with it.

Shit like that does not "just happen" to you.

I'm betting on fucking little girls. AC is a hot bed for minors.

Webby · 10-27-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

He was either a) fucking around with the wrong people. b) fucked over the wrong person / whore. c) really was fucking little girls (not hard in AC) and he got away with it.

Shit like that does not "just happen" to you.

I'm betting on fucking little girls. AC is a hot bed for minors.

I'd hate to take that bet DWB

Just checked - it is the same Barry Edwards and he has a series of convictions for child abuse/rape. He's also one of these guys who boasts about it and forms organizations blah to legalise pedo activity - he's on another planet.

CuriousToyBoy · 10-27-2006, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Yea.. sounds like the same Barry Edwards. He's been committing offenses since the 70's (at least) and some folks would like to lay their hands on him in the UK and have a chat.

Interesting spin on things .....

DWB · 10-27-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

I'd hate to take that bet DWB

Just checked - it is the same Barry Edwards and he has a series of convictions for child abuse/rape. He's also one of these guys who boasts about it and forms organizations blah to legalise pedo activity - he's on another planet.

I knew it!

A man just doesn't get caught up in some shit like that unless he is into some shady shit in the first place.

Outlinezero_yourmofoLOLO · 10-27-2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWire

...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me

Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery

With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities

...just watch your back

. Got that right, makati is pretty safe, but it is just like any other city or town here. Just depends on where or what part of the town will you go.

travs · 10-27-2006, 03:02 AM

i think that happens anywhere...

fibble · 10-27-2006, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

I lived in the "Wild West" out in Angeles City, and EXACTLY the same is true.

The place and people are not the problem - I loved the place, the people I at least sort of understood.

The "authorities" (loosest use of the word possible) ARE the problem.

i agree with you...

faxxaff · 11-11-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianRain

You have to be VERY UNLUCKY or VERY STUPID (i.e. reckless high profile) to get yourself into a mess like that in Asia - especially the Philippines.

I don't think so. A friend just made a casting for a non-nude pictorial 2 weeks ago for a advertising campaign of a hotel with girls in bikinis at the pool bar having drink and he was arrested right away for asking IDs of legal age to see if models were able to verify they are able to sign a legal agreement. The poor guy spend 2 days in jail for attempting to shoot legal non-nude content .... and they would not let him go without a 'generous fine'. The authorities over there in the Phills are really after any source of money at the moment.

DWB · 11-11-2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

I don't think so. A friend just made a casting for a non-nude pictorial 2 weeks ago for a advertising campaign of a hotel with girls in bikinis at the pool bar having drink and he was arrested right away for asking IDs of legal age to see if models were able to verify they are able to sign a legal agreement. The poor guy spend 2 days in jail for attempting to shoot legal non-nude content .... and they would not let him go without a 'generous fine'. The authorities over there in the Phills are really after any source of money at the moment.

Damn!

faxxaff · 11-11-2006, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Damn!

If you are a foreigner you are always guilty and you never ever get out without paying a fine. Even if someone posts he won a legal battle, I am sure he paid a price ....

marko13 · 11-11-2006, 02:56 PM

it is happening everywhere....

CuriousToyBoy · 11-11-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

I don't think so. A friend just made a casting for a non-nude pictorial 2 weeks ago for a advertising campaign of a hotel with girls in bikinis at the pool bar having drink and he was arrested right away for asking IDs of legal age to see if models were able to verify they are able to sign a legal agreement. The poor guy spend 2 days in jail for attempting to shoot legal non-nude content .... and they would not let him go without a 'generous fine'. The authorities over there in the Phills are really after any source of money at the moment.

150% True !!

2HousePlague · 11-11-2006, 06:16 PM

Bad man doing bad things in a bad place --

2hp

10-25-2006, 06:53 AM	#1
CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	An Insight Into Filipino Justice ..... THIS IS REPRODUCED FROM ANOTHER SITE.... I MAKE NO COMMENT AS TO THE STORY BELOW, I DID KNOW THE GUY IN PASSING WHEN I LIVED THERE, AND HE, TO MY ESTIMATION, WAS NOT ANYMORE THAN ANY OTHER SEX-ORIENTED EXPAT I MET IN MY TIME IN THE PHILLIPINES, YOUNG GIRLS SURE, BUT NOT A PEDO. THE STORY THOUGH, GIVES AN INSIGHT INTO THE CORRUPTION AND POLICE MENTALITY ... A STORY MANY CAN DUPLICATE IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. AS THEY SAY, HE WITH THE PESOS HAS THE SAY SO .... I was surprised in mid-September to see a news report on the TV in Ireland about the case against Barry Edwards being dismissed. I was more surprised that many people in Angeles City hadn't heard this news that was rebroadcast half a world away almost every hour, all day long. RETIRED math teacher Barry Edwards has walked free from court in the Philippines, despite local police claiming they had video evidence of him abusing children. Police said they found Edwards in his bedroom with a 14-year-old girl and claim in his possession was a box of photographs and videos of him abusing underage girls. Some of the video footage was even aired on television in the Philippines. The trial collapsed after a key witness failed to turn up to the trial, and video evidence was not submitted by the prosecution. Edwards was tracked down by anti-pedophile campaigner Father Shay Cullen, who claimed he had to pay police to assist him. Edwards denies the charges against him and says he has been framed by the police. As of mid-September 2006, all charges against Barry have been dismissed. Barry has rarely commented on the case publicly, on the advice of his lawyers, since several of the interviews he did grant to various media outlets (BBC, Reuters, GMA-7 TV) were heavily edited and presented a rather biased, sensationalist point-of-view. The info below was originally post by Big Al on the adult members site Asian Escapades http://www.asianescapades.com/ On 11 October Barry gave a copy of the comments below. Here, then, are Barry's own comments and replies (in brackets, [ ]) to some of the statements and accusations that, to date, have gone unanswered and uncontested: __________________________________________________ _______________ (1) On 24 July 2003, Barry Edwards trawled the bars on Fields looking for under-age girls [BE had not been to a bar for three days] (2) He took three girls back to his hotel [Around 4 pm, three girls knocked on his apartment door, uninvited and unexpected. Two of them, E and R, he knew slightly as well-known street (that is, not from the bar) prostitutes. The third girl, M, he had never seen before. All three have since become notorious for set-ups] (3) He raped M while E and R waited in another room for their turn to be raped [E and R asked him to give M money for sex. He said no but after a hard-luck story agreed to talk to her. E and R waited outside (below) with the police.] (4) The police caught him in bed with M, aged 14. [After only about 5 minutes, he answered a knock and stepped outside, fully clothed, onto the walkway, where squatted R. Two men in ordinary clothes jumped on him from behind the door. He threw them off and called out for security. A third man, also in ordinary clothes, put his gun to BE's head and said "Let us in or I'll kill you." A dozen hotel staff finishing duty witnessed this from below.] (5) A sex video featuring the girl E was showing "in plain view on a TV" [A complete invention and a coincidence worthy of Doctor Zhivago and a belief in fairies.] (6) Many "sex videos" were found in the apartment [The police, who had not announced themselves as such and forgot in their excitement to arrest BE, had no arrest warrant and no search warrant. Many things were stolen from the apartment, such as TVs, a DVD player, a very pornographic electric fan (which even appears on the official list!) shoes and clothes (some of which were given to the girls!) through to about 200 pounds in cash (which strangely did not appear on the list).] (7) BE was the center of a gang supplying Europe with "sex videos" [A fantasy from a repressed mind. Tens of thousands of people around the world make films of their love-making with a consensual partner. These are private and nobody else's business.] (8) Thousands of "pornographic" photos of women were found. [Many normal remembrance photos were stolen. Millions of people around the world take glamour photos of willing models. Normal heterosexual men get pleasure from seeing an attractive female body nude. It is not "dirty" and no big deal. When private it is, again, nobody else's business; when commercial, such things are freely available in supermarkets and other places in the Philippines, where there is, in fact, no legal definition of "pornography".] (9) BE faced charges of Pedophilia [The three charges were of rape (which then carried the death penalty) with all three girls, on separate occasions. They were dismissed at preliminary hearing. This was because the charges were preposterous, and there was no evidence of rape nor interest (by the girls) in pursuing them.] (10) BE escaped justice by bribing the police to drop the case. [It was not an option for the police; the case was in court! In fact, soon after the dismissals, they were so frustrated that they raised new charges, using the same incident and personnel, completely at the other end of the scale. These were of "being in the company of a minor...in a public or private place" (amazing that such a bad law--Political Correctness gone mad, since its only logic is the presumption of an intended crime in a person's head--can exist) and "showing pornography to minors". Unlike rape charges, these are bailable.] (11) He then ran away and hid. [BE lived openly in Puerta Galera for ten months and visited Angeles several times.] (12) Expeditions to Palawan and Boracay failed to find him. [A simple message to his lawyer that new charges were extant was all that was needed for him to report to the Court.] (13) A dramatic operation by fearless channel GMA 7, re-arrested him. [Melodramatic, unnecessary, and a waste of public money, but providing scenic footage for TV.] (14) The last trial ended in a fiasco of provisional dismissal of all three charges on 14 September 2006. [It was the Prosecution case that was a fiasco. From June 2004 to September 2006 there were 42 Hearings over 27 months, all of which BE attended. At only 3 did any business take place--the central witness, M, twice gave evidence for 5 minutes: it was so confused and contradictory (and obviously coached) that the judge ordered a site inspection of the apartment. It took 8 attempts to do this. Later, M repeatedly failed to turn up and her supposed mother told the court that she did not want to testify. She was at this time operating openly as a pick-up girl around Santos Street and twice stayed at BE's hotel with different men. The judge had the three policemen subpoenaed to give evidence, but three times they too failed to appear.] Additionally, Barry had this to say: Eventually, the judge announced that the defendant too had rights, including that of a speedy trial. It was clear that the prosecution had nothing to offer. These set-ups are regular occurrences in Angeles but they are not intended to appear in the media or become trials. The foreigner victim, once a girl is inveigled into his room, is expected to open the door in a towel then, when told he is trouble, to hand over P50,000 or so and quietly leave the country. This one seems to have been bungled and the victim (BE) stood up to it. He is still doing so despite a "Trial by Media" which is no less than a perversion of justice and a contempt for the Judicial Process. How can it be lawful to hand over alleged evidence--illegally obtained-- to TV channels and NGOs who have nothing to do with the proceedings beyond their presumptuous, arrogant, bigoted and self-appointed importance? This pressure on the Court is a ghastly and ugly mixture of political correctness, malice, sanctimonious prurience and sensationalism, in order to push political agendas and gain a gullible audience. Fair-minded people should oppose it and support due process. __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

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CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	Perspective into endemic corruption in the PI society ..... THE POLICE: An old joke about four guys meeting in a airport bar 1st guy from Canada said: "Our Mounties are very efficient. If there is a robbery, they are there within 15 minutes." 2nd guy from England said: "Mate, if there is a robbery in England the Bobbies are there in less than 10 minutes." 3rd guy from the USA said: "My neighbor was robbed last year and the police were there in only 5 minutes!" 4th guy was from the Philippines. He said: "If there is a robbery in the Philippines, the police are already there!." Ask anyone who has lived there or lives there .. interesting place it is. Love the place, but the system is FUBAR, no question. 2c __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

10-25-2006, 07:19 AM	#7
carol.prime Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 6,960	Sad but true __________________ Prime Outsourcing \| offshore staffing solutions \| manual labor \| employee leasing \| full time employees starting at $695.00/month = managed and dedicated icq.: 309570461 live chat

10-25-2006, 07:05 AM	#5
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	this is why I don't go to 3rd world countries

10-25-2006, 07:11 AM	#6
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	Wow....... I am speechless

10-25-2006, 08:14 AM	#8
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	it happens anywhere __________________ ...

10-25-2006, 08:28 AM	#10
AsianRain Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Asia Posts: 68	You have to be VERY UNLUCKY or VERY STUPID (i.e. reckless high profile) to get yourself into a mess like that in Asia - especially the Philippines.

10-25-2006, 08:31 AM	#11
ryuken Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 109	Why even be in a third world country like the Philippines? So many better places to live.

10-25-2006, 08:34 AM	#12
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there... ...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities ...just watch your back

10-25-2006, 08:39 AM	#13
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there... ...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities ...just watch your back

10-25-2006, 08:40 AM	#14
BlueWire Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,628	There is a public perception that 3rd world nations such as the Philippines are dangerous because there is a lot of poverty amongst the people....My friends and relatives ask me all the time if I feel in any danger when I'm there... ...The truth of the matter is however that in terms of common people...I feel safer in downtown Makati than any other US city I've visited. However, the cops worry that crap out of me Even the meter maids down there are fully equipped with artillery With all that being said...It is my favorite place to visit in the world. The people are the nicest you will ever meet, the weather is fantastic (for most parts of the year), the country-side is gorgeous, and there are lots of fantastic business opportunities ...just watch your back

10-25-2006, 08:52 AM	#15
donross Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,295	hehehe..nice triple post... but true.. __________________ Email: [email protected] \| Skype: ross.alcazar

10-25-2006, 05:19 PM	#18
Ace_luffy www.creationcrew.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM CREATIONCREW.COM Posts: 12,105	i saw that news many times on our country... but even that's a crime here the philippines , if you have a moneys... you can escape on the accusasions.... __________________ ++ Adult and Mainstream Websites Designs \| 10 banners for only $50 \| html5 Banners ++ email : [email protected] Telegram : https://t.me/creationcrew \| HTML5/Responsive Site - Div/CSS - ElevatedX - NATs - Wordpress

10-25-2006, 05:20 PM	#19
squishypimp PostMaster General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,781	that hapeens in the USA every so often too. __________________ Signature For Sale

10-25-2006, 06:16 PM	#21
DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	sure it sucks...but then again its good to know that one can get away with the help of money... __________________ Blog Themes, TGP Design, Writing Services, Grunt Work ICQ: 66871495

10-26-2006, 09:22 AM	#24
ryuken Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 109	Good luck with that, for me the cons outweigh the pros. __________________ So much for lurking...

10-26-2006, 11:26 PM	#25
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	At least their government doesn't torture foreign prisoners ... __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

10-26-2006, 11:32 PM	#26
Webmistress - Doreen Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cloud nine Posts: 513	what else is new... sigh... __________________ ICQ: 352784711 MSN: [email protected] AIM: doreencjtraffic YM: doreen_cjtraffic Over 3,900 Adult DVDs!

10-26-2006, 11:41 PM	#27
Major (Tom) Noticing Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,164	sounds more like costa rica than the flips. I remember in costa rica i couldnt even get my gag on without the po po showing up. heheheehe Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

10-26-2006, 11:56 PM	#29
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	You know if the Barry Edwards in that article is a UK citizen in his early 60's?? __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

10-27-2006, 01:04 AM	#33
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	He was either a) fucking around with the wrong people. b) fucked over the wrong person / whore. c) really was fucking little girls (not hard in AC) and he got away with it. Shit like that does not "just happen" to you. I'm betting on fucking little girls. AC is a hot bed for minors.

10-27-2006, 03:02 AM	#38
travs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,631	i think that happens anywhere...

11-11-2006, 02:56 PM	#43
marko13 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: www.lvpshosting.com Posts: 7,512	it is happening everywhere.... __________________ We are responsible for your hosting ... Enjoy in your life. Shared hosting from $3.95 Europe Linux VPS plans from $11.37 http://www.LVPSHosting.com

11-11-2006, 06:16 PM	#45
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	Bad man doing bad things in a bad place -- 2hp __________________ tada!