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Old 10-13-2006, 08:24 PM   #1
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Sarah Zuzanadesigns.... in here please!

ok.. im kinda pissed off. you sent me icq messages a few days ago to contact you via icq or emails. used 2 emails to contact you. i sent a couple of messages on icq but still you haven't reached me. this is bullshit! since you are bumping your toon sale on sell and buy forum then after 3 mins i posted still no answer? i know you are online and you just keep on ignoring 1000$+ you owe us from the gallery designs we worked for you for a couple of months for ragecash. kindly fix this shit!!! im tired of your promises! i keep on getting " I have not forgotten about you" of course you woundn't want to. you know why..

you have to contact me co's i need this problem fixed asap. its october now!!! we stopped working for you last week or january. the program atleast paid you for all the galleries we made. PAY US!!! i hate seeing you selling shit, posting your services here on gfy and other big adult forums and seeing people posting good stuff about you eventhough they know the drama! fucking hypocrites!!!
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:39 PM   #2
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How come there is drama with Zuzana designs that pops up every week on this board? you'd think people would catch on...
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uhmm everyweek? not sure.. but if theres a drama probably it wasn't solved from the previous ones lol
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why would she do free shit for me and good paid design aswell all the time if she is such a scammer?


as always - two sides of the story


if you are soooo worried about it

take it to the lawyers

gfy wont do nothing but piss people off and you WONT see your money
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lawyers? if im from the states. theres no 2 sides of the story here. you can search zuzanadesigns or tenderobject here and other webmasterboard. thats it.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:55 PM   #8
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anyways, if someone owes you money let say 1k$ you won't post it in here? who said she was a scammer. did i? she owe us money for months now. seeing her posting with her services selling shit and stuff is kinda annoying. yes it is! especially when you are trying to fix this off boards but you only get promises sometimes get ignored. who would be happy about that chris?

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why would she do free shit for me and good paid design aswell all the time if she is such a scammer?


as always - two sides of the story


if you are soooo worried about it

take it to the lawyers

gfy wont do nothing but piss people off and you WONT see your money
This isn't the first person who have bitched about them. There have been a bunch of threads and I doubt they are all BS.
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This isn't the first person who have bitched about them. There have been a bunch of threads and I doubt they are all BS.
actually the drama was from months ago but i kept my mouth shut for a long time. i posted this on other boards not on gfy few months ago.
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Good luck getting paid man. Non-payment is a bitch.
yeah it sucks hope we can fix though but not sure. atleast i made a warning.
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yeah it sucks hope we can fix though but not sure. atleast i made a warning.
People still promoted PIB after "warnings" were posted on the boards, all I can say is, there's a sheep born unto GFY every minute.
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damns zuzzana is really a scammer....

dont worry i will bookmarked this then post it on her thread...
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ohh yeah. well, thats biz! too bad!
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damns zuzzana is really a scammer....

dont worry i will bookmarked this then post it on her thread...
well, if they don't pay they're 100% certified scumbags! still want to fix this shit bro... "trying" to fix this for 9 months now!
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What I will say about Tender design is his service is great as are his designs.

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thanks paul

zuzana if you want to fix this icq me or email me. hate drama ekk!
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There are two sides to every story. You didn't tell everyone about the free hosting for months and months on end, the domain names I bought for you, the ebay items I bought for you, the submitting you got because of me. The nights after nights I had to talk you out of suicide when you were drunk out of your mind. That you quoted me a price of 10$ and then invoiced me for 17$once you were finished. That you had tons of errors and weren't around to fix them so I had to fix your mistakes and then you tried to overcharge me for them. That I wrote blog entries for you because your english was bad- the site design I had to refund money on and looked bad in front of a client because you couldn't meet a deadline and kept putting me off and ignoring me and then never finished the design. That I tried to help you sell galleries that you made for a sponsor, but they didn't want to deal with you because you wrote them everyday looking for your money. That I referred you to clients and backed you up when you needed it and got you business because of it. That's why you called me mom, because I took care of you in more ways than I should have.
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Another bump.
Paul I have done sooo many designs for you over 100 galleries with no problems at all........ ALL with no payment up front ...


And you want to talk crap !!!! WOW what a bizz
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There are two sides to every story. You didn't tell everyone about the free hosting for months and months on end, the domain names I bought for you, the ebay items I bought for you, the submitting you got because of me. The nights after nights I had to talk you out of suicide when you were drunk out of your mind. That you quoted me a price of 10$ and then invoiced me for 17$once you were finished. That you had tons of errors and weren't around to fix them so I had to fix your mistakes and then you tried to overcharge me for them. That I wrote blog entries for you because your english was bad- the site design I had to refund money on and looked bad in front of a client because you couldn't meet a deadline and kept putting me off and ignoring me and then never finished the design. That I tried to help you sell galleries that you made for a sponsor, but they didn't want to deal with you because you wrote them everyday looking for your money. That I referred you to clients and backed you up when you needed it and got you business because of it. That's why you called me mom, because I took care of you in more ways than I should have.

ok i told you i can pay for that bullshit you want right (fucking childish!)? i told you, you still owe us almost 1200$ and you can just send atleast 900$ right. probably you didn't get the email or it was ignored. its not about the money sarah its about the principle and ethics.. trying to turn the table again don't you? you owe me money why don't you just pay? this is bussiness right? you're acting like a child here. damn everyone knows that happened on EB but have you settle this problem??? your forum was deleted in EB becuase of this. have you settle the problem after the drama there? no... i gave you enough time to fix this but until now. you are always online here and even on mayors forum but still ignoring me.. telling me "I have not forgotten about you" isn't enough. its been 8-9 months now and still we're talking about this drama. if you really want to fix this you would atleast cooperate with me thats what im doing right? if you were in my situation won't you get pissed? i heard from some people who i know that still works for you is getting paid but why you still owe us money? theres no 2 sides of the story here. this drama was posted in EB months ago. remember? don't try to fool peoplehere and don't even post my private life here. want me to post the bank account you gave me that is for sure a HOAX???

anyways, we agreed on all the dealings we made from lotzadollars, yetishcash, pornpayouts, jaymancash and others.. you didn't even pay me from some paysites i did that didn't went through co's you we're pissed with your clients. although project wasn't finished yeah i just wasted my time!!! it's funny you want me to go there to work for you. pay my apartment and my plane ticket damn you can't even pay a couple of hundreds $$$? you can say want you want but if you still want to ignore me thats fine with me. you are hurting your biz not me... and just want to have what we deserved and i don't want you to scam people again especially designers.

the fact that you can't really design thats why you we're outsourcing design projects to other designers. does your clients especially ragecash know that you we're outsourcing the galleries before? ohh i forgot. all the works we did for you was been approved by YOU so why are you bitching about our work right now? co's you want to turn the blame on me? fuck that! pay me tell you will not heard from me again! don't wait to add you in my siggy.
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Paul I have done sooo many designs for you over 100 galleries with no problems at all........ ALL with no payment up front ...


And you want to talk crap !!!! WOW what a bizz
what a biz? go see a mirror. anyways paul didn't mention something agaisnt zuzanadesigns! what a bizz???? ohh c'mon!!! pay me!
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ok i will repeat!

contact me if you want to settle this if not thats ok.. i don't need promises or excuses! act like an adult!
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ok i will repeat!

contact me if you want to settle this if not thats ok.. i don't need promises or excuses! act like an adult!
Is this pertaining to the order she had with RageCash and outsourced it to you?
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And you want to talk crap !!!! WOW what a bizz
Crap talk, would be that his designs are good? I never said anything against you.
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Is this pertaining to the order she had with RageCash and outsourced it to you?
yep and a lot of other programs. you can see it in my last reply to her.


im going off. have a gig later. see you guys..

zuzana.. email is just a kiss away. icq in sig.
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bump for sunday drama.. zuzana never contacted me so i think they have no plan to fix this bullshit!
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There are two sides to every story. You didn't tell everyone about the free hosting for months and months on end, the domain names I bought for you, the ebay items I bought for you, the submitting you got because of me. The nights after nights I had to talk you out of suicide when you were drunk out of your mind. That you quoted me a price of 10$ and then invoiced me for 17$once you were finished. That you had tons of errors and weren't around to fix them so I had to fix your mistakes and then you tried to overcharge me for them. That I wrote blog entries for you because your english was bad- the site design I had to refund money on and looked bad in front of a client because you couldn't meet a deadline and kept putting me off and ignoring me and then never finished the design. That I tried to help you sell galleries that you made for a sponsor, but they didn't want to deal with you because you wrote them everyday looking for your money. That I referred you to clients and backed you up when you needed it and got you business because of it. That's why you called me mom, because I took care of you in more ways than I should have.
i might have missed it... but anywhere in here do you claim you dont owe him $1000-$1200 that he claims?

sure it sounds like some $$ may need to come off of that for one reson or another... but a lot of the things you claim to have done sound like you did them because you wanted to. not for trade off on money owed for work.

if you were so unhappy with his work why did you stick your neck out??
on one breath you say 'you made me look bad, didnt finish work, had errors, etc' and the next 'i backed you to clients and got you work'

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Paul I have done sooo many designs for you over 100 galleries with no problems at all........ ALL with no payment up front ...


And you want to talk crap !!!! WOW what a bizz
If you take the time to read his post you will see he was giving you a compliment.
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Zuzana, you aren't dealing with this very well.. my suggestions is to get in touch with tenderobject and make some kind of arrangement. 9 months is WAY beyond acceptable, and the more these kind of posts happen, the more business you lose. Makng excuses is defintiely not an acceptable way to deal with the situations.
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i might have missed it... but anywhere in here do you claim you dont owe him $1000-$1200 that he claims?

sure it sounds like some $$ may need to come off of that for one reson or another... but a lot of the things you claim to have done sound like you did them because you wanted to. not for trade off on money owed for work.

if you were so unhappy with his work why did you stick your neck out??
on one breath you say 'you made me look bad, didnt finish work, had errors, etc' and the next 'i backed you to clients and got you work'

Rich
that was i noticed as well. it sounds like she doesn't owe me money becuase she send us a couple of work... it doesn't mean that she doesn't have to pay what she owe us.. it sounds childish really. if i knew this would happen why would we need to spend a lot of time to design for her and in the end she won't pay us becuase she send us clients lol. kinda retard for me. the deal was this "lets do galleries for ragecash and i will pay you for that" not like "lets do galleries for ragecash and i will not pay you for this co's i sent you clients" something is bullshit here.. what i really wanted is to fix this problem. sarah should pay me then i will shut up. thats it. but i think she doesn't have a plan to do so co's i have never heard from her again...
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anyways, just to clear something we made a lot of work for her. i mentioned the programs/cleints weve worked before. we worked as a team in those project not us being slave by her. we made hundreds of galleries for her especially on the ragecash galls.. she told me to do the galls leave a space for desc desc cos she will do that part. we design then she will put the text ads and deliver it to ragecash. thats it. 1000$+ isn't a big chunk of money for a lot of people here but its not the money the priciple and hardwork we did for her is priceless.

this is the thrid time i will repeat this.

if you want to fix this you shoud have had contacted me about this. not send me promises and a hoax bank account!!!
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Tenderobject has done some nice shit for me and I feel bad seeing him wasting time to collect what's due. Good luck bro.
thanks man. yeah ive wasted a lot of effort just to fix this
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Guess we lucked out. They paid us back in installments. Maybe if you ask for a similar plan, you'll get your money back??? Better than no money.
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every phillipine person i have dealt with had so many friggen real life problems they wanted to me to fix, buy, finance or councel on that I actually stopped dealing with them. When I want someone to do a design, that is all I want, I don't want a life story, I don't want to send you stuff, hear about the flash flood, fire, or whatever that swept away your great aunt twice removed.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:02 AM   #40
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Guess we lucked out. They paid us back in installments. Maybe if you ask for a similar plan, you'll get your money back??? Better than no money.
im open with that. well, they sent me 300$ when i contacted mike from webair a few months ago. that was the last one.. im ok with that although see don't answer emails and getting a lot of promises on icqs are pissing me off...

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Old 10-15-2006, 08:03 AM   #41
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every phillipine person i have dealt with had so many friggen real life problems they wanted to me to fix, buy, finance or councel on that I actually stopped dealing with them. When I want someone to do a design, that is all I want, I don't want a life story, I don't want to send you stuff, hear about the flash flood, fire, or whatever that swept away your great aunt twice removed.
so whats the point? please go away in my thread.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:07 AM   #42
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so whats the point? please go away in my thread.
I'm sorry, do you own this board? When you post something on a message board, you open to all opinions. You don't like it...sorry, nothing I can do about that.

Seems you sort of forgot about telling people about the $300 payment huh?
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:08 AM   #43
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300 payment? what? you can contact me if i owe you money. icq 312352846
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:13 AM   #44
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ohh what is 300$ sorry.. you can contact me 312352846
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:16 AM   #45
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:16 AM   #46
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ohh what is 300$ sorry.. you can contact me 312352846
dumbass, YOU said you were paid $300 from zuzanna designs after you contacted Webair. You made it sound like you did all that work and received nothing...you forgot to mention that she/he had sent you $300 so far.

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Old 10-15-2006, 08:21 AM   #47
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dumbass, YOU said you were paid $300 from zuzanna designs after you contacted Webair. You made it sound like you did all that work and received nothing...you forgot to mention that she/he had sent you $300 so far.
ohh whos the dumbass here?? you posted irrelevant issue in my thread and i told you to stay away.. not a big help for both side actually..

anways that 300$ she sent a few months ago was from 1500+ money she owe me. what the fuck are you talking about? you need to atleast read the whole thread asshole!
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:22 AM   #49
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First I would like to truely apologize to Paul I miss read the post ..

Tender I have contacted you several times and you are making this sound like you did 1000's of galleries and never got a dime.. I sent you 1000's 1000's of dollars for your work. There were also several times that the date the galleries were due you did not make the deadline and I had to do the galleries.. You would then get the galleries done so there would be duplicate galleries that i never paid for, but you still charged me even though they were past the deadline...

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you didn't even pay me from some paysites i did that didn't went through co's you we're pissed with your clients
Ok lets talk about what happened here.. I asked you if you could do a paysite for sterlingcash for In Bed With Juliet .. I even did all the extractions for you and asked you to start a logo... It took you well over a month to get this logo and a partial to me and The Client backed out of the project.. You would come on icq were you were so sorry for the time it was taking you to this project..
The tour was not even close to finished and why would you even think you would get paid for what you sent 3 months after the client backed out !!

There are even a few occasions where my clients would come to me because you had been paid for work and they had not seen much results from you ... You would me and ask me not to tell them you were online ( Bikini Guy ) And I ended up doing the entire paysite in one weekend cause he needed it ...

There are soo many other people you have done galleries for and because you do act very childish you didn't get paid for LOTS of galleries .. And what did I do to help you? .. I contacted clients and sold the galleries for you so you were not out that money on your work .. And these were not contracted thru me it was your deal... But again I reached out to help you like i did 100's of times in the past..Whether to help sell your work or to spend HOURS every night on ICQ talking you down when you were drunk and incredibly depressed. I had things I needed to do, but I felt I had to put it aside because of the things you were saying about yourself and your life. I won't go any deeper in it than that.

You have already said that you were paying me for the hosting, etc. You also have never tried to work out anything about that for us to come to a final price. The amount you say you are owed seems to change every other day.
Some of the emails you sent me I couldn't even make heads or tales of because you were so drunk that it wasn't even English. Threatening to post my bank account?? The account number I gave you is completely real. Bikini guy had a problem sending money to the account. MrNiceGuy had problems as well. My account wouldn't send international wires to you for some reason. You can say it's a false account all you want because that is a complete lie.

This is the last time I am posting in this thread to you. The purpose of this thread was for me to come into it. I have done that. It has not been 9 months since you have gotten paid. I've sent you several payments inbetween when we stopped working together and now. You'll be recieving an email from me shortly.

To anyone else coming to their own conclusions about this thread, that is your right. But things go much further below the surface than what you'll read here.
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:26 AM   #50
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