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fantasyman 05-04-2002 02:27 PM

Music on the Net will Die May 21st
 
This is a repost of Thor's from our CE message board - it says it all, please do your part to keep this from happening.

Here is a sort article that describes the death of Internet Radio on May 21st this month!!

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...863618,00.html


Go here to automatically fax to your local representitives and senators your disent

Just give your name and address (and that of 10 people you know <g> and the fax is done for you automatically from an automated fax service for free
http://broadcastpromotions.net/carp/carpfax.html

peace out :cool-as-a

Amputate Your Head 05-04-2002 02:28 PM

tree hugger.

fantasyman 05-04-2002 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
tree hugger.
Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech. :cool-as-a

Gemini 05-04-2002 02:50 PM

***and that of 10 people you know ***

This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition. :warning

Jamie 05-04-2002 02:52 PM

looks like another plan by the "big boys" to put the little guys out of business.

Amputate Your Head 05-04-2002 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman
Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.
site is 404.... but I get my radio from the radio anyway.

ldinternet 05-04-2002 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
This is illegal and invalidates the peririon ya' kno'... You canNOT sign someone ELSE's name to a petition. :warning
... like anyone is going to find out? :winkwink:

RRRED 05-04-2002 03:16 PM

I can't get the link of the article to work.

??

nocostporn 05-04-2002 03:27 PM

Damn...you REALLY do take being the cliche computer nerd to the extreme...Go get in the car or turn on your home stereo...**THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**

Jakke PNG 05-04-2002 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
**THERE IS LIFE OFF THE NET**
There is? I've been locked in my basement for 23 years, my mom said there's a nuclear war outside and I'm not allowed to leave.
My mom stopped giving me food a while back and I've been feeding off rats I hunt with my ballpoint pen.

Fletch XXX 05-04-2002 03:47 PM

Music will be changing very soon.

The Analog Time is yet to reign.

The Overmind is Always Watching.

Kimmykim 05-04-2002 04:14 PM

WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

Scootermuze 05-04-2002 04:29 PM

Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

fantasyman 05-04-2002 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
WTF kind of nonsense is this? Ron's actually trying to make a public service announcement.

If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.

If you do happen to listen to any of Dokks shows, Evan radio, any of the Netpond or PLR shows, then maybe you give a fuck and you'll want to send a copy of the petition out.

Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing :)

SykkBoy 05-04-2002 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scootermuze
Seems to me that the shows such as albumside, with the interviews and business talk would be fine and can stay on. Just don't play music. Don't know any harm there would be there.
I listen to a station on the net that plays my kind of oldies that I can't get on a radio, so the demise of that would piss me off, but other than that, I'm not really sure I understand what there is to get upset about when you have a radio in the same room anyway probably.

Even your oldies would be gone...this is further reaching than just "webmaster radio"

The kind of music I listen t doesn't get played on the radio....hell it barely gets played on Internet radio....what this is is the RIAA being cockwads because they missed the boat on the internet music invasion...as a former concert promoter,I've dealt with this shit a lot...these guys don't give a fuck about the artists...they only care about filling their pockets...
here's something scarier than FM and KK agreeing on something...I am in agreement with FM....this isn't about shutting down Napster clones, this is about jacking up prices on internet radio stations that are already paying to ASCAP and BMI........

Krome 05-04-2002 08:49 PM

I own a hell of a lot of record copyrights...you should do what we do ...10 inch dub plate..no copyright!!!

Yes you make money on legit stations but I like the pirates and that is what the internet small boys are doing...if they want my back catalogue for free they can have it!!


Dam the pirates were the only stations to play our tracks when we first started.

echo465 05-04-2002 09:03 PM

** Disclaimer **
The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?

kenny 05-04-2002 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RRRED
I can't get the link of the article to work.

??

http://albumside.com that link doesn't go anywhere,
I listen to the radio on the net, I'll send some names.

Theo 05-04-2002 09:09 PM

this sucks :(
among others, there are MANY large net stations that help immigrants have a contact with their country, they help culture to cross borders and a fair freedom of speech.

SykkBoy 05-04-2002 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465
** Disclaimer **
The following opinion is not the popular one. Hear me out.

I really don't see what the argument here is.. The record companies own the music, they should be able to set whatever rates they want.

Lets say that you shoot content, and there were a few thousand 'Internet video' services that show content slideshows 24/7. Now, most of these video services did pay you the $25 or whatever for the content CD, but now they're streaming it (and other content) to anyone that can manage to type in their website address.

If I were the content provider, i'd be pretty pissed.

content cd's have license agreements, music cd's don't

Well yeah, for now. Is that what you want?

well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?

echo465 05-04-2002 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


well how would you feel if they decided they wanted to charge you more for the content and make it retro-active?

Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).

SykkBoy 05-04-2002 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465


Well, if I had been told from the beginning that "Unauthorized reproduction of this recording is prohibited by federal law and subject to criminal prosecution", then I would feel afraid of being in a Federal prison!

(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time. On the back, in the lower left hand corner. All rights reserved. Unauthorized reproduction of this quote is prohibited by federal law, and subject to getting bitch slapped).

what "unauthorized reproduction"?
this isn't about unauthorized reproduction...these are people who ARE ALREADY PAYING THE FEES TO ASCAP AND BMI.......jesus, maybe you should read up on this and learn more about it.....do you know that when we used to book fetival shows that we were expected to pay royalties on music we played over loudspeakers during changeovers? This isn't about not paying for the rights, this is about singling out a segment (internet broadcasters) who are already paying the normal fees and charging them more retroactively.......

bhutocracy 05-04-2002 11:01 PM

it's the principle, not whether you actually use it or not..

LoveAsianChicks 05-04-2002 11:07 PM

Pleople listen to "internet radio"?
I've never bothered with that at all.
Mp3s all the way!!! :thumbsup

LoveAsianChicks 05-04-2002 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech. :cool-as-a

Just move the opperation over seas.
Setup in Hong Kong or something and there is no problem.

Singer 05-04-2002 11:13 PM

MP3 all the way 2, internet radio sux, especially when listening to K-man, it's the worse......

RaGe 05-05-2002 03:12 AM

My Soundblaster Audigy came with this awesome IM Radio Tuner program for internet radio stations, has hundreds of them sorted by category.. I like it ;) They play some pretty cool music, and there aren't any good electronica stations around here that I know of.. when I'm in the mood for that anyway :)

Anyway, FM, I'd fill out that form, but its for US residents only :(

a1ka1ine 05-05-2002 03:40 AM

hey, if this thing happens and america says

"no more internet radio"

..... that doesnt mean the rest of the world goes silent too, theres still millions of stations in the rest of the world, i listen to a couple hosted in japan and they stream fine.

besides there will always be pirate radios... but whats gonna happen to shoutcast.com ??? =/

funkmaster 05-05-2002 05:08 AM

... I hate music !

lawpal 05-05-2002 05:42 AM

http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

danevans 05-05-2002 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by echo465
(Quote taken from the CD insert of Brittney Spears, Baby one more time.
You listen to that?? fag :D
btw, there's a good point in a1ka1ine's post - most of the big stations will probably move to non-usa servers and continue working one way or another..

Amputate Your Head 05-05-2002 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
If you don't listen in on any of the radio shows, or listen to music on the radio, then it doesn't fucking apply to you so you can keep your peanut gallery comments to yourself.
:(

Fletch XXX 05-05-2002 11:35 AM

Nice thread guys, not to change the subject but as I read this I am learning how to control voltage and noise gates with a N64 controller... neat huh?

Digital music died when we got our hands on Moog.

http://doepfer.com/a197.htm

Kimmykim 05-05-2002 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Wow KK, we finally agree on something, amazing :)

Yeah as odd as it is, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later ;)

kmanrox 05-05-2002 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman


Amputate Your Head - Dokk, of http://albumside.com has been paying RIAA and other licensing for over 3 years - if this passes he will not be able to afford the increase it imposes.

This goes for all Inernet music - instead of name calling, protect your freedom of speech. :cool-as-a


i sent a fax in, thx for the link FM

Blondy 06-24-2002 08:04 AM

So where do we stand today??

ControlThy 06-24-2002 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blondy
So where do we stand today??
Your signature hurts my eyes, make it stop - please, I beg you.


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