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Old 10-13-2006, 12:49 PM   #1
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Disgreunteled Cam Model At It Again

I got alot of mixed posts about starting a site in my previous post "DISGRUNTELED CAM MODEL SEEKS OPINIONS"

I am trying to start up a small site for my clients, however I really dont want a members area. AS A CAM MODEL what are the pros and cons of having a members type site???

Here I'll start!!


Pros:Easier to advertise

Cons: Put all of my content out there for a low monthly fee rather then charging per min for a live show


I have worked my ass off to become an independent cam model and keep all of my profits except small processing fees. In this case if I had a members site, I would prefer not to do a 50-50 split, however I do not have the recourses to just "start a site myself" and I most certainly do not have 3 grand to dump into a site.

Heres what I am thinking today..... Anyway possible to start up a site (with member area)
and do a 50-50 split on only the members area pics and vids, weekly cam chat or whatever it may be, while keeping all of my profits for pay per view cam shows??? I dont have a problem giving up 50% to a person who can help me succeed, but I do have a problem giving up half of my profits for my cam shows, MY BREAD AND BUTTER as I have worked sooo hard to become independent, and keep a majority of profits, so imo it would be very uncool to give 50% away when i have been successful on my own in that aspect. HELP!!
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:51 PM   #2
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May i add is their any way to do a 50-50 split until site is paid for in full??? The money isnt the issue to me here, It is the fact that i cannot cam forever and i am trying to get into web design and more behind the scenes work and learn for myself as well. Cant do that if u let someone else do it.
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if you made it yourself...youd make more money
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I have worked my ass off to become an independent cam model and keep all of my profits except small processing fees. In this case if I had a members site, I would prefer not to do a 50-50 split, however I do not have the recourses to just "start a site myself" and I most certainly do not have 3 grand to dump into a site.

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I got alot of mixed posts about starting a site in my previous post "DISGRUNTELED CAM MODEL SEEKS OPINIONS"

I am trying to start up a small site for my clients, however I really dont want a members area. AS A CAM MODEL what are the pros and cons of having a members type site???

Here I'll start!!


Pros:Easier to advertise

Cons: Put all of my content out there for a low monthly fee rather then charging per min for a live show


I have worked my ass off to become an independent cam model and keep all of my profits except small processing fees. In this case if I had a members site, I would prefer not to do a 50-50 split, however I do not have the recourses to just "start a site myself" and I most certainly do not have 3 grand to dump into a site.

Heres what I am thinking today..... Anyway possible to start up a site (with member area)
and do a 50-50 split on only the members area pics and vids, weekly cam chat or whatever it may be, while keeping all of my profits for pay per view cam shows??? I dont have a problem giving up 50% to a person who can help me succeed, but I do have a problem giving up half of my profits for my cam shows, MY BREAD AND BUTTER as I have worked sooo hard to become independent, and keep a majority of profits, so imo it would be very uncool to give 50% away when i have been successful on my own in that aspect. HELP!!
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:59 PM   #10
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PICS.....in first post "disgrunteled cam model seeks opinions"
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jim dont have icq im a dinosaur with yahoo lol
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3 gs in a site is very low... and if you want to do business and can't play in the porn 101 league it's gonna be very hard...
I like hard lol btw im young and have nothing but time to learn.
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50/50? your lucky I know some girls doing 30/70 with the girl on the 30% side.

heres question. If the right person can make your income more than what your currently making on a 50/50 would you be greatful? Afterall it probably is their marketing/effort/labor and resources to get you more customers.
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Posting pics for answers is not something i am going to waste my time with, anyone who needs pics without answering is simply not worth talking to.
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heres question. If the right person can make your income more than what your currently making on a 50/50 would you be greatful? Afterall it probably is their marketing/effort/labor and resources to get you more customers.[/QUOTE]

Like i said i have no problem doind a split i would just like to keep all profits from my live cam shows which is my main $$$ maker. A site would help me market and i wouldnt have a problem splitting profits on a member area, but i absolutely will not give up my webcam profits. If i wanted to do that i would work on peekshows.
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Like i said i have no problem doind a split i would just like to keep all profits from my live cam shows which is my main $$$ maker. A site would help me market and i wouldnt have a problem splitting profits on a member area, but i absolutely will not give up my webcam profits. If i wanted to do that i would work on peekshows.
if you were going to use the cam shows as an upsell in the members area maybe but if you were going to include that into the monthly membership of the site which would make more sense then whoever your going to do the split with is going to want a cut.
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Posting pics for answers is not something i am going to waste my time with, anyone who needs pics without answering is simply not worth talking to.
Fair enough. Though keep in mind you're asking others to show you what to do from start to scratch without offering anything in return, and you refuse to do a 50/50 split with someone even though you have limited knowledge and limited resources. You have a model (you), you have minimal traffic (cam members), you have no site, no money, and no website knowledge.
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You seem to be getting a few elements confused.

Key areas:
1. Design.
2. Affiliates.
3. Webmaster.
4. Reasoning.
5. Live Shows.

1. The design of the site, members area, affiliate program, promotional tools is independent. You would hire out such jobs on a per cost basis. No cut here.

2. Affiliates are independent webmasters who send your site traffic. Typically they get 50% of all new sign ups and 50% of those re bills for the life of the customer. These are customers you do not or would not have without them. Some sites offer affiliates a per sign up rate, meaning instead of paying them a percentage for new sign ups they pay a flat fee; Thirty dollars or higher per member is the norm.
Some affiliates if on a rev share system may get upset if they do not also get 50% of inside members area revenue, yet many do not if it helps with site retention. Retention being how long a customer they sent stays a member and re bills. If the site is pay per sign up, then typically do what you want in your members area, it is fair game to you.
You are still fully allowed to send your own traffic and keep 100% of those customers revenue.

3. A webmaster would be someone you hire for either their skills, to manage the site, update the site, bring in additional traffic, use their contacts, or whatever. You can act as your own webmaster if you are willing to learn the ropes. It really is not all that difficult, just take a look around here. You may also just hire someone for a set monthly salary to do certain things you may not be comfortable doing yet, do not have the skills to do, or you do not have the time to do.
Instead of paying a fixed sum, or doing it yourself. You could make an arrangement to let someone do it all for you for a percentage of the site revenue, most often all site revenue. If that is the case they better be bringing a lot to the table.

4. Reasoning for a members site. Aside from the extra income a monthly fee would give you. It also gives a set rate that every members pays even if they do not purchase any live shows that month. Your show buyers would also be getting extra perks such as pictures, and movies they could watch at their leisure. You could interact with them more through posting and whatnot. You would also of course tap into those that do not like live shows but are still interested in you. This area could go on and on.

5. Your live shows can be used within the members area. This would be an up sell. Meaning just because someone becomes a member it does not give them free web cam shows with you privately. Unless of course you desire to offer them. These can be billed independently. You also could set up an alternate URL to direct your own traffic to where people could buy shows without being a member.
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Fair enough. Though keep in mind you're asking others to show you what to do from start to scratch without offering anything in return, and you refuse to do a 50/50 split with someone even though you have limited knowledge and limited resources. You have a model (you), you have minimal traffic (cam members), you have no site, no money, and no website knowledge.
This is why i am here....not to post pics. If somebody wants something in return i would hope it would be more then some amateur no name chix pixxx posted on a forum. However i would be willing to do a service exchange with those who do design : ) If i could also add i am looking for something simple to start with.
http: / / www dot darcy foxx dot com is something that is very simple, to the point and very low maintenence. The point of this post was lost too it seems. Vegasgirl702 will be reincarnated as a man to get some real advice, but will be around to make more freaky posts.
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This is why i am here....not to post pics. If somebody wants something in return i would hope it would be more then some amateur no name chix pixxx posted on a forum. However i would be willing to do a service exchange with those who do design : ) If i could also add i am looking for something simple to start with.
http: / / www dot darcy foxx dot com is something that is very simple, to the point and very low maintenence. The point of this post was lost too it seems. Vegasgirl702 will be reincarnated as a man to get some real advice, but will be around to make more freaky posts.
Post needs pics, bottom line.
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You seem to be getting a few elements confused.

Key areas:
1. Design.
2. Affiliates.
3. Webmaster.
4. Reasoning.
5. Live Shows.

1. The design of the site, members area, affiliate program, promotional tools is independent. You would hire out such jobs on a per cost basis. No cut here.

2. Affiliates are independent webmasters who send your site traffic. Typically they get 50% of all new sign ups and 50% of those re bills for the life of the customer. These are customers you do not or would not have without them. Some sites offer affiliates a per sign up rate, meaning instead of paying them a percentage for new sign ups they pay a flat fee; Thirty dollars or higher per member is the norm.
Some affiliates if on a rev share system may get upset if they do not also get 50% of inside members area revenue, yet many do not if it helps with site retention. Retention being how long a customer they sent stays a member and re bills. If the site is pay per sign up, then typically do what you want in your members area, it is fair game to you.
You are still fully allowed to send your own traffic and keep 100% of those customers revenue.

3. A webmaster would be someone you hire for either their skills, to manage the site, update the site, bring in additional traffic, use their contacts, or whatever. You can act as your own webmaster if you are willing to learn the ropes. It really is not all that difficult, just take a look around here. You may also just hire someone for a set monthly salary to do certain things you may not be comfortable doing yet, do not have the skills to do, or you do not have the time to do.
Instead of paying a fixed sum, or doing it yourself. You could make an arrangement to let someone do it all for you for a percentage of the site revenue, most often all site revenue. If that is the case they better be bringing a lot to the table.

4. Reasoning for a members site. Aside from the extra income a monthly fee would give you. It also gives a set rate that every members pays even if they do not purchase any live shows that month. Your show buyers would also be getting extra perks such as pictures, and movies they could watch at their leisure. You could interact with them more through posting and whatnot. You would also of course tap into those that do not like live shows but are still interested in you. This area could go on and on.

5. Your live shows can be used within the members area. This would be an up sell. Meaning just because someone becomes a member it does not give them free web cam shows with you privately. Unless of course you desire to offer them. These can be billed independently. You also could set up an alternate URL to direct your own traffic to where people could buy shows without being a member.
I remember you from the last post u got my panties soaked this time lol
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I remember you from the last post u got my panties soaked this time lol
Honestly I do not care about your panty dampness, I just care about cash. Every so often I also just like to help out or dispel some of this decade old propaganda.
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Well thanks in either case
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Your welcome, feel free to keep asking questions. Ignore the hate and check the motives. Mine are simple, I may have services you could use when you start or maybe latter, one never knows.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:34 PM   #41
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This is why i am here....not to post pics. If somebody wants something in return i would hope it would be more then some amateur no name chix pixxx posted on a forum. However i would be willing to do a service exchange with those who do design : ) If i could also add i am looking for something simple to start with.
http: / / www dot darcy foxx dot com is something that is very simple, to the point and very low maintenence. The point of this post was lost too it seems. Vegasgirl702 will be reincarnated as a man to get some real advice, but will be around to make more freaky posts.
I have a designer with spare time. I'm willing to trade his services for something of yours. Not particularly cam time, lol. Hit me up on ICQ at 147479144 and we can work something out. I know you said you don't use ICQ, but in this industry it is one of the most necessary tools. Everybody uses it.
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Old 10-13-2006, 03:44 PM   #42
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Hit me up at webmaster at slamdesigns dot com. We can probably work something out with you.
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:10 PM   #43
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Will definately download icq........... thanks for the response slam..

For the record i just want a simple (free for customers) site to start with, not looking to become melissa or brooke. My site that i have now does well for me, but something more professional with my own domain and host rather then using a free host wouldnt hurt a bit. A member area may be a good thing for me in the future but for now I was just seeking opinions.
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:17 PM   #44
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:18 PM   #45
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I got alot of mixed posts about starting a site in my previous post "DISGRUNTELED CAM MODEL SEEKS OPINIONS"

I am trying to start up a small site for my clients, however I really dont want a members area. AS A CAM MODEL what are the pros and cons of having a members type site???

Here I'll start!!


Pros:Easier to advertise

Cons: Put all of my content out there for a low monthly fee rather then charging per min for a live show


I have worked my ass off to become an independent cam model and keep all of my profits except small processing fees. In this case if I had a members site, I would prefer not to do a 50-50 split, however I do not have the recourses to just "start a site myself" and I most certainly do not have 3 grand to dump into a site.

Heres what I am thinking today..... Anyway possible to start up a site (with member area)
and do a 50-50 split on only the members area pics and vids, weekly cam chat or whatever it may be, while keeping all of my profits for pay per view cam shows??? I dont have a problem giving up 50% to a person who can help me succeed, but I do have a problem giving up half of my profits for my cam shows, MY BREAD AND BUTTER as I have worked sooo hard to become independent, and keep a majority of profits, so imo it would be very uncool to give 50% away when i have been successful on my own in that aspect. HELP!!
50/50 of something is better than 100% of nothing. Affiliates will make you money.
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:31 PM   #46
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I like hard lol btw im young and have nothing but time to learn.
Yeah but this is a business and lots of people fail to realise that business is all about the money.

It's easy to earn a living at this but it's hard to become rich. Most people don't re-invest enough.

There are way more variables then the percentage you are running... there is cashflow and profit.

50 % of $1000 = 500
10 % of $100 000 = 10 000

Wich one you rather make ?
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