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Brujah 10-14-2006 02:19 PM

Does Zango traffic convert?
 
How does it convert? Is it more profitable buying it from Zango than say Choker, GTS/Consolebroker, or Adwords?

Brujah 10-15-2006 08:15 AM

All the Zango threads are seriously tempting. I wouldn't be surprised if their traffic buys have skyrocketed recently. Their per-click rates will have just gotten higher than before.

martinsc 10-15-2006 08:17 AM

let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...

Brujah 10-15-2006 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 11080068)
let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...

And if I bought traffic from Zango, there's a good possibility that lots of the traffic you just bought would be intercepted by Zango on behalf of me. So all of the traffic brokers are getting fucked too.

fetishblog 10-15-2006 09:17 AM

If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

tranza 10-15-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11080060)
All the Zango threads are seriously tempting. I wouldn't be surprised if their traffic buys have skyrocketed recently. Their per-click rates will have just gotten higher than before.

I couldn't agree more...

cutievids 10-15-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

amen to that brotha

RawAlex 10-15-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

Geez, you really miss about 90% of the game. Someone clicks a dating banner, say for AFF. When AFF opens, a new windows comes over the top now for Sexsearch (served by zango) and it has to be handled before the surfer can go back to his original intention. But since he was looking for dating, if he wasn't watching the screen closely, he might think that what is in the zango popup window is what he really wanted.

It isn't just about jumping cookies, but also about taking the surfer away from their original course and redirecting them to sponsors that aren't going to pay you.

Alex

Brujah 10-15-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

Yes, at least the way I understand it. If correct, I could for example bid on your keywords and your domain names and Zango infected surfers would see my ads/popups in front of yours, and could click on to what I want them to see while possibly never even seeing your site after clicking away.

It's not just sales lost due to tracking, it's your traffic being intercepted altogether too.

PussyTeenies 10-15-2006 12:28 PM

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squishypimp 10-15-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11080427)
Geez, you really miss about 90% of the game. Someone clicks a dating banner, say for AFF. When AFF opens, a new windows comes over the top now for Sexsearch (served by zango) and it has to be handled before the surfer can go back to his original intention. But since he was looking for dating, if he wasn't watching the screen closely, he might think that what is in the zango popup window is what he really wanted.

It isn't just about jumping cookies, but also about taking the surfer away from their original course and redirecting them to sponsors that aren't going to pay you.

Alex

agreed zango just covers over the surfers windows with their own targetted advertising.

RawAlex 10-15-2006 12:43 PM

squishy, the thing is: If the site in the window is the same as the intended site, then a cookie could also be overwritten. It is a double edged sword.

jayeff 10-15-2006 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

If you think this is only about cookie tracking, you clearly haven't been doing much reading. The cookie issue only becomes relevant at all if the surfer doesn't buy from anyone during the current visit but does later: and then it is only an issue if Zango showed the same sponsor as you were working with

The more important issue is that because your surfers see other sites before the ones you intend them to see, your sales are going to be stolen, no matter what tracking method is used. Add to that the further impact (if you are running a clean site in particular and accepting lower payments for doing so) of additional consoles on your visitors. If only a single extra site appears, that is in effect one more console. There is nothing to prevent that window spawning more consoles, when your visitors attempt to close it. That has been reported as happening.

squishypimp 10-15-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11081391)
squishy, the thing is: If the site in the window is the same as the intended site, then a cookie could also be overwritten. It is a double edged sword.

which ultimately screws the adult webmaster who originally sent traffic because his ad and hard earned traffic just was lost.

fuzebox 10-15-2006 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

URL tracking can easily be rewritten as well... And psssst: "sessions" require cookies to work :winkwink:

RawAlex 10-15-2006 02:43 PM

Fizebox, php sessions don't always require cookies, as the info is also in the system for a period of time. Only php 3.x.x version sessions absolutelyl require cookies. A system can be worked that requires no cookies at all.

Remember, the cookie thing is probably only about 20% of the deal. The other 80% is programs appearing over your click, with similar products that distract the surfer into buying from a competitor. Puting sexsearch up over AFF means that some of the people will get confused and sign up to sexsearch because it's what they are seeing in front of them.

SEXSEACH SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HOW THEY DO BUSINESS.

eurabia 10-18-2006 04:15 AM

and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 11080068)
let's say i'll stick with www.TrafficHolder.com...


u-Bob 10-18-2006 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 11101855)
and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".

Looks like you have no idea how to use/filter traffic.

Barefootsies 10-18-2006 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fetishblog (Post 11080316)
If people would quit tracking shit in cookies and go to sessions or url tracking, would this even be an issue? Lets quit living in 1995 with cookies and find a new way of tracking sales. :)

:winkwink:

polle54 10-18-2006 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurabia (Post 11101855)
and get 0 sales. what a fucking idiot spammer. that traffic does not fucking BUY!!!!!!! idiot fuck faggot. It can only be used to crapfeed to your "trade partners".


:error :error :error

How come we have people buying for $15k to non tgp sites?

Do you think they just wake up a morning saying over the next two month I wanna trow $15k out of the window or is it might possible that someone actually manage to profit from this because they have a little knowledge on how to handle this kind of traffic opposite you faggot.

Of course you can't do it by just sending to a crap hosted gallery otherwise each and every idiot on earth would do so.

You fail at this because it requires a brain as everything else does.

:2 cents:

polle54 10-18-2006 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 11102014)
Looks like you have no idea how to use/filter traffic.

You are 100% right there u-Bob :thumbsup

Keith Smith 10-18-2006 08:51 AM

As our 7 year anniversary approaches we will be having a Traffic Sale. The price will be $0.50/1K. Please contact Ronaldo for futher details.

Keith Smith
CEO Zango, Inc.

Yanks_Todd 10-18-2006 10:20 AM

seems to me in the long run that Zango will be a really great and terrific idea for..........Zango. :(

k0nr4d 10-18-2006 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11081967)
Fizebox, php sessions don't always require cookies, as the info is also in the system for a period of time. Only php 3.x.x version sessions absolutelyl require cookies. A system can be worked that requires no cookies at all.

Thats only half-right. If you aren't using cookies, you have to pass the session variable in the query string.


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