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bogo 10-13-2006 08:47 PM

Faster loading stats is a must.i havent been able to load stats from previous months for a while now. :Oh crap
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/716/asdbj6.jpg

corvette 10-13-2006 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 11070696)
well, it would work out better program owners had the ability to customize what is on your server.....the program owner gets to create his own unique join forms for each site instead of choosing between a few designs that you all have

we have the ability to do this now, for example, check out the join form at sexkey.com

client support should help you do this, if you are interested, ask them about custom forms

corvette 10-13-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 11071056)
Hi Corvette,
Off topic, I just sent you an email with a question and am posting this so you know its me who sent it. Thanks a lot.

sorry for the confusion :(

that may cause me to change my location to scottsdale/tempe

BV 10-13-2006 09:34 PM

TRACKER ID'S for affiliates would be nice :thumbsup

OneWhoKnows 10-14-2006 03:13 AM

Bump for this important thread!

@corvette or Paul
Are you thinking about alternative payout methods for the new system, or will you stick to US$ checks/US$ wires only?

Varius 10-14-2006 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussianRealitySites (Post 11067040)
2. Counting of Unique Clicks, not only Raw! So, as most of the available scripts do, please distinguish between raw and unique clicks and display a sales per unique ratio.

I knew I forgot something (I prob forgot lots hehe). I definately second this suggestion :thumbsup

jscott 10-14-2006 05:52 AM

give ccbill affiliates credit for their cross sales on the sponsor join pages, i see it tracks our ccbill affiliate id numbers but does not ever give us a split on the trials

anyway of tracking upsells?

jscott 10-14-2006 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 11066362)
1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

jollyperv 10-14-2006 06:00 AM

Would be nice to not have to fill out a form for a simple update of your mailing address. Don't get me wrong, the added security for the most part is definetly a good thing. :)

martinsc 10-14-2006 06:17 AM

1. make it faster :) (less timeouts would be great...)
2. let us affiliates create campains
3. ref link tracking
4. epassporte payouts!!!
5. centralized place to get banners, links, content etc...
6. a nice design would be great

:thumbsup

scottie0779 10-14-2006 09:15 AM

I was excited to see this thread, thanks Trixie for pointing it out! Not to be offensive, but ccbill is the most archaic system still running (although last time I was inside Paycom/Epoch admin/stats, which was a couple years ago, they were actually light years behind) -- which is why I'm so pleased to see changes on the horizon! Yay! Here's my .02 Any of these may already be on the plate, but here they are :)

-- Ability to do transaction lookups (mostly affiliate-side), like by last 5 digits of transaction id. I keep a running log in excel of all ACTIVE subscriptions so I have an idea when rebills are expected, and can then project anticipated income from rebills. The way I have to do this now is, run a lookup for past 30 days, and go through one by one (trial then recurring then rebills) and remove cancelled subscriptions, and add any new trials or recurrings that I may have neglected to add when the sale was actually made. Perhaps even better would be a "Display all active" tool, which would simply display (without duplicating like past lookups does) all active subscriptions from all programs for the affiliate.

-- MAYBE track ALL referring URLS instead of on SALES ONLY. Beautiful feature of nats, I can derive what sites are sending traffic, how much, AND how effective that traffic is. I'm sure this would likely increase the overhead due to added storage requirements on the database files, but it's pretty helpful information and something we get with the software guys (mpa3, nats)

NOTE: To the guys talking about site breakdown within stats remote, right-click CCBill Affiliate, select SHOW BREAKDOWN. If you were meaning breakdown of your own program account, yeah, I don't see where that's an option yet, but surely JB and the crew over there could at least let it break down by subaccount id? That'd be a stats remote update though, not CCB.

The other things are just simple well known issues that I assume are already being fixed and have already been mentioned, like the AGES it takes to run large historical lookups, stop the timeouts, track uniques not raws, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by micker
universal affiliate ID's. Affiliates should have the same ID across the network regardless of the site they are promoting.
Thank God micker! Excellent, of course that'd royally fuck up the 100+ sponsors I already have links hanging out for in millions of places, but going forward this would be the best thing EVER!!! Glad to see it's in progress corv.

All I have for now :)
--Scottie

Mr. Romance 10-14-2006 09:16 AM

I love CCBILL

Mr. Romance

corvette 10-15-2006 09:51 AM

lets keep this going...

BV 10-15-2006 10:29 AM

tracker id's for affiliates

Sarah_Jayne 10-15-2006 10:48 AM

This thread is one of the best on GFY in a while because it is people that actually use a system to makes sales talking in positive terms on how to improve it rather than just throwing negatives around.

corvette 10-15-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc (Post 11080685)
This thread is one of the best on GFY in a while because it is people that actually use a system to makes sales talking in positive terms on how to improve it rather than just throwing negatives around.

Right, thanks for that comment, during this architecture/discovery phase, I just want to make sure that we explore every single suggestion out there. I have a 7 page book with ideas from webmasters (special thanks to Steve Lightspeed for helping with this), but I have seen several additional good ones in this thread, maybe we can squeeze out a few more?

he-fox 10-15-2006 12:01 PM

Not design-related, but please add Epassporte as a payment method to the system. This is what stops me for promoting CCBill only programs. I'm sure that there are so many like me.

FPSAddict 10-15-2006 12:55 PM

hardcoded aff id or query_string
 
I see this perfect world

1. ccbill requests all programs to make a clean tour for affilliates
(no outside links to toplists or anywhere at all).

2. ccbill has a tech support helping(installing) clueless program owners to implement referal tracking using query_string. (no cookie)
so I would have two link codes one for cookie tracking another with query_string tracking. If program owner does it himself the ccbill should validate it before showing it for affilliate.
I would like to get a credit regardless of user's cookie settings or zango.

I would prefer to have a copy of programs tour pages on my site then
I could take care of everyting myself but I guess no program would allow that
because they could not shave then.

So in programs report I would like to see:
1. This program uses query_string to track sales: yes/no
2. this program allow you to host their tours: yes/no
3. this program has a clean tour located at url: yes/no

fuzebox 10-15-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 11059378)
It would be nice if we could view our ccbill (site by site) stats with statremote.

They added that recently... Try right-clicking on "ccbill" in your stats and choose "show breakdown" from the menu :)

HarlotCash Dyker 10-15-2006 02:19 PM

There is a need for the affiliate interface to also include fhg's and other marketing tools that programmes offer (other than just banners which many affiliates don't use - )
And, if new (say) fhg's had been added (say by XYZ cash) during the last time an affiliate had last checked his stats, a notice on the main stats page could then inform him - (Along with any aditional info the programme may want the affiliate to know)
This would 1) insure the affiliate had this news and 2) Cut out the need to email affiliates -

corvette 10-15-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 11070674)
fuck it. I want to resubmit my suggestion. Change your entire company's design to be red. FUCK YEAH!

well get right on that

Hentaikid 10-15-2006 05:26 PM

don't have time to read the whole thread but in case no one else mentions it I'd like the notification emails to have the site name instead of "you made a sale for 43545-2323" or something like that as it does now

cybermike 10-15-2006 09:49 PM

Can you do what lightspeed does and have lifetime credit for affiliates.. For example if I send a signup they stay for 2 months and cancel and 5 months later they sign up again through direct type in.. can we still get the credit?

martinsc 10-16-2006 12:09 PM

bump....

scottie0779 10-20-2006 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 11082676)
don't have time to read the whole thread but in case no one else mentions it I'd like the notification emails to have the site name instead of "you made a sale for 43545-2323" or something like that as it does now

I second that! And if it hasn't already been clearly mentioned, I'd like to see referred affiliate sales with MY $ payout % (my cut) displayed in the main display, not a totally separate area... although I don't see anyone else doing it this way either (ie NATS)... wish they would, actually! You know, it might look something like this:

Transactions for %TODAY% or %DATE_RANGE%
MY referral sales - - - - - - - - - -

MY referred affiliate's sales - - - -

SUM - - - -


***
Same for check reports, as I did see someone else mention earlier

and... BUMP for the best thread on any webmaster board ever. We may actually be accomplishing something here that will directly affect the bottom line. Wow. Never thought I'd see the day! lol

Twisted Dave 10-20-2006 05:58 AM

I dunno but send my money to ePassporte please! Cheques destroy me financially!!! lol

chuvii 10-20-2006 06:05 AM

add refers to stats please - need to see from where surfers comes to paysite

Jakke PNG 10-20-2006 06:29 AM

- Have the possibility to charge euros. (more language options would be neat too, I sort of need finnish joinpages ;))

- When you go live with the new system, please please, let affiliate program owners/NATS/MPA3 etc guys know WELL ahead of time if the new system isn't compatible with the scripts. (like different data from datalink etc) Ideally the 3rd party softwares would work just as they do now though.

DanielS 10-20-2006 07:07 AM

Hi Mark, well, I agree with many of the ideas posted here...I think the most important ones are:

1. One affiliate id for all the client accounts.
2. Faster system where affiliates can check historical stats.
3. Debit cards as a payment option.

I think the actual design is fine :)

coolegg2 10-22-2006 08:20 AM

2 more suggestions Corvette:

1. The ability to search for affiliates by partial name. For example, if you want to make sure that the hypothetical company "Adware Inc" is not an affiliate, you should be able to search for that string or substring. No way to do that now.

2. The ability to override the "Affiliate does not want their address disclosed" option that affiliates are given. Like most programs, I forbid affiliate signups from Russia, China and other countries popular with known scammers, but the fact is that I have trouble enforcing this because affiliates can hide their address from me. You would find that program owners can proactively head off a lot of trouble for CCBill if you removed this option or allowed program owners to override it. I'm not sure why CCBill even offers this option to affiliates; it's just asking for trouble as near as I can tell. At the very least the country corresponding to the address or wire destination should be viewable by the program owner.

Actually 3 suggestions...

3. Very minor, but the email that program owners get when a new afffiliate signs up says "A new partner has just signed up..." As you probably know, that word, "partner", has certain legal connotations and should be changed. I believe this cannot be customized by the program owner. It might also be handy to show the IP address that the affiliate used when they signed up along with the other information already shown in the email.

BV 10-22-2006 09:09 AM

the use of tracker id's for affiliate webmasters

corvette 10-22-2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolegg2 (Post 11130450)
2 more suggestions Corvette:

1. The ability to search for affiliates by partial name. For example, if you want to make sure that the hypothetical company "Adware Inc" is not an affiliate, you should be able to search for that string or substring. No way to do that now.

2. The ability to override the "Affiliate does not want their address disclosed" option that affiliates are given. Like most programs, I forbid affiliate signups from Russia, China and other countries popular with known scammers, but the fact is that I have trouble enforcing this because affiliates can hide their address from me. You would find that program owners can proactively head off a lot of trouble for CCBill if you removed this option or allowed program owners to override it. I'm not sure why CCBill even offers this option to affiliates; it's just asking for trouble as near as I can tell. At the very least the country corresponding to the address or wire destination should be viewable by the program owner.

Actually 3 suggestions...

3. Very minor, but the email that program owners get when a new afffiliate signs up says "A new partner has just signed up..." As you probably know, that word, "partner", has certain legal connotations and should be changed. I believe this cannot be customized by the program owner. It might also be handy to show the IP address that the affiliate used when they signed up along with the other information already shown in the email.

great suggestions, very well thought out

milkit 10-22-2006 10:07 AM

as an affiliate, I want at least the name of the person who joined the program alongside the state. email/address would be preferred :)

BoyAlley 10-22-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkit (Post 11130921)
as an affiliate, I want at least the name of the person who joined the program alongside the state. email/address would be preferred :)

I definately would not want my affiliates to have access to the name, email and physical address of our members.

Sorry, but that's a bad bad idea.

Paul Markham 10-22-2006 11:08 AM

When checking affiliates traffic and sales I have to open a window to see the affiliqates details. How about turning the Affiliates Details link into their name so I do not need to open every window.

Paul Markham 10-22-2006 11:13 AM

Also I woild like to see if a member has joined our site before. Is he new or a returning member?

corvette 10-23-2006 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 11131237)
Also I woild like to see if a member has joined our site before. Is he new or a returning member?

paul, thats a good one

sigurman 10-23-2006 11:00 AM

My suggestion is also to incorporate some nats and mpa3 features.
Program owners could have more tools helping affiliates to promote - gallery generation with ccbill ID it's a MUST.

donnie 10-24-2006 11:53 AM

You should translate joinpages to more languages :2 cents:

Jace 10-25-2006 06:45 PM

bump bump


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