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Dawgy · 06-29-2002, 08:07 PM

hey gang, i have decided to sell a new pc that i don't need.

as most of you know i own a computer store. we mostly build high-end gaming machines, so i had one built for myself. however, i decided i wanted a raid, as well as more of a 'work' pc instead of gaming, and had another one built for myself.

so now i need to sell this one. i thought before i take it all apart and carry it up to the store, id just post some pics and info on here and see if anyone is interested. i'll sell it to a GFY member for a lot less than i will some college kid who comes in my store

http://www.woofmedia.com/pc/

Goonx · 06-29-2002, 08:11 PM

For how much would you sell it to a GFY member ??

hyper · 06-29-2002, 08:12 PM

sweet

Marcus · 06-29-2002, 08:15 PM

hey Dawgy do you have your store online?
I can't get that machine above but I need to buy a new machine, mine current one is very old :(

Dawgy · 06-29-2002, 08:21 PM

price listed is for a GFY member... in the store it'd be marked up a bit more... the monitor alone is about $1600...

marcus.... store isnt online yet

if you want to email me a price range and/or specs, ill see what i can do. dawgy at woofmedia dot com

incidentally, im planning to get the store up & running online within 30 days, and offer rather large discounts to GFY people (spam spam)

SetTheWorldonFire · 06-29-2002, 08:49 PM

Kinda looks like a car show. But, with cumputer parts. Those are nice colors.

Dawgy · 06-29-2002, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
Kinda looks like a car show. But, with cumputer parts. Those are nice colors.

yeah

over the last few months, component manufacturers realized they dont have to make green cards. motherboards, video cards, sound cards... theyre all getting brighter & cooler looking... mainly a result of case mods... this is one of the few PCs we've built that doesnt have a side window & neon inside it.

sasush · 06-29-2002, 09:03 PM

i'll give 1000$

Dawgy · 06-29-2002, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by sasush
i'll give 1000$

um yeah we dont take monopoly money ;)

mjrools23 · 06-29-2002, 09:15 PM

great comp

Brad Mitchell · 06-29-2002, 09:39 PM

ahhhh fucking beautiful man!

Brad

Dawgy · 06-29-2002, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
ahhhh fucking beautiful man!

yes i am, but we're talking about the computer here....

eru · 06-29-2002, 10:31 PM

please contact me on icq dawgy -> 2929686.

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 12:41 AM

$4000, what a hilarious ripoff.

msi kt3 motherboard = $70
antlon xp $= $140
100 gb wd drive = $130
you dont say what kind of ddr ram it is, but at the MOST $130
40x cd-r = $70 max
dvd = $40
geforce ti440 = $180
audigy gamer = $90
altec speakers = $75

case, keyboard, power supply, not more than $200 max, oh yeah, $35 for the firewire card. and you run a store so most likely buy in volume. so the MOST you could've paid for this is $1090.

the monitor really does cost about $1600. so youre going for $1310 in profit on this piece of SHIT

lol an MSI motherboard with an anthlon XP of all combinations. go peddle your shit to the clueless masses instead.

mike503 · 06-30-2002, 12:44 AM

that's a nice box. dipshit is right though.. there is some fuzzy math in there... i wouldn't value it at $4k.. especially if it's based off AMD shit.. we all know AMD is way cheaper than Intel gear.. hell even a p4-based system with those stats still would probably not be $4k.

is the desk and chair and shipping included possibly?

RW316 · 06-30-2002, 01:06 AM

any discounts for us gfy people?!?!

XXXPaysiteDesign · 06-30-2002, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by RW316
any discounts for us gfy people?!?!

dense.

Fletch XXX · 06-30-2002, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

yeah over the last few months, component manufacturers realized they dont have to make green cards. motherboards, video cards, sound cards... theyre all getting brighter & cooler looking... mainly a result of case mods... this is one of the few PCs we've built that doesnt have a side window & neon inside it.

Yeah

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike503
that's a nice box. dipshit is right though.. there is some fuzzy math in there... i wouldn't value it at $4k.. especially if it's based off AMD shit.. we all know AMD is way cheaper than Intel gear.. hell even a p4-based system with those stats still would probably not be $4k.

is the desk and chair and shipping included possibly?

a p4 system with a top of line motherboard like asus or abit that _completely_ blew that system out of the water still would not come to anything near $4000.

Xa Graphics · 06-30-2002, 01:44 AM

great computer. but a bit expensive.

AdultWire · 06-30-2002, 01:50 AM

P4's suck ass. Athlon kicks, but whatever.. I'd take a P3 over a P4 anyday.

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by AdultWire
P4's suck ass. Athlon kicks, but whatever.. I'd take a P3 over a P4 anyday.

thats really moronic

sasush · 06-30-2002, 06:17 AM

for 4000$ i can buy a bill gates computer

Theo · 06-30-2002, 06:32 AM

who sells bill gates computers?

sasush · 06-30-2002, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
who sells bill gates computers?

my friend

eru · 06-30-2002, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dipshit moron retard
$4000, what a hilarious ripoff.

msi kt3 motherboard = $70
antlon xp $= $140
100 gb wd drive = $130
you dont say what kind of ddr ram it is, but at the MOST $130
40x cd-r = $70 max
dvd = $40
geforce ti440 = $180
audigy gamer = $90
altec speakers = $75

case, keyboard, power supply, not more than $200 max, oh yeah, $35 for the firewire card. and you run a store so most likely buy in volume. so the MOST you could've paid for this is $1090.

the monitor really does cost about $1600. so youre going for $1310 in profit on this piece of SHIT lol an MSI motherboard with an anthlon XP of all combinations. go peddle your shit to the clueless masses instead.

Okay fuckface, let's get some things straight with your info:

1. DDR ram can cost more than $130 -- I'm paying $150 for mine and I have seen prices as high as $230 for DDR2100 (ECC Registered).

The case alone is at least $230. It's a special aluminum case. ( http://www.colorcases.com/cases/0205.html ).

He doesnt' say what kind of power supply is but if he builds PCs primarily for gamers, then expect a top-notch power supply. $30 PS's are shit. $80 PS's are OKay. If he's going to do what I will do and buy a top of the line PC Power and Cooling PS, he can pay in upward of $180.

His monitor does retail for about $1600 on pricewatch. LCD monitors can be expensive -- especially sony ones.

Goliath · 06-30-2002, 08:21 AM

Dawgy:

Where can i buy that desk at?

Thanks!

foe · 06-30-2002, 08:43 AM

4000 sounds like way to much for a computer especailly when I can get a 17 inch monitor for 520 now and its good quality

foe · 06-30-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
4000 sounds like way to much for a computer especailly when I can get a 17 inch monitor for 520 now and its good quality

17 inch lcd envision

hank · 06-30-2002, 10:34 AM

if you like sony like I like sony,
you can get this monitor instead:

<img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/sdms81b.jpg">
the main difference between this one that costs $1099

and this one that costs $1699:
<img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/sdmn80.jpg">

is that the $1099 one doesn't have a separate
video, audio and power unit, so it's a bit thicker.
(but not $600 thinner

)

with this system:
<img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/mx_4.jpg">

with these specs:

Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2 GHz?
512 MB PC-2100 DDR (expandable to 1 GB)
400 MHz Front Side Bus
120 GB Ultra ATA/100 hard drive
10Base-T/100Base-TX Fast Ethernet
Front and rear accessible i.LINK® (IEEE 1394) interfaces and USB connections
4X AGP 3D Graphics Hardware Acceleration (nVIDIA® GeForce2 MX?)
32 MB Video Memory (SDRAM)
V.90 compatible data/fax modem
Wheel mouse
Optical Out for Dolby Digital®
Type II PC Card slot
Built-in 40W FM Stereo Receiver
Giga Pocket? Personal Video Recorder
<b><u>DVD-RW</u></b> / CD-RW
MagicGate? Memory Stick® Media Slot
Net MD? MiniDisc recorder / player

cost?
unit: $2799
lcd: $1099
---------------
total: $3898 new

sasush · 06-30-2002, 10:36 AM

just like i said computer is fucking expensive. the person who will buy it for 4000$ must the stupiest person in whole world.

Za Ha · 06-30-2002, 11:09 AM

1) The computer looks great!! And is fuckin fast too.
2) The price is too high imo. $4000US = $6000 canadain and for that I can get a MUCH better system...

playa · 06-30-2002, 11:22 AM

ah man that PC is very sexy,,, but i got use to the commodore 64

pr0 · 06-30-2002, 11:25 AM

haha...i bought the matrix desk too dawgy, couldn't resist

my glass needs cleaning though, it looks horrible.

pr0 · 06-30-2002, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Goliath
Dawgy:

Where can i buy that desk at?

Thanks!

Office Max - on sale for 100$

I've spent 500$ on a desk before, but this is my favorite so far...& it was only 100bux.

Its called The Matrix

swedguy · 06-30-2002, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sasush
just like i said computer is fucking expensive. the person who will buy it for 4000$ must the stupiest person in whole world.

No, I think this is a conspiracy.

Dawgy · 06-30-2002, 11:51 AM

damn i go to bed and u people come out of the wood work.

the computer is priced based on what i paid for the components. if youre that intersted ill dig out my invoices and post the prices i paid.

incidentally, msi & amd togehter is not shit as a few people said. i have never had a problem with those two, and i have had problems with other crap.

if u arent interested in the computer fine, no reason to treat me like an asshole. geez.

swedguy · 06-30-2002, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
damn i go to bed and u people come out of the wood work.

the computer is priced based on what i paid for the components. if youre that intersted ill dig out my invoices and post the prices i paid.

incidentally, msi & amd togehter is not shit as a few people said. i have never had a problem with those two, and i have had problems with other crap.

if u arent interested in the computer fine, no reason to treat me like an asshole. geez.

Some people will ALWAYS find reasons to bitch. Computer, designer competition, CC processor, doesn't really matter what it is

I guess it could be called the GFY charm

Dawgy · 06-30-2002, 01:19 PM

actually ive decided NOT to post the individual prices for each component. why? cuz i dont have to.

when you order a PC from somewhere else, do you ask them what each part cost and then bitch at them about the profit they're making? when you buy a car, do you gripe at how much profit the manufacturer makes? how about that breakfast you had at Denny's this morning? yeah i didnt think so.

i am not a huge company, i cant buy 50000 processors and get a huge discount. i get a good discount for the amount of volume that i have. also, when you order all those individual parts from all over the country so you get the lowest prices, have you added up the shipping? ive seen people save $1000 on a PC by getting cheaper parts from all over, then spend $800 on shipping... kindof defeats the purpose doesnt it?

anyway... i dont have to justify my pricing or profit percentage to anyone. i know what i have in the machine, i know what its worth to someone who actually appreciates that type of computer. if you can build an IDENTICAL machine for less, go for it. im just offering this one for sale before i take it up to the store monday.

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eru

Okay fuckface, let's get some things straight with your info:

1. DDR ram can cost more than $130 -- I'm paying $150 for mine and I have seen prices as high as $230 for DDR2100 (ECC Registered).

The case alone is at least $230. It's a special aluminum case. ( http://www.colorcases.com/cases/0205.html ).

He doesnt' say what kind of power supply is but if he builds PCs primarily for gamers, then expect a top-notch power supply. $30 PS's are shit. $80 PS's are OKay. If he's going to do what I will do and buy a top of the line PC Power and Cooling PS, he can pay in upward of $180.

His monitor does retail for about $1600 on pricewatch. LCD monitors can be expensive -- especially sony ones.

yay another clueless retard telling me to 'get my facts straight', or whatever. 1st off if you bought ddr ECC you're a total idiot anyway: but here you go 1 512mb ECC ddr2100 dimm for $110
http://www.serverpart.com/md512pc2100d18e.html

and it would be cheaper if you bought it in 256 dimms instead. thats very much a standard price, but what kind of idiot would buy ddr2100 for a new system anyway? but you're rightddr CAN cost more than $130 if you are really fucking stupid. a microwave can cost $500,000,000 also.

if he really paid $230 for that case from colorcase he is butt ass stupid.

and he does say what kind of PSU it is you inbred fagchimp, a silencer, i dunno what he paid for it but you can get an enermax whisper for $50 and those are GREAT.

and yeah i said the only thing there that wasn't of inflated value was his lcd, so duhhh?

so to summarize, you and dawgy pay too much for your shit. you and dawgy are assclowns. dawgy shouldn't be running a pc business at all, or should only be advertising to mainstream mom and dad types.

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
actually ive decided NOT to post the individual prices for each component. why? cuz i dont have to.

no one asked you to post them anyway, and why would it matter if you did? you're either trying to rip everyone here off or you're a moron who needs to pull out of the pc business ASAP.

Dawgy · 06-30-2002, 02:03 PM

heh i dont even know what to say to respond to those two posts... it is impossible to argue with someone who thinks they are always right and treats other people like they are dirt.

please list whatever sites you run dipshit, i want to make sure i NEVER do business with you on any level, in any industry.

dipshit moron retard · 06-30-2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
heh i dont even know what to say to respond to those two posts... it is impossible to argue with someone who thinks they are always right and treats other people like they are dirt.

please list whatever sites you run dipshit, i want to make sure i NEVER do business with you on any level, in any industry.

uh, if i'm wrong then i'd like to hear why, i dont care about being right and whatever im just stating facts dude.

this is the only site i run: http://www.outnet.org/bill.php?Dawgy

06-29-2002, 08:07 PM	#1
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	new computer for sale hey gang, i have decided to sell a new pc that i don't need. as most of you know i own a computer store. we mostly build high-end gaming machines, so i had one built for myself. however, i decided i wanted a raid, as well as more of a 'work' pc instead of gaming, and had another one built for myself. so now i need to sell this one. i thought before i take it all apart and carry it up to the store, id just post some pics and info on here and see if anyone is interested. i'll sell it to a GFY member for a lot less than i will some college kid who comes in my store http://www.woofmedia.com/pc/ __________________ the revolution is coming.

06-29-2002, 08:12 PM	#3
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	sweet __________________

06-29-2002, 08:21 PM	#5
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	price listed is for a GFY member... in the store it'd be marked up a bit more... the monitor alone is about $1600... marcus.... store isnt online yet if you want to email me a price range and/or specs, ill see what i can do. dawgy at woofmedia dot com incidentally, im planning to get the store up & running online within 30 days, and offer rather large discounts to GFY people (spam spam) __________________ the revolution is coming.

06-29-2002, 08:49 PM	#6
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06-29-2002, 08:11 PM	#2
Goonx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,048	For how much would you sell it to a GFY member ??

06-29-2002, 08:15 PM	#4
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	hey Dawgy do you have your store online? I can't get that machine above but I need to buy a new machine, mine current one is very old :(

06-29-2002, 09:03 PM	#8
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	i'll give 1000$

06-29-2002, 09:15 PM	#10
mjrools23 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,604	great comp

06-29-2002, 10:31 PM	#13
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06-30-2002, 12:41 AM	#14
dipshit moron retard Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 667	$4000, what a hilarious ripoff. msi kt3 motherboard = $70 antlon xp $= $140 100 gb wd drive = $130 you dont say what kind of ddr ram it is, but at the MOST $130 40x cd-r = $70 max dvd = $40 geforce ti440 = $180 audigy gamer = $90 altec speakers = $75 case, keyboard, power supply, not more than $200 max, oh yeah, $35 for the firewire card. and you run a store so most likely buy in volume. so the MOST you could've paid for this is $1090. the monitor really does cost about $1600. so youre going for $1310 in profit on this piece of SHIT lol an MSI motherboard with an anthlon XP of all combinations. go peddle your shit to the clueless masses instead.

06-30-2002, 12:44 AM	#15
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	that's a nice box. dipshit is right though.. there is some fuzzy math in there... i wouldn't value it at $4k.. especially if it's based off AMD shit.. we all know AMD is way cheaper than Intel gear.. hell even a p4-based system with those stats still would probably not be $4k. is the desk and chair and shipping included possibly? __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

06-30-2002, 01:06 AM	#16
RW316 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,103	any discounts for us gfy people?!?!

06-30-2002, 01:44 AM	#20
Xa Graphics Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 430	great computer. but a bit expensive. __________________ Click Here Now!

06-30-2002, 01:50 AM	#21
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06-30-2002, 06:17 AM	#23
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	for 4000$ i can buy a bill gates computer

06-30-2002, 06:32 AM	#24
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	who sells bill gates computers?

06-30-2002, 08:21 AM	#27
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06-30-2002, 08:43 AM	#28
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	4000 sounds like way to much for a computer especailly when I can get a 17 inch monitor for 520 now and its good quality

06-30-2002, 10:34 AM	#30
hank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hanks House Posts: 85	if you like sony like I like sony, you can get this monitor instead: <img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/sdms81b.jpg"> the main difference between this one that costs $1099 and this one that costs $1699: <img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/sdmn80.jpg"> is that the $1099 one doesn't have a separate video, audio and power unit, so it's a bit thicker. (but not $600 thinner ) with this system: <img src="http://www.sonystyle.com/images/250x250/shots/mx_4.jpg"> with these specs: Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2 GHz? 512 MB PC-2100 DDR (expandable to 1 GB) 400 MHz Front Side Bus 120 GB Ultra ATA/100 hard drive 10Base-T/100Base-TX Fast Ethernet Front and rear accessible i.LINK® (IEEE 1394) interfaces and USB connections 4X AGP 3D Graphics Hardware Acceleration (nVIDIA® GeForce2 MX?) 32 MB Video Memory (SDRAM) V.90 compatible data/fax modem Wheel mouse Optical Out for Dolby Digital® Type II PC Card slot Built-in 40W FM Stereo Receiver Giga Pocket? Personal Video Recorder <b><u>DVD-RW</u></b> / CD-RW MagicGate? Memory Stick® Media Slot Net MD? MiniDisc recorder / player cost? unit: $2799 lcd: $1099 --------------- total: $3898 new __________________ <a href="http://adultfriendfinder.com/go/b35298" onMouseover="window.status='Make mass money instantly';return true" onMouseout="window.status='';return true">aff</a> - cuz everyone needs a date!

06-30-2002, 10:36 AM	#31
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	just like i said computer is fucking expensive. the person who will buy it for 4000$ must the stupiest person in whole world.

06-30-2002, 11:09 AM	#32
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	1) The computer looks great!! And is fuckin fast too. 2) The price is too high imo. $4000US = $6000 canadain and for that I can get a MUCH better system...

06-30-2002, 11:22 AM	#33
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	ah man that PC is very sexy,,, but i got use to the commodore 64

06-30-2002, 11:25 AM	#34
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06-30-2002, 11:51 AM	#37
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	damn i go to bed and u people come out of the wood work. the computer is priced based on what i paid for the components. if youre that intersted ill dig out my invoices and post the prices i paid. incidentally, msi & amd togehter is not shit as a few people said. i have never had a problem with those two, and i have had problems with other crap. if u arent interested in the computer fine, no reason to treat me like an asshole. geez. __________________ the revolution is coming.

06-30-2002, 01:19 PM	#39
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	actually ive decided NOT to post the individual prices for each component. why? cuz i dont have to. when you order a PC from somewhere else, do you ask them what each part cost and then bitch at them about the profit they're making? when you buy a car, do you gripe at how much profit the manufacturer makes? how about that breakfast you had at Denny's this morning? yeah i didnt think so. i am not a huge company, i cant buy 50000 processors and get a huge discount. i get a good discount for the amount of volume that i have. also, when you order all those individual parts from all over the country so you get the lowest prices, have you added up the shipping? ive seen people save $1000 on a PC by getting cheaper parts from all over, then spend $800 on shipping... kindof defeats the purpose doesnt it? anyway... i dont have to justify my pricing or profit percentage to anyone. i know what i have in the machine, i know what its worth to someone who actually appreciates that type of computer. if you can build an IDENTICAL machine for less, go for it. im just offering this one for sale before i take it up to the store monday. __________________ the revolution is coming. Last edited by Dawgy; 06-30-2002 at 01:21 PM..

06-30-2002, 02:03 PM	#42
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	heh i dont even know what to say to respond to those two posts... it is impossible to argue with someone who thinks they are always right and treats other people like they are dirt. please list whatever sites you run dipshit, i want to make sure i NEVER do business with you on any level, in any industry. __________________ the revolution is coming.