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Gillespie 09-12-2006 06:49 PM

Note to webcam sponsors
 
It's really hard to make a targeted website when the only ad on the "lesbian page" with live shots shows a bunch of webcams with single girls on them. =/

Gillespie 09-12-2006 06:51 PM

http://xs106.xs.to/xs106/06373/wtf.gif

aico 09-12-2006 06:51 PM

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it.

aico 09-12-2006 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie

See there's your problem right there, it says "Lesbian" not "Lesbians".

Gillespie 09-12-2006 06:53 PM

ROFL.. You have a point

Webby 09-12-2006 06:57 PM

Another note to webcam programs :winkwink:

Get at least 100 decent (not green tinted) screengrabs 320x240 of each niche zipped up, without watermarks and each named with the cam host nick (or network ID if you must) - thank you :)

Once that's done - how about 200 hosts spread over whatever niches and a minimum of 12 320x240 screengrabs of each for "profile pages" (same spec as above) - thanks yet again :winkwink:

Gillespie 09-12-2006 06:58 PM

Another thing I'd like to say is that they should add the option to take the surfer directly to the girl's profile instead of tours or sign up page. If the surfer clicked, it is because he has interest in that particular girl. If likes what he sees, he's going to find the way to pay for the content, but if you take him somewhere where the girl can't be found later, like a tour or harass him into a sign up page, you've lost a potential customer and I've lost a comission.

anne 09-12-2006 07:32 PM

Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com :)

:) jane

Pleasurepays 09-12-2006 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anne
Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com :)

:) jane

why does your program have 2 names? are they related?

i'm confused.

although i admit i am strangly attracted to the cow design.

thricer 09-12-2006 08:50 PM

good point there, lol

videodoll 09-12-2006 08:54 PM

just because you're a lesbian doesn't mean you have to be a pair of lesbians. I don't understand the draw of a lesbian if they are not in a pair, anyone could call themself one. Then again, the majority of ladies in pairs who claim to be lesbians on these sites are just women hard up for cash. Perhaps we are all lesbians when there is payout involved.

Pleasurepays 09-12-2006 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videodoll
just because you're a lesbian doesn't mean you have to be a pair of lesbians. I don't understand the draw of a lesbian if they are not in a pair, anyone could call themself one. Then again, the majority of ladies in pairs who claim to be lesbians on these sites are just women hard up for cash. Perhaps we are all lesbians when there is payout involved.

when the surfer wants to see lesbians live... i think any idiot can agree that a single girl is not what he is looking for.

he didn't seek out "live lesbians" because he was looking for a stimulating, live discussion about human sexuality in the year 2006 and gay issues - he is looking for two cute chicks who will touch each other.

Kevsh 09-12-2006 09:37 PM

I didnt' read all the above posts, so forgive if this has been said ... but there are lesbians who perform solo too. Though I do agree that typically on a "webcam" site if I'm pushing lesbians I expect to see a couple.

In this case, could it just be an error?
Or for this site there were no lesbian couples online at that moment, so the script defaults to solo girls?

Gillespie 09-13-2006 12:22 AM

Yes, I also thought that it could be argued that way. However, the way I see it, nobody is asking the girls "What is your sexual preference?" and paying for it. They are asking "Do you suck pussy? Show me!", which is impossible to do if you are doing a solo show unless you can pull off some serious Mandrake shit.

Gillespie 09-13-2006 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
Or for this site there were no lesbian couples online at that moment, so the script defaults to solo girls?

I believe the way it works is that the girls get to choose what they qualify in because I've seen no pairs on page 1, but some pairs on other pages. So basically it must look for girls that have the 'lesbian' tag in them and just display them randomly.

Gillespie 09-13-2006 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anne
Contact me we have sign up pages that go directly to the girls page. And you are right they convert much better. I just zipped up 100 different girlfolders with 8 plus images in each one of them. If you want to start promoting us let me know and I will get you the zip file. They are all catagorized by girl just need to pull out what you want to use.

ps if you cant read the sig the url is www.moocash.com :)

:) jane

Hi Jane,

I checked out Moocash and the whole cow thing was quite funny. However, there's an annoying ticking sound that just wouldn't stop and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on until I scrolled down.

Regarding the webcams, are those live shots in the thumbnails? Also, do you have some sort of script that creates what is seen in that screenshot above for websites?

Gillespie 09-13-2006 10:09 AM

Bump for an answer from Jane.

TampaToker 09-13-2006 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie
Hi Jane,

I checked out Moocash and the whole cow thing was quite funny. However, there's an annoying ticking sound that just wouldn't stop and I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on until I scrolled down.

Took me a minute to figure out what it was too :1orglaugh

Xenophage 09-13-2006 10:21 AM

See if this is something you can use :)

You can also link direct to a models bio

http://cams.com/p/cams/view.cgi?stre...ede&action=bio

Juilan 09-13-2006 10:23 AM

With AWE you can send to a live lesbian landing page with 2 babes in each thumb (3 are live right now here) or direct to profile pages :)

tranza 09-13-2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby
Another note to webcam programs :winkwink:

Get at least 100 decent (not green tinted) screengrabs 320x240 of each niche zipped up, without watermarks and each named with the cam host nick (or network ID if you must) - thank you :)

I second that.

Dwreck 09-13-2006 10:36 AM

Gillespie,

When I saw your initial post I decided to log in and see if by chance this was happeing to WebcamCash as well.

Well I tested and tested and lesbians show up every time. :)

Here is a quick screen shot from a random attempt.
http://www.webcamcash.com/pics/gfy/lesbianiframe.jpg

Try it out yourself http://www.webcamcash.com/int/AffiliateIFrame there is a multitude of custom options that is fun to play with and tweak your creative.

You can link to any page from model's bio page to the join form at WebcamCash. Simple add a small bit of code and the end of the string and your good to go


Webby,

Those are bad ass suggestions. I have made a note of them and we will do that. I will contact you the minute it is done.

Some interesting points being made keep it up.

Xenophage 09-13-2006 10:36 AM

Lesbian Landing pages from cams.com


Another Lesbian landing page


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Boobs 09-13-2006 10:43 AM

yes i'd like to see "teen category" actually show girls that look like they're teens

adamneve 09-13-2006 10:59 AM

Gillespie check out imlive.com through Pussycash.com we have all the niches you want and all the ads that will fit them, plus if there is anything you need to be made please hit me up and let's do it for you :)

Gillespie 09-13-2006 11:05 AM

Good stuff in this thread.

Dwreck, those don't seem to be live snapshots.

I like my current sponsor because the interface just blends in with my site and they are live, refreshing, snapshots, but I'm really hating the problems mentioned before. Also, I also like the fact that you can navigate through the available webcams, which really doesn't help much if the cams tagged 'lesbians' are full of single lesbians. Nobody gives a shit if they like girls in their personal lives; as long as they're using the 'lesbian' tag, I would really prefer if there were two pairs of tits of tits rubbing against each other.

So yeah, the main problem seems to be the filtering of tags. I'm going to check out my site and see what kind of girls I see.

Be back with the screenshot in a sec.

Kevsh 09-13-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie
Another thing I'd like to say is that they should add the option to take the surfer directly to the girl's profile instead of tours or sign up page. If the surfer clicked, it is because he has interest in that particular girl. If likes what he sees, he's going to find the way to pay for the content, but if you take him somewhere where the girl can't be found later, like a tour or harass him into a sign up page, you've lost a potential customer and I've lost a comission.

Most of the programs I promote have that option. If it isn't available in the promo tools section, contact the aff. rep and they can set you up.

For example - and correct me if I'm wrong Adam - but with PussyCash a direct link to a performer will go to the all online page by default if she/he is not online. However, there is a direct link available that will go to the profile page anyway.

A few other programs have links in their tools for both options, or just to the profile page by default.

My experience has been that conversions are better if they are redirected to the all online page - even though you wouldn't think so. Apparently, the surfer will find someone else he likes pretty quickly in most cases.

On some sites, I still send them to the profile page because I want retention on my site. I don't want the surfer to feel misled (if they are redirected, they may assume she doesn't exist, etc.) in which case he won't come back to me, or perhaps the sponsor's site.

Kevsh 09-13-2006 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie
Dwreck, those don't seem to be live snapshots.

Personally, I hate live snapshots - often enough, the photo is NOT what you want the surfer to see! She's partly offscreen, head not showing, smoking, sleeping, a blurred shot if she's moving etc. etc.

I would MUCH rather have the performer set a default image - probably her most flattering - and have that show in a live banner/frame.

:2 cents:

Gillespie 09-13-2006 11:09 AM

http://xs206.xs.to/xs206/06373/wtfv2.jpg

Gillespie 09-13-2006 11:13 AM

Thanks to all the sponsors who have made generous offers, however doing something custom-made for me is a waste of time. I'm not a big fish and I don't have massive traffic... yet.

All I'm doing are suggestions for when you guys decide to update or improve your scripts.

Gillespie 09-13-2006 11:15 AM

I'm starting to wonder if that delightgirl moves at all :1orglaugh

Gillespie 09-13-2006 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
On some sites, I still send them to the profile page because I want retention on my site. I don't want the surfer to feel misled (if they are redirected, they may assume she doesn't exist, etc.) in which case he won't come back to me, or perhaps the sponsor's site.

This is extremely important. I do not want them to think they're being mislead either, which is the reason why I'd like to see this system working better. If the sign says "Live", I want it to be that way. If she's wearing a leopard thong in the ad, she better have it on when my surfer reaches her page [another good reason why we should be able to link to a profile with a live snapshot immediately].

If I'm advertising "Live", it has to be live, no matter the disadvantage of her current snapshot showing her eating a Big Mac.

The whole point of the webcam market is that whatever the customer sees is actually happening somewhere in the world in real time. Proof of this is the fact that there is still a webcam market, even after some sponsors have started to migrate to high definition.

Unfortunately, too many assholes have already played the misleading link trick. We need to keep it as straight as possible to come off as a trustworthy site. Well, we actually need to be a trustworthy site and misleading is the first thing that will break our fragile credibility.

free4porn 09-13-2006 11:33 AM

funny thread

Maxxx9000 09-13-2006 11:40 AM

Dude use cams.com instead. It's much better...

RuthB 09-13-2006 11:49 AM

WEGCash offers Cams, we pay $20-$25 per free lifetime membership signup and we have custom ads for you.

You can select your niche, you can change colours to fit your site, and you can deliver your traffic straight through to the profile of the girl they wish to view.

If anyone needs any help getting going with WEGCash EZCams just get in touch!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email - [email protected]

:thumbsup

Gillespie 09-13-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEGRuth
...and you can deliver your traffic straight through to the profile of the girl they wish to view.

I really haven't found a way to do this with the configurable settings WEG offers.

RuthB 09-13-2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie
I really haven't found a way to do this with the configurable settings WEG offers.

I know, we just sent out a note in our newsletter and posted info on our forum so you can update your script to allow it.

Here's what you do (based on a WEGCash EZCams script)

Locate this variable: nfc=1

Change this variable to: nfc=0

And that should deliver your traffic through to the profile page of the model they're clicking. Try it, you'll like it! :pimp

We'll be updating the form/script in our backend soon to reflect the new options/variables we have to offer. In the meantime, if you need ANY help, just get in touch, I'll help you out. :thumbsup

Gillespie 09-13-2006 12:44 PM

Kickass!

Thanks!

anne 09-13-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie
Bump for an answer from Jane.

:) Hmmm i didnt notice the ticking but I have sound off because some of the banners on GFY are so irritating. Yes the those are live caps the girls make. We also have a pretty neat banner that runs a shuffle of the shows. You can see iit in use in the corner of this page http://www.ufuckhead.com/blog/

Pretty much anything can be worked out. However I think you got it right we find that the more people link direct to the bio the more the customers convert, especailly when that particular girl or couple is online.

Right now the zip file that I spoke about is mostly single girls however I am going to work on doing one for couples. and lesbians as well.

:D
jane

anne 09-13-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
why does your program have 2 names? are they related?

i'm confused.

although i admit i am strangly attracted to the cow design.


LOL you mean the moo cash and the lazy dollars and big cash crew. Yea that was a prrogramming thing and we just kept them all. For the most part we just stick with moocash however the other two are still out there and being used as well.

Xenophage 09-13-2006 02:50 PM

Push customers direct to a live model

http://cams.com/go/page/cams_view_ra...id=g733301-pct


or somehting quick you can embed in your site

http://cams.com/go/page/cams_iframe_...ml?pid=g733301

Gillespie 09-13-2006 04:24 PM

Just to clear things up, the sponsor I'm currently using, which at this point is pretty clear who it is, fixed all the problems and I'm showing at least three lesbians in the lesbian page plus sending traffic directly to the clicked girl preview feed, which is even better.

I can't say if the surfer gets redirected to the preview feed or the profile after signup is complete because I haven't tried yet.

Thanks to Ruth for the prompt and reliable service.

Lars, I saw your program and it looks good. I will see how it goes with the current sponsor, but I will try to use your program for another project I have going on.

Elli 09-13-2006 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gillespie

Lars, I saw your program and it looks good. I will see how it goes with the current sponsor, but I will try to use your program for another project I have going on.


Excellent! If you have any questions about getting started with cams.com, myself or Sean/Irish Pimp is always available :)

Pleasurepays 09-13-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anne
LOL you mean the moo cash and the lazy dollars and big cash crew. Yea that was a prrogramming thing and we just kept them all. For the most part we just stick with moocash however the other two are still out there and being used as well.

do they all have the same tools for marketing?


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