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				Give me one reason to push 12clicks sites
			 
			The designs are nice. I admit that but its the content that sells, not the designs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I see absolutely no reason to push his sites as there are about 10000 other sites out there with better content. It looks like he a got a discount deal for a bunch of 1996 dvd's. The content is fucking horrible. Why are so many people (if i have to believe his thread) sending him traffic. Give me one good reason. I cant find any.  | 
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		 I actually agree, the designs are SMOKIN,  but to be honest, the part in the terms about them canning accounts for forum posts kind of gets to me....I have never trashed a program on the boards, but what if I get into an arguement and he doesn't like my views? do I get cancelled? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 They are new. Biggest reason 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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			did he put a gun to your head saying please push my sites??? just don't and thats it if you need advise as to why not then ermn who would wan't your traffic anyways? 
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		 francks just running his mouth of because his "friends" got their 12clicks account cancelled with something like 100 bucks in. no big deal franck. keep wasting your life. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Simple. Don't promote his program Franck. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 franck why dont you do something worthwile like having a crusade against zango or something. Something that is worthwile. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 More... #4 - 12clicks is, if anything, detail oriented. It's going to be a well-run program with well-maintained sites, period. #5 - Surfers are always looking for something new to wank to. This is virgin territory at the moment, the time to promote it is right now. #6 - It's 12clicks man! Don't break his rules and you could get kidnapped by horny cannibal girls and still make money.* *Remember Ron, 12hornycannibalgirls.com was MY idea. :D 
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 To address both in this one post. I have owned a programmed and worked closely over the years with others that have built them.It's a never ending task.Somewhere you just have to launch it and then continue to build it.Which is exactly what they will do. Some sites will work,those you expand..some won't. Look at the oldest and most successful programs,none of them started with everything.But the ones that have lasted are the ones that invested properly. #2-Your reputation as a businessman would have to be solid gold.And I would have to know you personally to be sure of that. But if you were just going to start a program today,and all I know of you is what I read here.The answer would be no.I wouldn't try the program.And this comment is a broad comment.There are many programs I will never use based entirely on board personality.If you met me at a show,you would already know me from my board personality.I talk and act the same in real life as I type words here.  | 
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		 And you are saying Ron's rep is solid gold? You have to be kidding man...he stole SO fucking much affiliate money from NON cheaters it would be insane to say his rep is solid gold. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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