Note to webcam sponsors

[Gillespie]

It's really hard to make a targeted website when the only ad on the "lesbian page" with live shots shows a bunch of webcams with single girls on them. =/

[Gillespie]

[aico]

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

[aico]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

See there's your problem right there, it says "Lesbian" not "Lesbians".

[Gillespie]

ROFL.. You have a point

[Webby]

Another note to webcam programs

Get at least 100 decent (not green tinted) screengrabs 320x240 of each niche zipped up, without watermarks and each named with the cam host nick (or network ID if you must) - thank you

Once that's done - how about 200 hosts spread over whatever niches and a minimum of 12 320x240 screengrabs of each for "profile pages" (same spec as above) - thanks yet again

[Gillespie]

Another thing I'd like to say is that they should add the option to take the surfer directly to the girl's profile instead of tours or sign up page. If the surfer clicked, it is because he has interest in that particular girl. If likes what he sees, he's going to find the way to pay for the content, but if you take him somewhere where the girl can't be found later, like a tour or harass him into a sign up page, you've lost a potential customer and I've lost a comission.

[anne]

Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com

jane

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by anne

Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com

jane

why does your program have 2 names? are they related?

i'm confused.

although i admit i am strangly attracted to the cow design.

[thricer]

good point there, lol

[videodoll]

just because you're a lesbian doesn't mean you have to be a pair of lesbians. I don't understand the draw of a lesbian if they are not in a pair, anyone could call themself one. Then again, the majority of ladies in pairs who claim to be lesbians on these sites are just women hard up for cash. Perhaps we are all lesbians when there is payout involved.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by videodoll

just because you're a lesbian doesn't mean you have to be a pair of lesbians. I don't understand the draw of a lesbian if they are not in a pair, anyone could call themself one. Then again, the majority of ladies in pairs who claim to be lesbians on these sites are just women hard up for cash. Perhaps we are all lesbians when there is payout involved.

when the surfer wants to see lesbians live... i think any idiot can agree that a single girl is not what he is looking for.

he didn't seek out "live lesbians" because he was looking for a stimulating, live discussion about human sexuality in the year 2006 and gay issues - he is looking for two cute chicks who will touch each other.

[Kevsh]

I didnt' read all the above posts, so forgive if this has been said ... but there are lesbians who perform solo too. Though I do agree that typically on a "webcam" site if I'm pushing lesbians I expect to see a couple.

In this case, could it just be an error?
Or for this site there were no lesbian couples online at that moment, so the script defaults to solo girls?

[Gillespie]

Yes, I also thought that it could be argued that way. However, the way I see it, nobody is asking the girls "What is your sexual preference?" and paying for it. They are asking "Do you suck pussy? Show me!", which is impossible to do if you are doing a solo show unless you can pull off some serious Mandrake shit.

[Gillespie]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Or for this site there were no lesbian couples online at that moment, so the script defaults to solo girls?

I believe the way it works is that the girls get to choose what they qualify in because I've seen no pairs on page 1, but some pairs on other pages. So basically it must look for girls that have the 'lesbian' tag in them and just display them randomly.

[Gillespie]

Originally Posted by anne

Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com

jane

Hi Jane,

I checked out Moocash and the whole cow thing was quite funny. However, there's an annoying ticking sound that just wouldn't stop and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on until I scrolled down.

Regarding the webcams, are those live shots in the thumbnails? Also, do you have some sort of script that creates what is seen in that screenshot above for websites?

[Gillespie]

Bump for an answer from Jane.

[TampaToker]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Hi Jane,

I checked out Moocash and the whole cow thing was quite funny. However, there's an annoying ticking sound that just wouldn't stop and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on until I scrolled down.

Took me a minute to figure out what it was too

[Xenophage]

See if this is something you can use

You can also link direct to a models bio

http://cams.com/p/cams/view.cgi?stre...ede&action=bio

[Juilan]

With AWE you can send to a live lesbian landing page with 2 babes in each thumb (3 are live right now here) or direct to profile pages

[tranza]

Originally Posted by Webby

Another note to webcam programs

Get at least 100 decent (not green tinted) screengrabs 320x240 of each niche zipped up, without watermarks and each named with the cam host nick (or network ID if you must) - thank you

I second that.

[Dwreck]

Gillespie,

When I saw your initial post I decided to log in and see if by chance this was happeing to WebcamCash as well.

Well I tested and tested and lesbians show up every time.

Here is a quick screen shot from a random attempt.


Try it out yourself http://www.webcamcash.com/int/AffiliateIFrame there is a multitude of custom options that is fun to play with and tweak your creative.

You can link to any page from model's bio page to the join form at WebcamCash. Simple add a small bit of code and the end of the string and your good to go


Webby,

Those are bad ass suggestions. I have made a note of them and we will do that. I will contact you the minute it is done.

Some interesting points being made keep it up.

[Xenophage]

Lesbian Landing pages from cams.com


Another Lesbian landing page


Live Lesbian girls direct to free chat !

[Boobs]

yes i'd like to see "teen category" actually show girls that look like they're teens

[adamneve]

Gillespie check out imlive.com through Pussycash.com we have all the niches you want and all the ads that will fit them, plus if there is anything you need to be made please hit me up and let's do it for you

[Gillespie]

Good stuff in this thread.

Dwreck, those don't seem to be live snapshots.

I like my current sponsor because the interface just blends in with my site and they are live, refreshing, snapshots, but I'm really hating the problems mentioned before. Also, I also like the fact that you can navigate through the available webcams, which really doesn't help much if the cams tagged 'lesbians' are full of single lesbians. Nobody gives a shit if they like girls in their personal lives; as long as they're using the 'lesbian' tag, I would really prefer if there were two pairs of tits of tits rubbing against each other.

So yeah, the main problem seems to be the filtering of tags. I'm going to check out my site and see what kind of girls I see.

Be back with the screenshot in a sec.

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Another thing I'd like to say is that they should add the option to take the surfer directly to the girl's profile instead of tours or sign up page. If the surfer clicked, it is because he has interest in that particular girl. If likes what he sees, he's going to find the way to pay for the content, but if you take him somewhere where the girl can't be found later, like a tour or harass him into a sign up page, you've lost a potential customer and I've lost a comission.

Most of the programs I promote have that option. If it isn't available in the promo tools section, contact the aff. rep and they can set you up.

For example - and correct me if I'm wrong Adam - but with PussyCash a direct link to a performer will go to the all online page by default if she/he is not online. However, there is a direct link available that will go to the profile page anyway.

A few other programs have links in their tools for both options, or just to the profile page by default.

My experience has been that conversions are better if they are redirected to the all online page - even though you wouldn't think so. Apparently, the surfer will find someone else he likes pretty quickly in most cases.

On some sites, I still send them to the profile page because I want retention on my site. I don't want the surfer to feel misled (if they are redirected, they may assume she doesn't exist, etc.) in which case he won't come back to me, or perhaps the sponsor's site.

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Dwreck, those don't seem to be live snapshots.

Personally, I hate live snapshots - often enough, the photo is NOT what you want the surfer to see! She's partly offscreen, head not showing, smoking, sleeping, a blurred shot if she's moving etc. etc.

I would MUCH rather have the performer set a default image - probably her most flattering - and have that show in a live banner/frame.

[Gillespie]

[Gillespie]

Thanks to all the sponsors who have made generous offers, however doing something custom-made for me is a waste of time. I'm not a big fish and I don't have massive traffic... yet.

All I'm doing are suggestions for when you guys decide to update or improve your scripts.

[Gillespie]

I'm starting to wonder if that delightgirl moves at all

[Gillespie]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

On some sites, I still send them to the profile page because I want retention on my site. I don't want the surfer to feel misled (if they are redirected, they may assume she doesn't exist, etc.) in which case he won't come back to me, or perhaps the sponsor's site.

This is extremely important. I do not want them to think they're being mislead either, which is the reason why I'd like to see this system working better. If the sign says "Live", I want it to be that way. If she's wearing a leopard thong in the ad, she better have it on when my surfer reaches her page [another good reason why we should be able to link to a profile with a live snapshot immediately].

If I'm advertising "Live", it has to be live, no matter the disadvantage of her current snapshot showing her eating a Big Mac.

The whole point of the webcam market is that whatever the customer sees is actually happening somewhere in the world in real time. Proof of this is the fact that there is still a webcam market, even after some sponsors have started to migrate to high definition.

Unfortunately, too many assholes have already played the misleading link trick. We need to keep it as straight as possible to come off as a trustworthy site. Well, we actually need to be a trustworthy site and misleading is the first thing that will break our fragile credibility.

[free4porn]

funny thread

[Maxxx9000]

Dude use cams.com instead. It's much better...

[RuthB]

WEGCash offers Cams, we pay $20-$25 per free lifetime membership signup and we have custom ads for you.

You can select your niche, you can change colours to fit your site, and you can deliver your traffic straight through to the profile of the girl they wish to view.

If anyone needs any help getting going with WEGCash EZCams just get in touch!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email - [email protected]

[Gillespie]

Originally Posted by WEGRuth

...and you can deliver your traffic straight through to the profile of the girl they wish to view.

I really haven't found a way to do this with the configurable settings WEG offers.

[RuthB]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

I really haven't found a way to do this with the configurable settings WEG offers.

I know, we just sent out a note in our newsletter and posted info on our forum so you can update your script to allow it.

Here's what you do (based on a WEGCash EZCams script)

Locate this variable: nfc=1

Change this variable to: nfc=0

And that should deliver your traffic through to the profile page of the model they're clicking. Try it, you'll like it!

We'll be updating the form/script in our backend soon to reflect the new options/variables we have to offer. In the meantime, if you need ANY help, just get in touch, I'll help you out.

[Gillespie]

Kickass!

Thanks!

[anne]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Bump for an answer from Jane.

Hmmm i didnt notice the ticking but I have sound off because some of the banners on GFY are so irritating. Yes the those are live caps the girls make. We also have a pretty neat banner that runs a shuffle of the shows. You can see iit in use in the corner of this page http://www.ufuckhead.com/blog/

Pretty much anything can be worked out. However I think you got it right we find that the more people link direct to the bio the more the customers convert, especailly when that particular girl or couple is online.

Right now the zip file that I spoke about is mostly single girls however I am going to work on doing one for couples. and lesbians as well.

:D
jane

[anne]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

why does your program have 2 names? are they related?

i'm confused.

although i admit i am strangly attracted to the cow design.

LOL you mean the moo cash and the lazy dollars and big cash crew. Yea that was a prrogramming thing and we just kept them all. For the most part we just stick with moocash however the other two are still out there and being used as well.

[Xenophage]

Push customers direct to a live model

http://cams.com/go/page/cams_view_ra...id=g733301-pct


or somehting quick you can embed in your site

http://cams.com/go/page/cams_iframe_...ml?pid=g733301

[Gillespie]

Just to clear things up, the sponsor I'm currently using, which at this point is pretty clear who it is, fixed all the problems and I'm showing at least three lesbians in the lesbian page plus sending traffic directly to the clicked girl preview feed, which is even better.

I can't say if the surfer gets redirected to the preview feed or the profile after signup is complete because I haven't tried yet.

Thanks to Ruth for the prompt and reliable service.

Lars, I saw your program and it looks good. I will see how it goes with the current sponsor, but I will try to use your program for another project I have going on.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Lars, I saw your program and it looks good. I will see how it goes with the current sponsor, but I will try to use your program for another project I have going on.

Excellent! If you have any questions about getting started with cams.com, myself or Sean/Irish Pimp is always available

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by anne

LOL you mean the moo cash and the lazy dollars and big cash crew. Yea that was a prrogramming thing and we just kept them all. For the most part we just stick with moocash however the other two are still out there and being used as well.

do they all have the same tools for marketing?