Which successful programs DO NOT buy or produce exclusive content? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

abyss_al · 09-14-2006, 02:07 AM

as successful as bbros.. none

successful enough (and growing)... wildcash

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

again. took you off ignore for this thread.. ill be puttin you right back on as soon as i finish this post.

you shoot exclusive content ($$$)

im happy for you..

i produce traffic ($$$$$$$$)

That explains why you have to post so much and sell your sig to others for

ADG Webmaster

brand0n · 09-14-2006, 02:26 AM

havent bothered yet..

so.. let me get this correct..

anyone who sells a sig on here is broke..
thats the jest of it correct?

this couldnt have happend in a better thread

and while im here..

i post alot? heh.

you see my join date right.. according to the board im doing... lets see here..

(16.24 posts per day)

you are doing..

(9.82 posts per day)
yep.. those 6.42 post a day really push a huge diff between you and i

im done with you now.

i wouldnt buy your content if you held the last scrap of 2257 on the planet.
back to iggy you go now.. no reason to even bother with you any more.

go back to what you do best..
post a useless pic..

brand0n · 09-14-2006, 02:29 AM

can the 2257 comment..
18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement

Date of AsianDivaGirls.com Original Publication On The Internet: 02/14/2003

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2006, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

go back to what you do best..
post a useless pic..

Sorry, I don't have any pictures of you...

ADG Webmaster

brand0n · 09-14-2006, 02:41 AM

im sure you posted a witty comment or somethin but alas..
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
This message is hidden because AsianDivaGirlsWebDude is on your ignore list.

ill never get to read it..

just to clarify.. yes.. my what ever is a whore.. im dead broke.. and what ever he just posted about me is 100 % true.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-14-2006, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

im sure you posted a witty comment or somethin but alas..
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
This message is hidden because AsianDivaGirlsWebDude is on your ignore list.

ill never get to read it..

just to clarify.. yes.. my what ever is a whore.. im dead broke.. and what ever he just posted about me is 100 % true.

Can't tell if I like you more as a troll or an ostrich.

To be honest, I harbor no ill feelings towards the majority of people on forums such as GFY, including you, AaronM, and others, despite what you zing at me.

I'm not such a bad person once you get to know me.

ADG Webmaster

Ross · 09-14-2006, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

No sir. It is tight, but far from firm.

Ask Ross.

Sorry Nylz, I got to agree with Aaron in this one.

Why has no-one mentioned Pimproll/Adult Elite yet? Probably one of the most successful programmes in this business and I know for sure they have a lot of DVD content.

Lykos · 09-14-2006, 04:58 AM

We have just started with www.ballerbucks.com but all our sites are 100% exclusive... 9 to start... every 15 days new site till we get 30 how much we have ready.but i think it's the key to have exclusive

Alex From San Diego · 09-14-2006, 06:18 AM

This is actually a good marketing tactic for Aaron

Aaron, even as simple as you put it, it is still over everyones head. I'm sure they are scratching their noggins thinking WTF is this clown talking about..LOL

09-14-2006, 07:03 AM

PimpRoll/AdultElite etc are HUGE, much larger than most think

Nylz · 09-14-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Sorry Nylz, I got to agree with Aaron in this one.

Why has no-one mentioned Pimproll/Adult Elite yet? Probably one of the most successful programmes in this business and I know for sure they have a lot of DVD content.

Yep, they are WAY up there for sure.. but they also have exclusive stuff..

Shap · 09-14-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

how early we talkin on twistys?

they really have stepped up to the plate IMHO as far as content goes

sure tons of people would agree with that

dean shoots some of the hottest girls ive fuckin seen..

We started producing Exclusive content for Twistys in January 2004 with Cirrus from Reyko. So back in 2004 we were 100% non exclusive.

We currently update 4 photosets a day and 1 video a day every single day of the year and 85% of that is exclusively produced material.

Shap · 09-14-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is.... Twistys only "recently" starting doing exclusive content... Weren't the older adultplatinum (adult.com) sites mostly non-exclusive?

Frankly, with programs like topbucks, pimproll, hawg etc. etc. etc. offering all their exclusive content in leased feeds, if you had sites with great presentation and giving the surfer what they want, (something shap "should" have taught people with his success), you really wouldn't need exclusive content yourself.

I agree 100%.
The main reason we started producing exclusive content was the decline in licensed content particularly in the glamour market.

Here are a few of the companies that we used to buy from...
Matrix Content used to produce 28 new sets a week. That was enough for me to run just about all my updates. Then they dropped to 2 to 5 usable sets per week (ie not amateur/white bg sets).

Cloud9 was around and they got out of the market and into the paysite market.

Jokersx Scotty went on to become Mr Actiongirls.

Reyko stopped producing.

and on and on. Glamour content is very expensive to produce and the Glamour niche is so hard to penetrate and be successful in that there is not a huge demand for licensed Glamour content.

What we did was simple. Start Twistys for around $20,000. A very minimal investment. We implemented a solid member's area plan that included Daily updates. We made sure we treated our members the way we'd want to be treated. When the Licensed content market's future looked bad we decided to start producing our own content. Our updates never suffered. Our content only got better and better. Truth is it would have been imposible for us to start Twistys with 85% exclusive Glamour content. The cost to run a site that updates as much as we do with as much exclusive Glamour content as we have is insane.

An interesting note to end this post. Before we ran produced exclusive content we were running at insanely high profit margins. We were paying $50 a set that was photoshopped and ready to use. Now we pay $1000s for a shoot and we have to have the staff to photoshop it and video editors to prepare the videos. Our productions costs are insane. However it's still been extremely worthwhile. Exclusive content has really helped the Twistys brand excel to a level i never expected it to become. I mean in all honesty when Beth and I started Twistys it was all Matrix and Jokersx content. I didn't exactly see us competing with Playboy and Penthouse. Yet here we are 5 years later competing with two of the biggest names in the industry. Hard work really does payoff.

DeanCapture · 09-14-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by shap

Yet here we are 5 years later competing with two of the biggest names in the industry. Hard work really does payoff.

Shap · 09-14-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Hey Dean you need to post those new Hammer pics you emailed me. They are absolutely stunning. I think they are ready for a new thread

DeanCapture · 09-14-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Hey Dean you need to post those new Hammer pics you emailed me. They are absolutely stunning. I think they are ready for a new thread

Hey Shap - I posted them last night

tranza · 09-14-2006, 11:02 AM

Twistys started with not eclusive content. Quickbucks is still banking with it.

And it is still possible to make very good money without having exclusive content.

AaronM · 09-14-2006, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego

This is actually a good marketing tactic for Aaron

Aaron, even as simple as you put it, it is still over everyones head. I'm sure they are scratching their noggins thinking WTF is this clown talking about..LOL

Why you calling me a clown?

Thanks for the input, Alex.

Paul Markham · 09-20-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Successful = companies like Adult.com, BangBros, Karups, ATK, Mayor's Money..... I'm not talking about the guys who make beer money.

So, who's making BANK off 100% non-exclusive content?

Tell me a site or sponsor that makes more than "Beer money" who started in the last two years. Any sponsor, exclusive or not. Quoting programs who got in when it was easier is not the way.

While you're at it tell us 100% custom shooters who make more than beer money.

Paul Markham · 09-21-2006, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

I agree 100%.
The main reason we started producing exclusive content was the decline in licensed content particularly in the glamour market.

Here are a few of the companies that we used to buy from...
Matrix Content used to produce 28 new sets a week. That was enough for me to run just about all my updates. Then they dropped to 2 to 5 usable sets per week (ie not amateur/white bg sets).

Cloud9 was around and they got out of the market and into the paysite market.

Jokersx Scotty went on to become Mr Actiongirls.

Reyko stopped producing.

and on and on. Glamour content is very expensive to produce and the Glamour niche is so hard to penetrate and be successful in that there is not a huge demand for licensed Glamour content.

What we did was simple. Start Twistys for around $20,000. A very minimal investment. We implemented a solid member's area plan that included Daily updates. We made sure we treated our members the way we'd want to be treated. When the Licensed content market's future looked bad we decided to start producing our own content. Our updates never suffered. Our content only got better and better. Truth is it would have been imposible for us to start Twistys with 85% exclusive Glamour content. The cost to run a site that updates as much as we do with as much exclusive Glamour content as we have is insane.

An interesting note to end this post. Before we ran produced exclusive content we were running at insanely high profit margins. We were paying $50 a set that was photoshopped and ready to use. Now we pay $1000s for a shoot and we have to have the staff to photoshop it and video editors to prepare the videos. Our productions costs are insane. However it's still been extremely worthwhile. Exclusive content has really helped the Twistys brand excel to a level i never expected it to become. I mean in all honesty when Beth and I started Twistys it was all Matrix and Jokersx content. I didn't exactly see us competing with Playboy and Penthouse. Yet here we are 5 years later competing with two of the biggest names in the industry. Hard work really does payoff.

Great post.

I'm sure the point of this post is for Aaron to get more work and not educate people into buying/using more exclusive content. If it is maybe he would like to tell us who he is aiming at, the new sites or the Adult.com's of the world. New ones might be buying from a new supplier doubt if the big guys are.

Few of the sites he lists STARTED shooting exclusive 100%, Lightspeed come to mind. In fact some of the early sites were grabbing it from where ever they could, even out of sources not 100% legal.

Starting a paysite today with exclusive content needs a very big budget, which few will have. Following my model, which is similar to yours will cost $30,000 in content alone. Invest that into exclusive and you will not have enough to keep a few affiliates happy. Starting a site with $30,000 of exclusive content will be very very tough. And the big sponsors know this. They are trying to pull up the drawer bridge and shut the door.

You are right the good content providers have got out, can someone explain why they got out if non exclusive is saturated? Yes some saw it was easier to run a paysite than a content store, easier and more profitable, but they got out.

Twistys model was the best model for all new site owners. Build your content, traffic and membership base with good content. Update with as much as you can, then move to the exclusive market.

DarkJedi · 09-21-2006, 01:10 AM

Traffic Cash Gold

ladida · 09-21-2006, 03:48 AM

Another funny thread

sacX · 09-21-2006, 05:05 AM

I guess when a program gets to a certain size there's always the cash to throw at an exlclusive project to test the theory that exclusive content does better. So if a program gets to a certain size it's almost inevitable they'll commission some exclusive content and thus stop being 100% non-exclusive. Doesn't mean exclusive content got them where they are.

Klen · 09-21-2006, 05:06 AM

This doesnt look as funny thread.Is bussines thread

ladida · 09-21-2006, 05:34 AM

It's funny when people start throwing programs left and right and speculating of their size based on god knows what and comparing programs that can't be compared in any sense. (not even sure what's that gota do with the initial question frankly)

Marketing sells, not exclusive content. Retention, that's another thing.

Martin · 09-21-2006, 07:53 AM

Exclusive content is over rated..

09-14-2006, 02:07 AM	#51
abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	as successful as bbros.. none successful enough (and growing)... wildcash __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx

09-14-2006, 02:26 AM	#53
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	havent bothered yet.. so.. let me get this correct.. anyone who sells a sig on here is broke.. thats the jest of it correct? this couldnt have happend in a better thread and while im here.. i post alot? heh. you see my join date right.. according to the board im doing... lets see here.. (16.24 posts per day) you are doing.. (9.82 posts per day) yep.. those 6.42 post a day really push a huge diff between you and i im done with you now. i wouldnt buy your content if you held the last scrap of 2257 on the planet. back to iggy you go now.. no reason to even bother with you any more. go back to what you do best.. post a useless pic.. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

09-14-2006, 02:29 AM	#54
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	can the 2257 comment.. 18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement Date of AsianDivaGirls.com Original Publication On The Internet: 02/14/2003 __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

09-14-2006, 02:41 AM	#56
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	im sure you posted a witty comment or somethin but alas.. AsianDivaGirlsWebDude This message is hidden because AsianDivaGirlsWebDude is on your ignore list. ill never get to read it.. just to clarify.. yes.. my what ever is a whore.. im dead broke.. and what ever he just posted about me is 100 % true. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

09-14-2006, 04:58 AM	#59
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	We have just started with www.ballerbucks.com but all our sites are 100% exclusive... 9 to start... every 15 days new site till we get 30 how much we have ready.but i think it's the key to have exclusive __________________

09-14-2006, 06:18 AM	#60
Alex From San Diego Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,642	This is actually a good marketing tactic for Aaron Aaron, even as simple as you put it, it is still over everyones head. I'm sure they are scratching their noggins thinking WTF is this clown talking about..LOL __________________ We are what we repeatedly do.-Aristotle

09-14-2006, 07:03 AM	#61
MassiveDollars - DonPaul Guest Posts: n/a	PimpRoll/AdultElite etc are HUGE, much larger than most think

09-14-2006, 11:02 AM	#68
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Twistys started with not eclusive content. Quickbucks is still banking with it. And it is still possible to make very good money without having exclusive content. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

09-21-2006, 01:10 AM	#72
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Traffic Cash Gold

09-21-2006, 03:48 AM	#73
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	Another funny thread __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

09-21-2006, 05:05 AM	#74
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	I guess when a program gets to a certain size there's always the cash to throw at an exlclusive project to test the theory that exclusive content does better. So if a program gets to a certain size it's almost inevitable they'll commission some exclusive content and thus stop being 100% non-exclusive. Doesn't mean exclusive content got them where they are. __________________ Have Asian Language Traffic?

09-21-2006, 05:06 AM	#75
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	This doesnt look as funny thread.Is bussines thread

09-21-2006, 05:34 AM	#76
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	It's funny when people start throwing programs left and right and speculating of their size based on god knows what and comparing programs that can't be compared in any sense. (not even sure what's that gota do with the initial question frankly) Marketing sells, not exclusive content. Retention, that's another thing. __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

09-21-2006, 07:53 AM	#77
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	Exclusive content is over rated..