Does Zango traffic convert? - GoFuckYourself.com

Brujah · 10-14-2006, 02:19 PM

How does it convert? Is it more profitable buying it from Zango than say Choker, GTS/Consolebroker, or Adwords?

Brujah · 10-15-2006, 08:15 AM

All the Zango threads are seriously tempting. I wouldn't be surprised if their traffic buys have skyrocketed recently. Their per-click rates will have just gotten higher than before.

martinsc · 10-15-2006, 08:17 AM

let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...

Brujah · 10-15-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by martinsc

let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...

And if I bought traffic from Zango, there's a good possibility that lots of the traffic you just bought would be intercepted by Zango on behalf of me. So all of the traffic brokers are getting fucked too.

fetishblog · 10-15-2006, 09:17 AM

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

tranza · 10-15-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

All the Zango threads are seriously tempting. I wouldn't be surprised if their traffic buys have skyrocketed recently. Their per-click rates will have just gotten higher than before.

I couldn't agree more...

cutievids · 10-15-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

amen to that brotha

RawAlex · 10-15-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

Geez, you really miss about 90% of the game. Someone clicks a dating banner, say for AFF. When AFF opens, a new windows comes over the top now for Sexsearch (served by zango) and it has to be handled before the surfer can go back to his original intention. But since he was looking for dating, if he wasn't watching the screen closely, he might think that what is in the zango popup window is what he really wanted.

It isn't just about jumping cookies, but also about taking the surfer away from their original course and redirecting them to sponsors that aren't going to pay you.

Alex

Brujah · 10-15-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

Yes, at least the way I understand it. If correct, I could for example bid on your keywords and your domain names and Zango infected surfers would see my ads/popups in front of yours, and could click on to what I want them to see while possibly never even seeing your site after clicking away.

It's not just sales lost due to tracking, it's your traffic being intercepted altogether too.

PussyTeenies · 10-15-2006, 12:28 PM

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squishypimp · 10-15-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Geez, you really miss about 90% of the game. Someone clicks a dating banner, say for AFF. When AFF opens, a new windows comes over the top now for Sexsearch (served by zango) and it has to be handled before the surfer can go back to his original intention. But since he was looking for dating, if he wasn't watching the screen closely, he might think that what is in the zango popup window is what he really wanted.

It isn't just about jumping cookies, but also about taking the surfer away from their original course and redirecting them to sponsors that aren't going to pay you.

Alex

agreed zango just covers over the surfers windows with their own targetted advertising.

RawAlex · 10-15-2006, 12:43 PM

squishy, the thing is: If the site in the window is the same as the intended site, then a cookie could also be overwritten. It is a double edged sword.

jayeff · 10-15-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

If you think this is only about cookie tracking, you clearly haven't been doing much reading. The cookie issue only becomes relevant at all if the surfer doesn't buy from anyone during the current visit but does later: and then it is only an issue if Zango showed the same sponsor as you were working with

The more important issue is that because your surfers see other sites before the ones you intend them to see, your sales are going to be stolen, no matter what tracking method is used. Add to that the further impact (if you are running a clean site in particular and accepting lower payments for doing so) of additional consoles on your visitors. If only a single extra site appears, that is in effect one more console. There is nothing to prevent that window spawning more consoles, when your visitors attempt to close it. That has been reported as happening.

squishypimp · 10-15-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

squishy, the thing is: If the site in the window is the same as the intended site, then a cookie could also be overwritten. It is a double edged sword.

which ultimately screws the adult webmaster who originally sent traffic because his ad and hard earned traffic just was lost.

fuzebox · 10-15-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

URL tracking can easily be rewritten as well... And psssst: "sessions" require cookies to work

RawAlex · 10-15-2006, 02:43 PM

Fizebox, php sessions don't always require cookies, as the info is also in the system for a period of time. Only php 3.x.x version sessions absolutelyl require cookies. A system can be worked that requires no cookies at all.

Remember, the cookie thing is probably only about 20% of the deal. The other 80% is programs appearing over your click, with similar products that distract the surfer into buying from a competitor. Puting sexsearch up over AFF means that some of the people will get confused and sign up to sexsearch because it's what they are seeing in front of them.

SEXSEACH SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HOW THEY DO BUSINESS.

eurabia · 10-18-2006, 04:15 AM

and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".

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Originally Posted by martinsc

let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...

u-Bob · 10-18-2006, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eurabia

and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".

Looks like you have no idea how to use/filter traffic.

Barefootsies · 10-18-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales.

polle54 · 10-18-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by eurabia

and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".

How come we have people buying for $15k to non tgp sites?

Do you think they just wake up a morning saying over the next two month I wanna trow $15k out of the window or is it might possible that someone actually manage to profit from this because they have a little knowledge on how to handle this kind of traffic opposite you faggot.

Of course you can't do it by just sending to a crap hosted gallery otherwise each and every idiot on earth would do so.

You fail at this because it requires a brain as everything else does.

polle54 · 10-18-2006, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

Looks like you have no idea how to use/filter traffic.

You are 100% right there u-Bob

Keith Smith · 10-18-2006, 08:51 AM

As our 7 year anniversary approaches we will be having a Traffic Sale. The price will be $0.50/1K. Please contact Ronaldo for futher details.

Keith Smith
CEO Zango, Inc.

Yanks_Todd · 10-18-2006, 10:20 AM

seems to me in the long run that Zango will be a really great and terrific idea for..........Zango.

k0nr4d · 10-18-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Fizebox, php sessions don't always require cookies, as the info is also in the system for a period of time. Only php 3.x.x version sessions absolutelyl require cookies. A system can be worked that requires no cookies at all.

Thats only half-right. If you aren't using cookies, you have to pass the session variable in the query string.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	squishy, the thing is: If the site in the window is the same as the intended site, then a cookie could also be overwritten. It is a double edged sword.

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Fizebox, php sessions don't always require cookies, as the info is also in the system for a period of time. Only php 3.x.x version sessions absolutelyl require cookies. A system can be worked that requires no cookies at all. Remember, the cookie thing is probably only about 20% of the deal. The other 80% is programs appearing over your click, with similar products that distract the surfer into buying from a competitor. Puting sexsearch up over AFF means that some of the people will get confused and sign up to sexsearch because it's what they are seeing in front of them. SEXSEACH SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HOW THEY DO BUSINESS.

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Keith Smith Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28	As our 7 year anniversary approaches we will be having a Traffic Sale. The price will be $0.50/1K. Please contact Ronaldo for futher details. Keith Smith CEO Zango, Inc.

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