Music on the Net will Die May 21st - GoFuckYourself.com

fantasyman · 05-04-2002, 02:27 PM

This is a repost of Thor's from our CE message board - it says it all, please do your part to keep this from happening.

Here is a sort article that describes the death of Internet Radio on May 21st this month!!

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...863618,00.html

Go here to automatically fax to your local representitives and senators your disent

Just give your name and address (and that of 10 people you know <g> and the fax is done for you automatically from an automated fax service for free
http://broadcastpromotions.net/carp/carpfax.html

peace out

Amputate Your Head · 05-04-2002, 02:28 PM

tree hugger.

fantasyman · 05-04-2002, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
tree hugger.

Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.

Gemini · 05-04-2002, 02:50 PM

***and that of 10 people you know ***

This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition.

Jamie · 05-04-2002, 02:52 PM

looks like another plan by the "big boys" to put the little guys out of business.

Amputate Your Head · 05-04-2002, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman
Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

site is 404.... but I get my radio from the radio anyway.

ldinternet · 05-04-2002, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition.

... like anyone is going to find out?

RRRED · 05-04-2002, 03:16 PM

I can't get the link of the article to work.

??

nocostporn · 05-04-2002, 03:27 PM

Damn...you REALLY do take being the cliche computer nerd to the extreme...Go get in the car or turn on your home stereo...**THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**

Jakke PNG · 05-04-2002, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn
**THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**

There is? I've been locked in my basement for 23 years, my mom said there's a nuclear war outside and I'm not allowed to leave.
My mom stopped giving me food a while back and I've been feeding off rats I hunt with my ballpoint pen.

Fletch XXX · 05-04-2002, 03:47 PM

Music will be changing very soon.

The Analog Time is yet to reign.

The Overmind is Always Watching.

Kimmykim · 05-04-2002, 04:14 PM

WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

Scootermuze · 05-04-2002, 04:29 PM

Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

fantasyman · 05-04-2002, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing

SykkBoy · 05-04-2002, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

Even your oldies would be gone...this is further reaching than just "webmaster radio"

The kind of music I listen t doesn't get played on the radio....hell it barely gets played on Internet radio....what this is is the RIAA being cockwads because they missed the boat on the internet music invasion...as a former concert promoter,I've dealt with this shit a lot...these guys don't give a fuck about the artists...they only care about filling their pockets...
here's something scarier than FM and KK agreeing on something...I am in agreement with FM....this isn't about shutting down Napster clones, this is about jacking up prices on internet radio stations that are already paying to ASCAP and BMI........

Krome · 05-04-2002, 08:49 PM

I own a hell of a lot of record copyrights...you should do what we do ...10 inch dub plate..no copyright!!!

Yes you make money on legit stations but I like the pirates and that is what the internet small boys are doing...if they want my back catalogue for free they can have it!!

Dam the pirates were the only stations to play our tracks when we first started.

echo465 · 05-04-2002, 09:03 PM

** Disclaimer **
The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?

kenny · 05-04-2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
I can't get the link of the article to work.

??

http://albumside.com that link doesn't go anywhere,
I listen to the radio on the net, I'll send some names.

Theo · 05-04-2002, 09:09 PM

this sucks

among others, there are MANY large net stations that help immigrants have a contact with their country, they help culture to cross borders and a fair freedom of speech.

SykkBoy · 05-04-2002, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465
** Disclaimer **
The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?

well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?

echo465 · 05-04-2002, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2

well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?

Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).

SykkBoy · 05-04-2002, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465

Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).

what "unauthorized reproduction"?
this isn't about unauthorized reproduction...these are people who ARE ALREADY PAYING THE FEES TO ASCAP AND BMI.......jesus, maybe you should read up on this and learn more about it.....do you know that when we used to book fetival shows that we were expected to pay royalties on music we played over loudspeakers during changeovers? This isn't about not paying for the rights, this is about singling out a segment (internet broadcasters) who are already paying the normal fees and charging them more retroactively.......

bhutocracy · 05-04-2002, 11:01 PM

it's the principle, not whether you actually use it or not..

LoveAsianChicks · 05-04-2002, 11:07 PM

Pleople listen to "internet radio"?
I've never bothered with that at all.
Mp3s all the way!!!

LoveAsianChicks · 05-04-2002, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.

Just move the opperation over seas.
Setup in Hong Kong or something and there is no problem.

Singer · 05-04-2002, 11:13 PM

MP3 all the way 2, internet radio sux, especially when listening to K-man, it's the worse......

RaGe · 05-05-2002, 03:12 AM

My Soundblaster Audigy came with this awesome IM Radio Tuner program for internet radio stations, has hundreds of them sorted by category.. I like it ;) They play some pretty cool music, and there aren't any good electronica stations around here that I know of.. when I'm in the mood for that anyway

Anyway, FM, I'd fill out that form, but its for US residents only

a1ka1ine · 05-05-2002, 03:40 AM

hey, if this thing happens and america says

"no more internet radio"

..... that doesnt mean the rest of the world goes silent too, theres still millions of stations in the rest of the world, i listen to a couple hosted in japan and they stream fine.

besides there will always be pirate radios... but whats gonna happen to shoutcast.com ??? =/

funkmaster · 05-05-2002, 05:08 AM

... I hate music !

lawpal · 05-05-2002, 05:42 AM

http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

danevans · 05-05-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465
(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time.

You listen to that?? fag :D
btw, there's a good point in a1ka1ine's post - most of the big stations will probably move to non-usa servers and continue working one way or another..

Amputate Your Head · 05-05-2002, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

Fletch XXX · 05-05-2002, 11:35 AM

Nice thread guys, not to change the subject but as I read this I am learning how to control voltage and noise gates with a N64 controller... neat huh?

Digital music died when we got our hands on Moog.

http://doepfer.com/a197.htm

Kimmykim · 05-05-2002, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing

Yeah as odd as it is, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later ;)

kmanrox · 05-05-2002, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman

Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.

i sent a fax in, thx for the link FM

Blondy · 06-24-2002, 08:04 AM

So where do we stand today??

ControlThy · 06-24-2002, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blondy
So where do we stand today??

Your signature hurts my eyes, make it stop - please, I beg you.

05-04-2002, 02:27 PM	#1
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Music on the Net will Die May 21st This is a repost of Thor's from our CE message board - it says it all, please do your part to keep this from happening. Here is a sort article that describes the death of Internet Radio on May 21st this month!! http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...863618,00.html Go here to automatically fax to your local representitives and senators your disent Just give your name and address (and that of 10 people you know <g> and the fax is done for you automatically from an automated fax service for free http://broadcastpromotions.net/carp/carpfax.html peace out

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05-04-2002, 09:03 PM	#17
echo465 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 265	Disclaimer The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out. I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want. Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address. If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed. content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want? __________________ Currently Promoting: Adult Movie Club

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05-04-2002, 02:28 PM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	tree hugger.

05-04-2002, 02:50 PM	#4
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	*and that of 10 people you know * This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition.

05-04-2002, 02:52 PM	#5
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	looks like another plan by the "big boys" to put the little guys out of business.

05-04-2002, 03:16 PM	#8
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	I can't get the link of the article to work. ??

05-04-2002, 03:27 PM	#9
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	Damn...you REALLY do take being the cliche computer nerd to the extreme...Go get in the car or turn on your home stereo...THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET

05-04-2002, 04:14 PM	#12
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement. If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself. If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

05-04-2002, 04:29 PM	#13
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there. I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

05-04-2002, 08:49 PM	#16
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	I own a hell of a lot of record copyrights...you should do what we do ...10 inch dub plate..no copyright!!! Yes you make money on legit stations but I like the pirates and that is what the internet small boys are doing...if they want my back catalogue for free they can have it!! Dam the pirates were the only stations to play our tracks when we first started.

05-04-2002, 09:09 PM	#19
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	this sucks among others, there are MANY large net stations that help immigrants have a contact with their country, they help culture to cross borders and a fair freedom of speech.

05-04-2002, 11:01 PM	#23
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	it's the principle, not whether you actually use it or not..

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LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	Pleople listen to "internet radio"? I've never bothered with that at all. Mp3s all the way!!!

05-05-2002, 03:40 AM	#28
a1ka1ine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,387	hey, if this thing happens and america says "no more internet radio" ..... that doesnt mean the rest of the world goes silent too, theres still millions of stations in the rest of the world, i listen to a couple hosted in japan and they stream fine. besides there will always be pirate radios... but whats gonna happen to shoutcast.com ??? =/

05-05-2002, 05:08 AM	#29
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... I hate music !

05-05-2002, 05:42 AM	#30
lawpal Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 824	http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

05-05-2002, 11:35 AM	#33
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Nice thread guys, not to change the subject but as I read this I am learning how to control voltage and noise gates with a N64 controller... neat huh? Digital music died when we got our hands on Moog. http://doepfer.com/a197.htm __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Blondy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 731	So where do we stand today?? __________________ PLR Tuesday night Radio Show at 7 PM EST / click on "Listen Live".