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Old 09-20-2006, 09:52 PM   #101
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before judging listen to the whole speech not the talking points from fox
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:09 PM   #102
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friggin chavez. He does all this stuff to make sure his citizens can get across our border and live here tax free while sending money back to mexico, and he calls Bush the devil?

Bush is an asshole, sure, but he isn't much better.
What "stuff" is Chavez doing?

Chavez is the President of Venezuela - not Mexico. Last time I looked Venezuela was in South America and has no borders with the US and Venezuelan people don't normally make the effort to cross any borders or send any money to Mexico whether this is tax free or otherwise

Sure Bush is an asshole (or appears to be), but at least Chavez has gas at 12 cents/gallon, provides 70% of the population with universal healthcare and food to approx 12 million people in need and still provides cheap fuel to folks in the US who are in need. Never noticed Bush come close to that - even during an emergency scenario (Katrina).
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:19 AM   #103
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friggin chavez. He does all this stuff to make sure his citizens can get across our border and live here tax free while sending money back to mexico, and he calls Bush the devil?

Bush is an asshole, sure, but he isn't much better.


Probably another RATIONAL that Lazonby refers to ...... Stop gping to school. you are way to educated, mainly geography....
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:17 AM   #104
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Never noticed Bush come close to that - even during an emergency scenario (Katrina).
But Bush makes very nice speeches about what he is (not really) going to do
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:41 AM   #105
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:56 AM   #107
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Tell Bush the truth!
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Old 09-21-2006, 11:20 AM   #108
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Who is Hugo Chavez again?

Of all people, what does he have against George W? Isnt he a drug kingpin or something?

What a fucking ignorant you are!!!
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Old 09-21-2006, 11:22 AM   #109
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Fucking Gringos You Are So Fucking Stupid No Wonder Why You Have That President!

Assholes!!!!


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Old 09-21-2006, 11:56 AM   #110
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Sounds like someone who isn't afraid of telling the truth.
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Old 09-21-2006, 11:57 AM   #111
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Hurricane Hugo
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:41 PM   #112
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Sounds like someone who isn't afraid of telling the truth.
Each side has truths, lies and half-truths. Had Chavez delivered his more diplomatically who knows how big the impact might have been.
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:57 PM   #114
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Each side has truths, lies and half-truths. Had Chavez delivered his more diplomatically who knows how big the impact might have been.
Agree mardigras. And doubt it is the case with Chavez, but now that he has some attention, if he did start being a shade more diplomatic, he might even be effective.
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:59 AM   #115
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I was sitting in a Barcelona hotel watching CNN during that Chavez speech and I found it interesting that they emphasized mostly that he called Bush "the devil" and they seemed so surprised and shocked about that speech.

Chavez was right in many parts of his speech, because if you ask the people on the streets around the world about Bush or the US politics, many will agree with Chavez point of view.

Now I'm not saying it is the right point of view, but there are really MANY people thinking like Chavez said.....
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