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DamageX 10-17-2006 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11099242)
Oh.. im not asleep.. as i said before if you can find a single ad on a torrent site that promotes netpondads than the whole program is toast!

So you're brokering ads for that site but the ads don't show up? Sorry, you lost me there...

american pervert 10-17-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11098080)
Show us the proof. Don't just throw out an accusation without backing it up. Is it that hard to include a URL?

how is this? sure looks like netpond is supporting rapidshare.de unless i am missing something.. can someone please explain how netpond isn't supporting rapidshare.de????? im lost, thanks!

http://randompeople.org/gfy/netads.jpg

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:17 PM

americanpervert, way back in post # 64 I acknowledged that.. before you ever joined this thread. as well, pornonada already posted a screenshot. try to catch up next time.

Captain Canada 10-17-2006 08:19 PM

The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Canada (Post 11099543)
The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.

So how's that any different from AFF potentially not being aware of every site their affiliates run their ads on?

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11099560)
So how's that any different from AFF potentially not being aware of every site their affiliates run their ads on?

How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099567)
How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

Yep. So far the only response from Aga has been threatening to sue me. But I guess the verdict on this one isn't out just yet.

Brujah 10-17-2006 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11099584)
Yep. So far the only response from Aga has been threatening to sue me. But I guess the verdict on this one isn't out just yet.

I think you're just bitter. I know you saw him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..

Big difference between the way Aga will do business, and the way certain others will.

DamageX 10-17-2006 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099605)
I think you're just bitter. I know you saw him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..

Big difference between the way Aga will do business, and the way certain others will.

I'm not bitter at all and I am by no means trying to take cheap shots at him. The only reason why I posted in this thread at all was the fact that I found it hilarious for him to call out AFF for the supporting content theft thing, when they broker ads for a site widely known for spreading stolen content. He's been hinting at the fact that I need to find a page displaying illegal stuff which has netpondads on it, and he'll take it down. I'd say I shouldn't have to do that. Simply by facilitating it for that site to make more money by brokering ads for them they're supporting them financially, regardless of where the ads appear. I hope you see my logic behind this. And as I said, if he takes it down from their advertising pages, he has my respect for doing so.

pornonada 10-18-2006 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Canada (Post 11099543)
The main adds for Rapidshare have been coming from etology.com for some time now.

The etotlogy page for Rapidshare is here.

The netpondads page for Rapidshare is here.

The whois info for netpondads.com lists the contact email as [email protected] which you can see here.

If Netpond is brokering etology adds thru their netpond adds they might not be aware of every potential advertiser on their site.


ok, let's put this together again:

- netpondads has several etology.com contact emails in their whois
- technical contact in the whois for netpondads and etology.com is the same, [email protected]
- netpondads IP ( 209.34.86.100 ) and etology.com ( 209.34.86.78 ) seems to be on the same network
===> from what i see they are directly affilated to each other, or even owned by the same people.

now let's check this again:
- netpondads is STILL offering adds for rapidshare.de and maybe some other similar sites on their "Buy Ads" Site for a nice price of US$ 4.000
- on rapidshare.de on the mainsite there is an advertisement from etology.com
- really funny thing is that these advertisment is going to AFF again

So the conclusion is so far:

Mr. Aga complains that AFF ads are on torrent sites, but its fine that his netpondads/etology advertises AFF on such sites, hey, that's somehow some new kind of "circle jerk" in my opinion.

pornonada 10-18-2006 03:31 AM

[QUOTE=Brujah;11099605].... him in this thread at least twice now say whoever is doing it would be "history" and he made no effort to try and dance around it or suggest that he was in favor of it because it was legal, etc.. etc..
[QUOTE]

Uhmmm, but you can still see the spots for rapidshare.de on netpondads.com, right? Seems it's not really urgent to remove as if this would have been the case they could be gone from the whole network there in just minutes i guess.

pornonada 10-18-2006 04:04 AM

uhmm, same people:

netpondads.com contact info:

Corporate Headquarters:
Netpond, Inc.
1065 East Hillsdale Blvd.
Suite 306
Foster City, CA 94404
Main: (650) 357-9900
Support: (650) 357-9900


etology.com contact info:

Corporate Headquarters:
Etology, Inc.
1065 East Hillsdale Blvd.
Suite 306
Foster City, CA 94404
Main: (650) 357-9900
Support: (650) 357-9900

AmateurWealth 10-18-2006 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick Buck (Post 11090267)
somehow i doubt aff and their 100mil+ a year in processing is shaking at the prospect of being called "cunts" on netpond.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH........:)

wjxxx 10-18-2006 06:10 AM

someone got seriosuly owned :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

fris 10-18-2006 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11097749)
Just in case someone missed it, Aga here is bitching about AFF, but they're doing the exact same thing by having NetpondAds broker ads for rapidshare.de, a service commonly used for sharing stolen content.

netpondads is nothing, they just resell etology. when i mentioned that on their forum, my post "magically" went poof.

http://www.etology.com/
http://www.netpondads.com

http://www.etology.com/buying-space.php
http://www.netpondads.com/buying-space.php

pornonada 10-18-2006 11:18 AM

time for a bump, not? I'am the only one interested to hear a response from Mr. Aga ??

american pervert 10-18-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11104394)
time for a bump, not? I'am the only one interested to hear a response from Mr. Aga ??


he's prolly trying to figure out how to sue someone

FM-teem 10-18-2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 11089907)
Tell me how to stop it Aga, I'm all ears....


Video a roller super is pleasant to me :ticking

bobby666 10-18-2006 12:02 PM

maybe adultfriendfinder owns the site

Captain Canada 10-18-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099567)
How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

I agree ... and as we can see from his response .........

woj 10-18-2006 03:34 PM

100........... :arcadefre

pornonada 10-19-2006 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11099567)
How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?

Uhmmm, it's now 2 days since it was stated that netpondads brokers/sells/resells Spots on rapidshare.de and they still continue with it, so are you sure you still think the same like you wrote it that they will take care after they are aware of it???

For me it looks like they care shit about it and support torrent sites!!!!!

As you can still see, rapidshare.de is still their main spot on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

Quotealex 10-19-2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11110125)
Uhmmm, it's now 2 days since it was stated that netpondads brokers/sells/resells Spots on rapidshare.de and they still continue with it...

It could be it's because it's a white label page controled by etology!

Manowar 10-19-2006 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11110125)
Uhmmm, it's now 2 days since it was stated that netpondads brokers/sells/resells Spots on rapidshare.de and they still continue with it, so are you sure you still think the same like you wrote it that they will take care after they are aware of it???

For me it looks like they care shit about it and support torrent sites!!!!!

As you can still see, rapidshare.de is still their main spot on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fece22340d831d

Very Interesting.

The torrent thing has been going on for ages, shut one site down and ten more will pop up. :disgust

pornonada 10-19-2006 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex from Montreal (Post 11110381)
It could be it's because it's a white label page controled by etology!

you didn't read the full thread and realize that etology and netpondads are operated by the same people, did you?

pocketkangaroo 10-19-2006 04:59 AM

Damn, some serious pwnage in this thread.

DamageX 10-19-2006 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 11110429)
Very Interesting.

The torrent thing has been going on for ages, shut one site down and ten more will pop up. :disgust

Of course, as long as there are people prepared to buy ads on the sites and brokers ready to sell them.

Violetta 10-19-2006 06:14 AM

gee that is a lot of free stuff! :(

pornonada 10-19-2006 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar (Post 11110429)
Very Interesting.

The torrent thing has been going on for ages, shut one site down and ten more will pop up. :disgust

maybe, but supporting them hurts our business even more!

Jenny S. 10-19-2006 10:13 AM

While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:

If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).

If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?

DamageX 10-19-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 11112113)
While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:

If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).

If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?

Domain: rapidshare.de
Domain-Ace: rapidshare.de
Nserver: rsdb.rapidshare.de 130.117.156.250
Nserver: rs1.rapidshare.de 80.237.244.50
Status: connect
Changed: 2006-01-20T12:32:17+01:00

[Holder][Admin-C][Tech-C][Zone-C]
Type: PERSON
Name: Christian Schmid
Organisation: RapidTec
Address: Belchenstr. 23
Pcode: 79336
City: Herbolzheim
Country: DE
Phone: +49-7643-933199
Fax: +49-7643-933796
Email: Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by DomainTools.com
Changed: 2005-05-27T06:51:48+02:00

pornonada 10-20-2006 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny S. (Post 11112113)
While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:

If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).

If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?

sure, i'am in with US$ 100 as i earlier already stated, but i suggest someone located in Germany should do the "paperwork"

pornonada 10-21-2006 03:00 AM

uhmmm, what to say, the rapidshare.de spots are still available on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fc4b0cdf87c0e4
so i doubt Mr. Aga was seriously when he said he won't tolerate advertising on torrent sites!

DamageX 10-21-2006 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11124498)
uhmmm, what to say, the rapidshare.de spots are still available on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fc4b0cdf87c0e4
so i doubt Mr. Aga was seriously when he said he won't tolerate advertising on torrent sites!

He was probably serious about suing me though. :Graucho

pornonada 10-21-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 11125841)
He was probably serious about suing me though. :Graucho

hahahaha, yes, seems so. Somehow it's very silent at ones in this thread! :1orglaugh

Brujah 10-21-2006 03:03 PM

It's the weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pull out of the etology thing if they won't cooperate with the removal of rapidshare.

pornonada 10-22-2006 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11127100)
It's the weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pull out of the etology thing if they won't cooperate with the removal of rapidshare.

yes, seems to be more easy to moan about other companies but doing absolutly the same. I'am also sure that netpondads won't remove their top US$ 4000 Ads for Rapidshare. This shows again how some big players which have some influence give a shit about webmasters and affilates!

Brujah 10-22-2006 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornonada (Post 11129639)
yes, seems to be more easy to moan about other companies but doing absolutly the same. I'am also sure that netpondads won't remove their top US$ 4000 Ads for Rapidshare. This shows again how some big players which have some influence give a shit about webmasters and affilates!

No, it shows you can't read the fucking thread. You can't see that his reaction was surprised it was there. You can't see that he's the type of person who would do something about it. You keep bumping it like a stupid troll who can't comprehend the difference between what Aga's said compared to how the other sponsors have responded like Lars and AFF, SexSearch, EpicCash, GalleryTrafficService, and the other GFY'ers who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.

So what do you do? You pick the 1 guy who runs a forum "Good business, not Greedy business" who you'll see IS against this kind of destructive bullshit, and choose to troll him repeatedly INSTEAD of the others.

You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga. :2 cents:

pornonada 10-22-2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11129758)
No, it shows you can't read the fucking thread. You can't see that his reaction was surprised it was there. You can't see that he's the type of person who would do something about it. You keep bumping it like a stupid troll who can't comprehend the difference between what Aga's said compared to how the other sponsors have responded like Lars and AFF, SexSearch, EpicCash, GalleryTrafficService, and the other GFY'ers who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.

So what do you do? You pick the 1 guy who runs a forum "Good business, not Greedy business" who you'll see IS against this kind of destructive bullshit, and choose to troll him repeatedly INSTEAD of the others.

You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga. :2 cents:

you gotta that totally wrong it seems.

First of all i didn't see anyone else using torrent sites for advertise complaining about it and crying loud, but that's exactly what Mr. Aga did. He sells US$ 4.000 Spots for rapidshare.de but complains that AFF adds are shown on such sites, that is what makes this thread interesting, at least for me. Additinally he is threating to sue the one who brought it up that he is just one more of these torrent supporters and nothing else at this moment.

If he was THAT MUCH against such business behaviour, so much against torrent sites, so why are the Adds still there for sell and brokering? I would have awaited at least some kind of "Excuse me, i wasn't aware of this, be sure it's gone in less than 24 hours". If this would be happen, which i guess everybody awaited who readed the full thread it's ok, mistakes happen, just human. But after it doesn't happen for nearly a full week now, so what else can be the conclusion other than he is exactly the same type of group people you descibed with "who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.", not?

It's one thing just to begin such thread, make accuses and than just disapear because you are in the same boat with the other torrent supporters. Hey, i would nothing like to see more than nobody supporting all that scumbags running or promoting torrents, zango, vidoscash and all that shit that hurts us all, but seems there are not many professional webmasters around thinking for the long run.

And yes, i guess i will bump this thread many many many times more, that's my right on a forum. I'am not a sig poster, i seldom post on gfy as there are not many topics of interest for me and i don't have any personal issues with aga or whomever on this board, i don't know him, never talked to him and never was in anyway affilated to him, at least not knowingly, so i have no reason to "bash" him. The only thing i would like to see is an honest answer from him combined with a clear statement that he is not supporting any torrent sites. Doesn't this make any sense to you????

pornonada 10-22-2006 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 11129758)
You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga. :2 cents:

One more thing, you are totally wrong here too man, while many others just moan about such things me and some other webmasters try to make some blacklist of sponsors/programs/websites that support/promote torrents/zango/videoscash and similar programs and you can just be sure that at least me and for sure some other professional webmasters will boycott these sponsors and websites. Not that mine really do matter, but if more follow than there is at least a beginning done. So now i'am curious what you are doing against that matter?? My :2 cents:


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