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jayeff 10-22-2006 07:26 AM

I hope Brujah is right. I guess whether you believe Aga's sudden departure from this thread indicates something positive or negative (since it could be seen either way) depends on whether you had made assumptions about him from the off.

I must admit that this thread has been niggling me. Not because in its own right it isn't valid: simply because of the wider context. And it's not the only one. Within many of the threads about scumware, we have gone rambling off at various tangents to the point where inevitably interest faded and business carries on for the thieves just as before.

Somewhere in the drama, most people seem to lose sight of the reality that some sponsors and some fellow affiliates are helping themselves to money from everyone else's wallets. How many more years will it be before more people grow up enough that this kind of issue finally moves past being an excuse to sig whore or build post counts (or simply ignore), to become something we automatically act upon?

In the meantime, the only way those who are serious now have any hope of achieving anything is if they focus on one issue or even one sponsor at a time, and keep trying to drive the message home. And however much it goes against the grain for individual "entrepreneurs" to work in concert, doing so is the only way they can possibly achieve anything more than empty gestures. This year alone I have dropped sponsors for supporting content theft, providing discounts to review sites and now for being involved with scumware. That makes me feel better, but I'm not naive enough to believe it has made the slightest difference to the sponsors themselves.

Someone needs to start bringing direction to all of this if these dramas are ever going to become something more effective.

Hentaikid 10-22-2006 07:38 AM

I reported rapidshare to adsense several times back when they had it, I suppose I wasn't the only one because it eventually stopped using them, I tried reporting them to paypal due to the porn but I don't want to do it within my account and the only paypal addy I have is the phishing report box. If anyone knows a good email to report porn use in paypal that would be a good idea too.

I'm sorry Aga but rapidshare allows anyone to upload files, it's pretty logical that it's mainly used to pirate porn. They don't even have a takedown form for copyright holders.

Reporting to the german authorities probably is a good idea too, especially with some really obscene files that get uploaded there sometimes

DamageX 10-22-2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 11130309)
I'm sorry Aga but rapidshare allows anyone to upload files, it's pretty logical that it's mainly used to pirate porn.

Porn and various other kinds of copyrighted material.

Lord Aga 10-22-2006 01:44 PM

Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.

The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.

I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)

SmokeyTheBear 10-22-2006 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11131815)
Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.

The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.

I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)

:thumbsup :thumbsup now that i trust

DamageX 10-22-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11131815)
Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.

The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.

I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)

I wouldn't bet against you on that one. :)

jacklaidlaw 10-22-2006 03:01 PM

Well done Aga

pornonada 10-22-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11132200)
Well done Aga

what? That he is still sellling the adds on maybe the biggest torrent site?
You are a joke!

pornonada 10-22-2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11132447)
what? That he is still sellling the adds on maybe the biggest torrent site?
You are a joke!

damn, sorry man, i have overseen the posts before you. again i'am really sorry and didn't see what your post was referred to!!!

pornonada 10-22-2006 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11131815)
Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.

The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.

I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)

sounds good, but honestly, what's the difficult to remove it that it takes already a week and as it seems longer??

I agree on the AFF thing, and that's the reason i will remove each banner i have from each of my sites. Not that it doesn't matter at all but i don't want to be affilated with such sponsors too, not to talking about their affilation with zango. I'am with you on this, but as long as you have that spot there you have done not much than promises so far.

Pleasurepays 10-22-2006 05:03 PM

aga is a good guy that has been around since the beginning. anyone who doesn't know that, is either a n00b or a troll... end of story.

DamageX 10-22-2006 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11132547)
sounds good, but honestly, what's the difficult to remove it that it takes already a week and as it seems longer??

They probably have a reseller contract with etology, which I'm sure he has to have a lawyer review, in order to pull out of. Otherwise it might be them gettuing threatened with a lawsuit. :)

pornonada 10-22-2006 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11133179)
They probably have a reseller contract with etology, which I'm sure he has to have a lawyer review, in order to pull out of. Otherwise it might be them gettuing threatened with a lawsuit. :)

i doubt a lawsuit from the biggest copyright infrigment website would have any chance of success. It's more than understandable to cut whatever contract is made until it's clear they are just and only illegal, but than again, i'am not a lawyer.

Lykos 10-22-2006 07:59 PM

this really sux big time...

DamageX 10-22-2006 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11133260)
i doubt a lawsuit from the biggest copyright infrigment website would have any chance of success. It's more than understandable to cut whatever contract is made until it's clear they are just and only illegal, but than again, i'am not a lawyer.

I was referring to NetpondAds having a reseller contract with etology and getting sued by them for breach of contract. Either way, it does appear that he's looking into getting this matter taken care of.

tony286 10-22-2006 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 11098229)
I don't really understand this tread, the situation is well known. Make a blog, draw lots of traffic for your affiliates, have people post copyrighted stuff and claim you have no part in that deal.

It takes only one real infringement lawsuit and only one blog owner or free server provider do some jail time and the whole system is going to fall within weeks.

Rapidshare is based in Germany, the legals situation there does not really support what they are doing. I bet that a decent entertainment lawyer could get them shut down in a heartbeat and have their president do a nice 18 months in prison, not for infringement in this case, but for distribution of pronography.

Here is my solution: Everyone who complains here puts 100 bucks in an account, we form a corporation that represent webmaster's interests, we retain a top notch attorney with an international law firm ,and kick ass. One time.

excellent point and if a group formed I would want to be in

pornonada 10-23-2006 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11133561)
I was referring to NetpondAds having a reseller contract with etology and getting sued by them for breach of contract. Either way, it does appear that he's looking into getting this matter taken care of.

Doesn't make sense because netpondads and etology are the same people!!!!

pornonada 10-26-2006 03:14 AM

uhmmm, rapidshare is still the #1 spot ot netpondads.com :(

pornonada 10-28-2006 06:08 AM

and still nothing done on netpondads.com, they are still advertising one of the biggest torrentsites (rapidshare.de) :(

Kre8t0r 10-28-2006 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11131815)
Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.

The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.

I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)

Now THAT is how shit should be handled!! Props to Aga, good to see some of the old school folks handling business. :thumbsup

pornonada 10-29-2006 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 11174462)
Now THAT is how shit should be handled!! Props to Aga, good to see some of the old school folks handling business. :thumbsup

yes, would be good if he does what he promises, but he HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING so far against it, have this in mind please, so far it's only 3 weeks promises, nothing else! Will see how long it takes until they stop supporting rapidshare.de .........

pornonada 11-05-2006 07:48 AM

3 weeks left and still NO action from netpondads. Still selling ads for that pirate torrent site.

Somehow i have a feeling that nothing will be handled as Aga loudly promised!

Maybe netpondads wants to wait until this site gets shoot down by the authorities and meanwhile making some bucks with the US$ 4000 Spots they broker there????

pornonada 11-08-2006 08:42 AM

wednesday bump,

going forward the 4th week without any action from Aga and netpondads/etology

jacklaidlaw 11-08-2006 08:48 AM

I thought he had stopped doing ads for them. Its a sad day when you have to lie aboutshit you have no intention of doing

AGA SUCKS DONKEY DICK

pornonada it is not a torrent site it is filehosting site for illegal content but well done for staying on the case I forgot about this thread

pornonada 11-08-2006 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11270782)
I thought he had stopped doing ads for them.

He didn't so far, it's still their top-spot there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11270782)
Its a sad day when you have to lie aboutshit you have no intention of doing

Yep, indeed. Even more sad if done by someone claiming to do much for that industry and having principes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11270782)
pornonada it is not a torrent site it is filehosting site for illegal content

thx for the correction. Both Sites are in the same pot on my end and i actually never entered rapidshare.de.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw (Post 11270782)
but well done for staying on the case I forgot about this thread

no problem and don't worry, i won't forget to bump that thread several times per week even if it takes to christmas 2009

Brujah 11-08-2006 01:52 PM

why don't you go to Aga's board and ask him there, in case he hasn't been back here?

pornonada 11-10-2006 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11272769)
why don't you go to Aga's board and ask him there,

because:
- i'am not a member there, neither i see any need to join there
- as i have said it earlier already, it's nothing personal against him, making me post on his board the same issue would bring in some personal-hate-touch in my opinion and that's not what i want to happen.
- my answer and bumps are related to his responses and promises he made in this post and that is why i replied and bump it. As you can see it's not me who has begun this thread. But is there such a thread on his board too??? I doubt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11272769)
in case he hasn't been back here?

is there any need he must come back to read this thread??? He promised and assured serveral times that he will not support Filesharing Sites but still is supporting them. It's not needed to read this thread everyday to take/make the actions needed and to show he is not supporting them, but he doesn't, so it seems it doesn't make much difference if he reads this thread or not as it just seems he doesn't really care about it.

And as there are nearly 4 weeks left i just guess he hopes everything will just forget, just looks like that for me.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-10-2006 05:54 AM

has there been any legal action taken in the past against torrent sites, and p2p by the adult industry?

pornonada 11-11-2006 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts (Post 11285508)
has there been any legal action taken in the past against torrent sites, and p2p by the adult industry?

Saturday morning Bump

Lord Aga 11-11-2006 04:47 AM

I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product.

That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them.

As its so important to you, give me your email address and I`ll forward you my correspondance with them.

pornonada 11-12-2006 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11291442)
I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product.

you are not affilated somehow with them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11291442)
That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet.

No idea why you just remove it and what kind of programming is needed for that, but maybe i miss something of couorse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11291442)
If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them.

What stops you to doing this the last 4 weeks?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11291442)
As its so important to you, give me your email address and I`ll forward you my correspondance with them.

For me only the final result is of some importance so i pesonally would prefer to see the filesharing and/or torrent site adds gone from your program than reading emails containing mostly "if, when, but, than, ...". But feel free to post the important parts here.

pornonada 11-13-2006 04:34 AM

monday bump

Lord Aga 11-13-2006 02:02 PM

What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.

pornonada 11-14-2006 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11305991)
What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.

i checked out the rapidshare site and still saw and still see the adds borkered there. But yes, you are right, it's gone from your selling adds section which is very nice and good to see. Congrats you made it finally.

I'am happy to see you have done what you promised to do! :thumbsup

Brujah 11-14-2006 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11311035)
i checked out the rapidshare site and still saw and still see the adds borkered there. But yes, you are right, it's gone from your selling adds section which is very nice and good to see. Congrats you made it finally.

I'am happy to see you have done what you promised to do! :thumbsup

Will you tell us why you hate Aga or Netpond so much now? It has to be something, if you look at your posts on GFY for the past month.. you've almost never posted anywhere except to bump this thread and keep hammering away at it.

Will you now be doing the same thing for AdultFriendFinder? They're all over the site.

pornonada 11-14-2006 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11311088)
Will you tell us why you hate Aga or Netpond so much now? It has to be something, if you look at your posts on GFY for the past month.. you've almost never posted anywhere except to bump this thread and keep hammering away at it.

Will you now be doing the same thing for AdultFriendFinder? They're all over the site.

Hey, you surprise me again, lol. Please go one page back and look please for the post where i already mentioned that i have nothing against netpond, netpondads, aga or whatever they or him is affilated. I NEVER talked with him, NEVER had ANY relationship of ANY kind with him, NEVER was a member of netpond and ones again (and hopefully the last time) it is/was nothing personally. So please stop thinking i "hate" him as there is honestly NO reason for any bad feelings.

And yes, i don't post much here and even seldomly read here as i principally (with some expections) think it's a waste of time to lunger here around for longer as about only 5% ( just a guess ) of the members here read and post seriuously. So much principally why i don't post much here.

And yes, i will do the same with Adultfriendfinder for supporting Zango, no doubt on this. I just begun yesterday with it and one of their support guys

from my ICQ History:
Quote:

Aff Support Guy asked me if i needed something,

Me:
hi ******, (edit this one as i think the support guy has no vault)

uhmm, not that i have any questions, but following all that discussions about AFF and zango i consider to stop advertising AFF as i honestly don't want to support malware/addware/spyware installers and users and also i don't want to support a program (zango) that takes away my commissions to other people.

AFF Support Guy:
hi alexander. no problem. do whatever you like to do. but let me just tell you this: the article in xbiz about zango is completely based on "if, when, maybe" imaginations. we would never ever steal traffic from our affiliates, because this would be suicide. we will only use zango to compete with illegal ads using keywords such as "adultfriendfinder, alt.com, passion.com and cams.com". we had to start this because others used these protected keywords on google. what happens now is the following: if a web visitor clicks on such an illegal ad he get a parallel add beside this one, showing us. he can then deside by his own where to click on.

Me:
i'am not relying on the articel on xbiz, i rely on common common sense and common logic.
I'am not accusing AFF to steal traffic from it's affilates but accusing AFF supporting zango, which is whithout any doubt stealing from the webmater sites and installing his spyware which hurts the whole honest working industry which i count myself in.

AFF Support Guy:
you might be right. i cannot evaluate this. i can just forward all complaints to my bosses. so they see what my affiliate think. that keeps them in touch with you guys

Me:
i know you can't and didn't await it of course. Just wanted to make a statement that as a honest webmaster i can not applaud AFF for it's support for zango and as we discuss this with other webmaster friends i'am affilated we think about ways how to fight zango and it's of course a solution to boycott zango's supporters as well, even if this causes us temporary looses it will ensure us at least longterm income.

End of Conversation
So i hope you see that i personally will not support zango or it's supporters/users. Same is for videoscash galleries affilates which immediatly get blacklisted and posted on cheaterforums when i come across a site using them. I already begun when updating the html of any of my sites to remove the AFF geo banners i use. As i have a lot of sites this will take some time too, but i will promise as well that i will NOT continue promoting them and continously remove the banners/linkings on ALL my sites without expection!!!

And yes, time to follow a thread/discussion about zango and/or AFF, agreed :2 cents:

P.S.: You should not take every critice someone makes personally, or think it's personally!

pornonada 02-21-2007 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11305991)
What are you bumping for you prick.. Did you not check out the site?

Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry.

just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!

pornonada 02-22-2007 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11953683)
just out of curiousity, did you remove rapidshare.de only for 1 day? I see it again there. Not that it's vital or very important to me, just curious to see what the reasons are you continue to work with file sharing sites after you stated and claimed that much that you do NOT support such sites?!?!

bump :pimp

jayeff 02-22-2007 05:27 AM

Cliff notes:

http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "Show me one example and the whole program is history."

Lord Aga - Oct 17th: "We will not allow ads to be shown on any site that promotes illegal material."

Lord Aga - Oct 22nd: "The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely."

Lord Aga - Nov 11th: "I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product. That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them."

Lord Aga - Nov 13th: "Rapidshare is gone and I`m working on any other file sharing sites that abuse our industry."

It is now February 22nd...

Cyrano 02-22-2007 05:30 AM

I love the AFF, Fleshlight, and SexSearch ads in PureTNA's member area.


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