Federal Agents Bust Porn Ring in Orlando

[stevo]

Distributors of "Toilet Man 6", "Bukkake 3", and "Scat Pleasures" arrested.

In what appears to be a Department of Justice first, federal officials today included the word "bukkake" in a press release announcing the arrest of a Brazilian man for allegedly distributing obscene material.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l?link=rssfeed
http://www.wftv.com/news/9812385/detail.html

[Webby]

Already covered in this thread Stevo :

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/653233-bush-arresting-bukkake.html

But sure worth hightlighing again to make it known there is the new "bukkake" area the DOJ find unsavory.

[czarina]

darn it! those stupid bushy people keep on messing with us. Why didn't that stingray poke Bush instead?

[Libertine]

Ah man, the description of that vid is hilarious

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk4.html



Oh, and another blow to freedom of expression, which isn't quite as hilarious

[bdld]

they shouldve been locked up years ago

[Lykos]

thats bulshit....

[CIVMatt]

Guess my days of shatting on chicks is over

[pornguy]

That is one that could cause some major trouble

[directfiesta]

For the lazy ones, here is the video ( of the news ... ):

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/wmv/vo...12559.300k.asx

[pr0]

dude....bukkake will be around forever

we're here, were bukkake fans, get used to it!

[Sly]

Messing with scat material in any country isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. Well, maybe except Germany, haha.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by pr0

dude....bukkake will be around forever

we're here, were bukkake fans, get used to it!

Doubt it was the bukkake part that got the bullseye on them lol.

[Pimpin_J]

Thats just fucked up!

[GatorB]

Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

[gornyhuy]

Originally Posted by GatorB

if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

Right - just like he's had to answer for what a fuckup he's been in soooo many other areas.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

For the lazy ones, here is the video ( of the news ... ):

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/wmv/vo...12559.300k.asx

Hehe...

The modus operandi of the law is almost always the same (unless a noob officer is involved) - and based on the concept of "there is never a hurry to act - give the perp more rope"

This case officer gave em since 2003 - know another who waited (various times over cases), but up to seven years part-time on one to let it develop to fruition - my kinda girl - smart

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Ah man, the description of that vid is hilarious

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk4.html



Oh, and another blow to freedom of expression, which isn't quite as hilarious

Lol, yeah really

[american pervert]

this is what happens when you send stuff through the us postal service.. the postal inspectors will fuck your day up. they are worse then cops or feds. this is the person to worry about pissing off. fuck with the mail and you go to jail. use the mail to do bad shit, you go to jail.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

I am not a bush lover but shitting and pissing is over the top has been over the top for a long time. People are going to have to get over the I can do whatever I want, those days unfortunately are over. Im not defending their actions but people better wake up.Also bukkake was thrown for good measure, it was the least of his problems.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by tony404

I am not a bush lover but shitting and pissing is over the top has been over the top for a long time. People are going to have to get over the I can do whatever I want, those days unfortunately are over. Im not defending their actions but people better wake up.Also bukkake was thrown for good measure, it was the least of his problems.

Agree Tony - would never have even gone near these areas ("niches"?) anyway - whether it's legal or not.

Only my but think there is a matter of judgement involved. Any media publisher/editor defines their own standards - a webmaster publishing on the web has the same choices and responsibilities.

[SleazyDream]

i'm assuming shit is defined as obsine in US law?


discuss

[tony286]

yes it is and has been for a long long time. So is fisting and pissing, be right or wrong people cant seem to get a grip on the fact you want to push the edge.You have to be ready to deal with the consequences.

[Boobzooka]

But on these fundies "most obscene"" list right up there with scat and bukkake and fisting is gay and interracial and anal and the list just keeps going until they get to something you promote.

[spasmo]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'm assuming shit is defined as obsine in US law?

But of course. I get all obscene every morning after my first cup of coffee.

[CraigA]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

Great points. And his ass is in the White House until January 2009 so look for more of the same for the next two plus years.
Frankly it's disgusting what he's being allowed to do to this country, and the vast majority of the sheep in the US don't have a fuckin' clue. If they did, he wouldn't be in office.

[LiveDose]

I think some of these gmen need to get laid.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by czarina

darn it! those stupid bushy people keep on messing with us. Why didn't that stingray poke Bush instead?

Bush?

Orlando has never been a safe place for porn. Almost all their tax dollars and revenue comes from Disney World and other theme parks... and practically every 3rd building outside of a downtown area in that state is a church. They have always been very clear that they dont want that stuff there. They have busted people there for years... even busting people for doing cam shows.

you would have to be an idiot to be in Florida and sell that kind of extreme porn.

[pocketkangaroo]

I personally find that stuff utterly disgusting. It actually makes me sick just reading about it.

However, it should not be the job of the government to tell us what is obscene and not obscene. Their job is to protect us and serve us, not be the judge of what is morally acceptible. I find the actions disgusting, but if people enjoy it, they should have a right to do it and view it.

[Klen]

O my.Whatta disgusting content.

[PlugRush Sascha]

The kids distributing the porn weren't even arrested. That's craziness.

[pussyluver]

From the descriptions, sounds like a fairly gross movie, OK very gross. Hard to argue it is not obscene, but you start with this and where does it end up? Loss of more freedoms!

Our industry and society as a whole needs to exercise some SELF restraint to protect our freedoms. If we don't, the government will for us.

This applies to porn that is over the top as well as docu-dramas.

[gooddomains]

Scat isn't that bad

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I personally find that stuff utterly disgusting. It actually makes me sick just reading about it.

However, it should not be the job of the government to tell us what is obscene and not obscene. Their job is to protect us and serve us, not be the judge of what is morally acceptible. I find the actions disgusting, but if people enjoy it, they should have a right to do it and view it.

Smart answer ... and I would hope more people in this business would see the common sense of it ..

But no, they arefast to judge that these acts are extreme ( by their standards ) and should be banned ...

I am not interested into getting shitted on ... but if people want to see/do it, be my guest .
I am also revolted of sucking two cocks ... so maybe this should also be banned ... disgust also with the puking/chocking content ... Banned ! ....

[crockett]

Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?

[RawAlex]

crocket, the postal inspector is the deal because the videos were delivered by the mail - it is a very serious offence to ship obscene material across state lines (interstate transport of obscene material), and the post office has their own "police" to check for these sorts of things.

All the way back to Amateur Action BBS, the postal inspectors have been on the job.

Two lessons to learn from this situation:

Lesson 1: Don't promote scat, watersports, or 5 finger fisting, and certianly not all together.

Lesson 2: Don't send it through the mail. Selling videos through the mail, what with the issue of "community standards", it is a kill every time.

The online part will very likely never really make it through court, as they would have to prove that Orlando is the community of record for the online stuff, and they would have to prove that the website owner caused the transport or distribution (not clear in legal terms)... this one will come down to the standard "obscene stuff through the mail" and 5 year later, it will all be over.

[PlugRush Sascha]

Originally Posted by crockett

Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?

Because the postal inspector was into watching scat and bukkake porn?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

crocket, the postal inspector is the deal because the videos were delivered by the mail - it is a very serious offence to ship obscene material across state lines (interstate transport of obscene material), and the post office has their own "police" to check for these sorts of things.

All the way back to Amateur Action BBS, the postal inspectors have been on the job.

Two lessons to learn from this situation:

Lesson 1: Don't promote scat, watersports, or 5 finger fisting, and certianly not all together.

Lesson 2: Don't send it through the mail. Selling videos through the mail, what with the issue of "community standards", it is a kill every time.

The online part will very likely never really make it through court, as they would have to prove that Orlando is the community of record for the online stuff, and they would have to prove that the website owner caused the transport or distribution (not clear in legal terms)... this one will come down to the standard "obscene stuff through the mail" and 5 year later, it will all be over.

Yea I understand that.. That's why you should always use FedEx or UPS and never the US postal office.. I just wouldn't have thought it would have been the postal inspector that did the actual investigation.

I figured an investigation like this would be carried out by the FBI and not the post office..

[RawAlex]

Directfiesta, here's the deal. 40 years ago, a naked breast on a movie would cause an uproar. Then movies like Behind the Green Door and Deep Throat came along and pushed back the barriers a very, very long way. Most standard sexual acts (including groups, lesbianism, bisexuality, gay, and group sex) are pretty much free and in the clear these days.

However, there are some things that are just not entirely acceptable at this point (or the majority of people who would express an opinion are not tolerant of it). Most people could stand to watch a girl take a cumshot on her face, but most people wouldn't be able to watch someone take a shit on her face.

Because of the "community standards" way of judging obscenity, you always have to think of what the most conservative people would think. Many of them are not ready for full fist fucking, gonzo choking and puking videos, or cleveland steamers. They aren't there yet.

Give them a chance to catch up... it took them almost 40 years to accept the idea that some adult material is protected free speech, and it will likely take them another 40 to leave us alone on most of the normal stuff.

I don't think we get anywhere trying to (pardon the pun) jam it down their throats until the choke on it.

[RawAlex]

Postal Inspectors are a great source for the federal government because the rules of the mail allow them to open and inspect packages without a warrant. No probable cause required, just "random checks". It stands up well in court, there is no privacy in your mail in reality.

Otherwise, the feds would have had to builda whole case up and get a judge to sign off on a warrant. Can you imaging the work otherwise? Postal Inspectors are like a free pass.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Postal Inspectors are a great source for the federal government because the rules of the mail allow them to open and inspect packages without a warrant. No probable cause required, just "random checks". It stands up well in court, there is no privacy in your mail in reality.

Otherwise, the feds would have had to builda whole case up and get a judge to sign off on a warrant. Can you imaging the work otherwise? Postal Inspectors are like a free pass.

Yea I never knew they could actually do that.. I just knew it wasn't smart to ship any kind of porn via the US mail.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea I never knew they could actually do that.. I just knew it wasn't smart to ship any kind of porn via the US mail.

its not just things that involve mail i think. i believe that CP investigations also typically involve the postal service because for whatever reasons, they have some role in the cross border parts of it. its one of the bigger reasons that people don't get busted often - because they have to involve so many government agencies and departments in the country of origin and the country where they are investigating.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea I understand that.. That's why you should always use FedEx or UPS and never the US postal office..

Read the actual court documents, and you will see that they also had movies shipped thru FedEx ...

RawAlex, I am 54 years old ... and in this business and others since 1976 ... So I really don't need you to explain to me what I lived thru and witnessed ...

BTW, I distributed Devil in Miss Jones in Canada, among 100 of theatrical releases I did .... yes, before VHS existed, there was porn

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by crockett

Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?

the guy used the postal service to send his videos.. postal inspector can open and inspect the mail. any more dumb questions?

[DBS.US]

Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?

no... i am not 100% sure but the issues are not about "using the post office" - but about shipping across state lines etc. and i seriously doubt that the applicable laws define "mailing" or "via mail" "mail order" or whatever the relevant language is, is defined as just using the "post office".

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by DBS.US

Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?

yes, the gov't would then need a warrent to access the material, unless fedex /ups/ dhl just gave it up.

you really dont own the mail when its in transit, its properity of the gov't. you dont even own your mailbox, thats gov't properity too.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

no... i am not 100% sure but the issues are not about "using the post office" - but about shipping across state lines etc. and i seriously doubt that the applicable laws define "mailing" or "via mail" "mail order" or whatever the relevant language is, is defined as just using the "post office".

sorry, but your wrong. my father worked at the post office for over 40 years and was a postmaster and i also worked at the post office in highschool.

fedex and us mail are 2 totally different things with different laws pertaining to them.

mail is united states postal service mail.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by american pervert

sorry, but your wrong. my father worked at the post office for over 40 years and was a postmaster and i also worked at the post office in highschool.

fedex and us mail are 2 totally different things with different laws pertaining to them.

mail is united states postal service mail.

thanks.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

thanks.

np ;-)

also, you should fedex b/c its faster and has online package tracking

[jerseygto]

I work for fedex for 17 years now and to tell the gods honest truth the company is soo greedy they can really care what you ship unless somebody tiped thm off or it gotten broken open nobody would know what is being shipped....and the whole thing well... there is some shit in this business i dont agree with butttt we are supposed to have freedom of speech and soforth which is why cant cuss at work and not get a talking to!! this country is gonna do what ever it wants anyway what bout our homless/jobless or the high crime areas that dont improve but then we are in everyone elses business but our own!!!someone has a hard on for the porn guy but the guy with no job who can walk is tryin to husle you for a dollar and puts his hands on you and you might go to jail cause you push him off!!