Question about Reality Cash.... - GoFuckYourself.com

tranza · 10-24-2006, 11:40 AM

Any chances you guys start showing 1st page clicks instead of "qualified clicks"? (which is the same as join page clicks for those who don't know it)

Also, could you show inside your affiliates area which sites are converting better each week or so? I'd love to see that... What are the best converting sites right now btw?

Thanks...

Ross · 10-24-2006, 11:42 AM

I'd like to see 1st page as well instead.

tranza · 10-24-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

I'd like to see 1st page as well instead.

I don't see why ANY webmaster would rather see "Qualified" hits instead of 1st page clicks....

rockbear · 10-24-2006, 12:16 PM

Good Idea Tranza...I would like to see it too

tranza · 10-24-2006, 12:39 PM

Bump for Loryn or Ice or Rochard

Nismo · 10-24-2006, 12:44 PM

I would like to see those things too. The fact that they dont show them is why I don't promote them.

bdld · 10-24-2006, 12:59 PM

it's not extremely important to me since i know how many clicks go out anyway, but displaying uniques is a must nowadays.

tranza · 10-24-2006, 01:37 PM

No answer?

kenny · 10-24-2006, 01:49 PM

I think every other sponsor that I use counts clicks different.

Doctor Dre · 10-24-2006, 01:50 PM

Yeah i fucking hate that too... show 1st page uniques or at WORSE 1 st page clicks...

Doctor Dre · 10-25-2006, 04:22 PM

bump bump ;)

DaddyHalbucks · 10-25-2006, 04:25 PM

Reality Cash is rockin' !

The site that converts the best for me is MILF Cruiser.

marketsmart · 10-25-2006, 04:45 PM

yeah thats a good idea!

Jace · 10-25-2006, 04:47 PM

wow, I was just now in their affiliate area grabbing links.....i had no clue they didn't count first page uniques

I will hold off on putting links up til I see if this is changed...I fucking hate sponsors that do that shit...the only reason sponsors do it, is to make ratios look better

kenny · 10-25-2006, 04:54 PM

I wouldn't be all

"I'm not promoting your site because you don't count first page clicks"

Jace · 10-25-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

I'm not promoting your site because you don't count first page clicks"

there are literally thousands of sponsor out there, 10-20 for every niche, an affiliate has such options these days regarding who they promote that if one sponsor doesn't do things exactly like they want them to, they can move on to the next sponsor that does

squishypimp · 10-25-2006, 05:20 PM

the reality cash team is the best!

tranza · 10-26-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by squishypimp

the reality cash team is the best!

Get off my thread surfer...

Come on guys, I can't believe nobody will answer this thread!

Ice? Loryn? Where are you?????

SomeCreep · 10-26-2006, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

Any chances you guys start showing 1st page clicks instead of "qualified clicks"? (which is the same as join page clicks for those who don't know it)

Also, could you show inside your affiliates area which sites are converting better each week or so? I'd love to see that... What are the best converting sites right now btw?

Thanks...

As I understand it, a "qualified hit" is not a join page hit, it is simply when the surfer clicks any link after reaching the first page of the tour.

I too would prefer to see first page uniques instead of qualified hits.

tranza · 10-26-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

As I understand it, a "qualified hit" is not a join page hit, it is simply when the surfer clicks any link after reaching the first page of the tour.

I too would prefer to see first page uniques instead of qualified hits.

Well, it seems it's not going to happen since we didn't get any reply....

Sly · 10-26-2006, 11:08 AM

I always thought qualified was second page.

Anyway, the only real thing I care about is that they show sales. I don't judge things based on conversions. I judge based on money made per work done.

Who cares if one site converts at 1:100 but the traffic is impossible to get when you can convert 1:800 with another site that has tons of available traffic?

Eric · 10-26-2006, 11:48 AM

Sorry for the delay in the reply guys I have been slammed getting many of the new things ready that we have for you guys in the coming months.

With that said. What you are seeing are not Join page hits. We are showing you any qualified click. So instead of showing you RAW clicks which can get inflated for many reasons. We show you qualified surfers who actually hit the page and click something: Join page, Trailer, Members Entrance, anything.

This is common practice.

tranza · 10-27-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Tender Thighs

Sorry for the delay in the reply guys I have been slammed getting many of the new things ready that we have for you guys in the coming months.

With that said. What you are seeing are not Join page hits. We are showing you any qualified click. So instead of showing you RAW clicks which can get inflated for many reasons. We show you qualified surfers who actually hit the page and click something: Join page, Trailer, Members Entrance, anything.

This is common practice.

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the reply.

I know it's common practice to show the conversion based on 2nd page clicks (or qualified clicks like you said). But most sponsors ALSO show the 1st page clicks. That's why I was asking if you guys could show that also (just add a row before Qualified Clicks showing 1st page clicks, keeping the conversion rate like you guys currently do). Would that be possible to do?

Also, how about showing the best converting sites, like you guys did before? That's a very nice addition t the program, and I think it would help to boost up the traffic and sales for you guys.

These are just constructive criticism, I like you guys as sponsors and I hope to send you more and more sales in the future, as long as you keep giving me the tools to do it and to better control my traffic.

lopez · 01-18-2007, 01:43 PM

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I just realized the issue that tranza raised, myself. I could not care less about who and how many click what and how much on any tour, what I am interested in is the end conversion what my traffic is worth. I send you X amount of surfers, Im interested in knowing what X gives me when working with your program, not what Y ("qualified" hit) is giving me.

So, bump again to raise the issue to see unique hits aswell as the term qualified hit, which is only interesting for the site owners to tweak the tours and see how well your it converts/interests people to stay or leave.

SmokeyTheBear · 01-18-2007, 02:52 PM

put me on the list of people who liked it before realitycash switched to second page click counting..

bring back first page uniques

This is not a PLUG for spacash but if you wanna see kickass stats go see how they do theirs . , unique , second / raw / joins / broken down by country , the works..

*ps hourly stats might be pushing it but they help me personally isolate downtime with a sponsor or my own site.( cecash has this )

lopez · 01-18-2007, 04:32 PM

*bump*...

Chio · 01-18-2007, 04:35 PM

What I do and may be an easy solution for you is to send your clicks through a domain or link redirection script. Then use those numbers to determine the raw number of clicks versus joins.

It serves another purpose as well. If a program goes down I just change the link once in the script and all the links going to it are automatically updated.

No more changing links on thousands of pages if a sponsor goes out.

tranza · 01-18-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

What I do and may be an easy solution for you is to send your clicks through a domain or link redirection script. Then use those numbers to determine the raw number of clicks versus joins.

It serves another purpose as well. If a program goes down I just change the link once in the script and all the links going to it are automatically updated.

No more changing links on thousands of pages if a sponsor goes out.

You can't do that if you're using galleries to promote your sponsors. Not a single big TGP/MGP would allow it.

lopez · 01-18-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

You can't do that if you're using galleries to promote your sponsors. Not a single big TGP/MGP would allow it.

he meant changing it in the php/perl code, not on each actualy gallery page.

seriously, is there no one who really cares about this only showing qualified hits? (except those doing as chio suggest) I would say its a freaking big deal! if you dont know what you are selling your traffic for. Then it doesnt matter if its $20pps or $40pps

looky_lou · 01-18-2007, 08:27 PM

It has always bothered me that they count this way.

Of coarse it didn't bother me as much when I was making sales equal to Nasty Dollars. But for the past 6-8 months Nasty Dollars is selling 9:1 over Reality Cash.

I am sending approximately the same traffic and promoting the same ways but sales have dropped to almost nothing.

I would like to know how much traffic I am actually sending though.

DaddyHalbucks · 01-18-2007, 08:29 PM

It would be helpful.

Even so, Reality Cash is tops.

Scottish Guy · 01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

DaddyHalbucks you have spammed your ref code twice in this thread, Every thread I see you in you spam ref codes get a fucking life

Jace · 01-18-2007, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

What I do and may be an easy solution for you is to send your clicks through a domain or link redirection script. Then use those numbers to determine the raw number of clicks versus joins.

It serves another purpose as well. If a program goes down I just change the link once in the script and all the links going to it are automatically updated.

No more changing links on thousands of pages if a sponsor goes out.

phpadsnew is GREAT for that

he-fox · 01-18-2007, 09:13 PM

Showing uniques would be nice for conversion comparison, but after careful analysis, I am now analyzing how much $/gallery I make with a sponsor. That´s the real productivity. No more tricky sponsor conversion ratios for me.

kenny · 01-18-2007, 09:27 PM

wasn't it around the time of this thread that RC cranked us up to $40 PPS even on console free tour options?

Realitycash rocks

kenny · 01-18-2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by he-fox

Showing uniques would be nice for conversion comparison, but after careful analysis, I am now analyzing how much $/gallery I make with a sponsor. That´s the real productivity. No more tricky sponsor conversion ratios for me.

Thats probably the best way to do it.

Just keep track of your own units to base pay.

All sponsors seem to count clicks different anyway so it's difficult to compare stats across programs.

None of them are relative to each other

10-24-2006, 11:40 AM	#1
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Question about Reality Cash.... Any chances you guys start showing 1st page clicks instead of "qualified clicks"? (which is the same as join page clicks for those who don't know it) Also, could you show inside your affiliates area which sites are converting better each week or so? I'd love to see that... What are the best converting sites right now btw? Thanks... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-24-2006, 12:39 PM	#5
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Bump for Loryn or Ice or Rochard __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-24-2006, 12:44 PM	#6
Nismo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 4,977	I would like to see those things too. The fact that they dont show them is why I don't promote them. __________________ i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

10-24-2006, 01:37 PM	#8
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	No answer? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-24-2006, 01:49 PM	#9
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I think every other sponsor that I use counts clicks different. __________________ 7

10-24-2006, 11:42 AM	#2
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	I'd like to see 1st page as well instead.

10-24-2006, 12:16 PM	#4
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	Good Idea Tranza...I would like to see it too

10-24-2006, 12:59 PM	#7
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	it's not extremely important to me since i know how many clicks go out anyway, but displaying uniques is a must nowadays.

10-25-2006, 04:25 PM	#12
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Reality Cash is rockin' ! The site that converts the best for me is MILF Cruiser. __________________ Boner Money

10-25-2006, 04:45 PM	#13
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	yeah thats a good idea!

10-25-2006, 04:47 PM	#14
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	wow, I was just now in their affiliate area grabbing links.....i had no clue they didn't count first page uniques I will hold off on putting links up til I see if this is changed...I fucking hate sponsors that do that shit...the only reason sponsors do it, is to make ratios look better

10-25-2006, 04:54 PM	#15
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I wouldn't be all "I'm not promoting your site because you don't count first page clicks" __________________ 7

10-25-2006, 05:20 PM	#17
squishypimp PostMaster General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,781	the reality cash team is the best! __________________ Signature For Sale

10-26-2006, 11:08 AM	#21
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,327	I always thought qualified was second page. Anyway, the only real thing I care about is that they show sales. I don't judge things based on conversions. I judge based on money made per work done. Who cares if one site converts at 1:100 but the traffic is impossible to get when you can convert 1:800 with another site that has tons of available traffic? __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

10-26-2006, 11:48 AM	#22
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Sorry for the delay in the reply guys I have been slammed getting many of the new things ready that we have for you guys in the coming months. With that said. What you are seeing are not Join page hits. We are showing you any qualified click. So instead of showing you RAW clicks which can get inflated for many reasons. We show you qualified surfers who actually hit the page and click something: Join page, Trailer, Members Entrance, anything. This is common practice. __________________ No One

01-18-2007, 01:43 PM	#24
lopez Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 299	Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I just realized the issue that tranza raised, myself. I could not care less about who and how many click what and how much on any tour, what I am interested in is the end conversion what my traffic is worth. I send you X amount of surfers, Im interested in knowing what X gives me when working with your program, not what Y ("qualified" hit) is giving me. So, bump again to raise the issue to see unique hits aswell as the term qualified hit, which is only interesting for the site owners to tweak the tours and see how well your it converts/interests people to stay or leave.

01-18-2007, 02:52 PM	#25
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	put me on the list of people who liked it before realitycash switched to second page click counting.. bring back first page uniques This is not a PLUG for spacash but if you wanna see kickass stats go see how they do theirs . , unique , second / raw / joins / broken down by country , the works.. *ps hourly stats might be pushing it but they help me personally isolate downtime with a sponsor or my own site.( cecash has this ) __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

01-18-2007, 04:32 PM	#26
lopez Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 299	bump...

01-18-2007, 04:35 PM	#27
Chio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ: 39-183769 Posts: 8,002	What I do and may be an easy solution for you is to send your clicks through a domain or link redirection script. Then use those numbers to determine the raw number of clicks versus joins. It serves another purpose as well. If a program goes down I just change the link once in the script and all the links going to it are automatically updated. No more changing links on thousands of pages if a sponsor goes out. __________________ I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7! RIP Texas Dreams Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

01-18-2007, 08:27 PM	#30
looky_lou Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,771	It has always bothered me that they count this way. Of coarse it didn't bother me as much when I was making sales equal to Nasty Dollars. But for the past 6-8 months Nasty Dollars is selling 9:1 over Reality Cash. I am sending approximately the same traffic and promoting the same ways but sales have dropped to almost nothing. I would like to know how much traffic I am actually sending though. __________________ PUSSY - PUSSY - PUSSY! Wet & Puffy - Wet & Pissy - We Like To Suck Puffy Cash

01-18-2007, 08:29 PM	#31
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	It would be helpful. Even so, Reality Cash is tops. __________________ Boner Money

01-18-2007, 08:33 PM	#32
Scottish Guy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 416	DaddyHalbucks you have spammed your ref code twice in this thread, Every thread I see you in you spam ref codes get a fucking life

01-18-2007, 09:13 PM	#34
he-fox Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 2,884	Showing uniques would be nice for conversion comparison, but after careful analysis, I am now analyzing how much $/gallery I make with a sponsor. That´s the real productivity. No more tricky sponsor conversion ratios for me.

01-18-2007, 09:27 PM	#35
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	wasn't it around the time of this thread that RC cranked us up to $40 PPS even on console free tour options? Realitycash rocks __________________ 7