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  • fantasyman
    Let's do some business together
    • Dec 2001
    • 973

    #1

    Music on the Net will Die May 21st

    This is a repost of Thor's from our CE message board - it says it all, please do your part to keep this from happening.

    Here is a sort article that describes the death of Internet Radio on May 21st this month!!

    http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...863618,00.html


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    peace out
  • Amputate Your Head
    There can be only one
    • Aug 2001
    • 39075

    #2
    tree hugger.
    SIG TOO BIG

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    • fantasyman
      Let's do some business together
      • Dec 2001
      • 973

      #3
      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
      tree hugger.
      Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

      This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.

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      • Gemini
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        • Jan 2001
        • 7183

        #4
        ***and that of 10 people you know ***

        This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition.
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        • Jamie
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          • Apr 2001
          • 2517

          #5
          looks like another plan by the "big boys" to put the little guys out of business.
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          • Amputate Your Head
            There can be only one
            • Aug 2001
            • 39075

            #6
            Originally posted by fantasyman
            Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.
            site is 404.... but I get my radio from the radio anyway.
            SIG TOO BIG

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            • ldinternet
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2001
              • 8245

              #7
              Originally posted by Gemini
              This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition.
              ... like anyone is going to find out?

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              • RRRED
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 6754

                #8
                I can't get the link of the article to work.

                ??

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                • nocostporn
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 5228

                  #9
                  Damn...you REALLY do take being the cliche computer nerd to the extreme...Go get in the car or turn on your home stereo...**THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**
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                  • Jakke PNG
                    ex-TeenGodFather
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 20306

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nocostporn
                    **THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**
                    There is? I've been locked in my basement for 23 years, my mom said there's a nuclear war outside and I'm not allowed to leave.
                    My mom stopped giving me food a while back and I've been feeding off rats I hunt with my ballpoint pen.
                    ..and I'm off.

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                    • Fletch XXX
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 60840

                      #11
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                      • Kimmykim
                        bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 16015

                        #12
                        WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

                        If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

                        If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

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                        • Scootermuze
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 4513

                          #13
                          Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
                          I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

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                          • fantasyman
                            Let's do some business together
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 973

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kimmykim
                            WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

                            If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

                            If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.
                            Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing

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                            • SykkBoy2
                              Jesus loves bacon
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 19969

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scootermuze
                              Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
                              I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.
                              Even your oldies would be gone...this is further reaching than just "webmaster radio"

                              The kind of music I listen t doesn't get played on the radio....hell it barely gets played on Internet radio....what this is is the RIAA being cockwads because they missed the boat on the internet music invasion...as a former concert promoter,I've dealt with this shit a lot...these guys don't give a fuck about the artists...they only care about filling their pockets...
                              here's something scarier than FM and KK agreeing on something...I am in agreement with FM....this isn't about shutting down Napster clones, this is about jacking up prices on internet radio stations that are already paying to ASCAP and BMI........
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                              • Krome
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 2851

                                #16
                                I own a hell of a lot of record copyrights...you should do what we do ...10 inch dub plate..no copyright!!!

                                Yes you make money on legit stations but I like the pirates and that is what the internet small boys are doing...if they want my back catalogue for free they can have it!!


                                Dam the pirates were the only stations to play our tracks when we first started.

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                                • echo465
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 265

                                  #17
                                  ** Disclaimer **
                                  The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

                                  I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

                                  Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

                                  If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

                                  content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

                                  Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?
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                                  • kenny
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 7245

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RRRED
                                    I can't get the link of the article to work.

                                    ??
                                    http://albumside.com that link doesn't go anywhere,
                                    I listen to the radio on the net, I'll send some names.
                                    7

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                                    • Theo
                                      HAL 9000
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 34515

                                      #19
                                      this sucks
                                      among others, there are MANY large net stations that help immigrants have a contact with their country, they help culture to cross borders and a fair freedom of speech.

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                                      • SykkBoy2
                                        Jesus loves bacon
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 19969

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by echo465
                                        ** Disclaimer **
                                        The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

                                        I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

                                        Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

                                        If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

                                        content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

                                        Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?
                                        well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?
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                                        • echo465
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                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 265

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SykkBoy2


                                          well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?
                                          Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

                                          (Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).
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                                          • SykkBoy2
                                            Jesus loves bacon
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 19969

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by echo465


                                            Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

                                            (Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).
                                            what "unauthorized reproduction"?
                                            this isn't about unauthorized reproduction...these are people who ARE ALREADY PAYING THE FEES TO ASCAP AND BMI.......jesus, maybe you should read up on this and learn more about it.....do you know that when we used to book fetival shows that we were expected to pay royalties on music we played over loudspeakers during changeovers? This isn't about not paying for the rights, this is about singling out a segment (internet broadcasters) who are already paying the normal fees and charging them more retroactively.......
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                                            • bhutocracy
                                              Not making A Comeback
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 10218

                                              #23
                                              it's the principle, not whether you actually use it or not..

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                                              • LoveAsianChicks
                                                Registered User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 1464

                                                #24
                                                Pleople listen to "internet radio"?
                                                I've never bothered with that at all.
                                                Mp3s all the way!!!

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                                                • LoveAsianChicks
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 1464

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fantasyman


                                                  Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

                                                  This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.
                                                  Just move the opperation over seas.
                                                  Setup in Hong Kong or something and there is no problem.

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                                                  • Singer
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 437

                                                    #26
                                                    MP3 all the way 2, internet radio sux, especially when listening to K-man, it's the worse......
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                                                    • RaGe
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 1158

                                                      #27
                                                      My Soundblaster Audigy came with this awesome IM Radio Tuner program for internet radio stations, has hundreds of them sorted by category.. I like it ;) They play some pretty cool music, and there aren't any good electronica stations around here that I know of.. when I'm in the mood for that anyway

                                                      Anyway, FM, I'd fill out that form, but its for US residents only
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                                                      • a1ka1ine
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 3387

                                                        #28
                                                        hey, if this thing happens and america says

                                                        "no more internet radio"

                                                        ..... that doesnt mean the rest of the world goes silent too, theres still millions of stations in the rest of the world, i listen to a couple hosted in japan and they stream fine.

                                                        besides there will always be pirate radios... but whats gonna happen to shoutcast.com ??? =/

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                                                        • funkmaster
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 7938

                                                          #29
                                                          ... I hate music !

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                                                          • lawpal
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                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 824

                                                            #30
                                                            http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

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                                                            • danevans
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 1295

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by echo465
                                                              (Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time.
                                                              You listen to that?? fag :D
                                                              btw, there's a good point in a1ka1ine's post - most of the big stations will probably move to non-usa servers and continue working one way or another..
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                                                              • Amputate Your Head
                                                                There can be only one
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 39075

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.
                                                                SIG TOO BIG

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                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 60840

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nice thread guys, not to change the subject but as I read this I am learning how to control voltage and noise gates with a N64 controller... neat huh?

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                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 16015

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by fantasyman


                                                                    Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing
                                                                    Yeah as odd as it is, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later ;)

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                                                                    • kmanrox
                                                                      aka K-Man
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 29295

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fantasyman


                                                                      Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

                                                                      This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech.

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                                                                      • Blondy
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                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 731

                                                                        #36
                                                                        So where do we stand today??

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                                                                        • ControlThy
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 1909

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Blondy
                                                                          So where do we stand today??
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