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stevo 09-08-2006 05:45 PM

Federal Agents Bust Porn Ring in Orlando
 
Distributors of "Toilet Man 6", "Bukkake 3", and "Scat Pleasures" arrested.

In what appears to be a Department of Justice first, federal officials today included the word "bukkake" in a press release announcing the arrest of a Brazilian man for allegedly distributing obscene material.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l?link=rssfeed
http://www.wftv.com/news/9812385/detail.html

Webby 09-08-2006 05:49 PM

Already covered in this thread Stevo :

fucking-around-and-business-discussion/653233-bush-arresting-bukkake.html

But sure worth hightlighing again to make it known there is the new "bukkake" area the DOJ find unsavory.

czarina 09-08-2006 05:51 PM

darn it! those stupid bushy people keep on messing with us. Why didn't that stingray poke Bush instead?

Libertine 09-08-2006 05:56 PM

Ah man, the description of that vid is hilarious :1orglaugh

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk4.html

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh, and another blow to freedom of expression, which isn't quite as hilarious :(

bdld 09-08-2006 05:57 PM

they shouldve been locked up years ago

Lykos 09-08-2006 06:50 PM

thats bulshit....

CIVMatt 09-08-2006 06:51 PM

Guess my days of shatting on chicks is over :(

pornguy 09-08-2006 06:51 PM

That is one that could cause some major trouble

directfiesta 09-08-2006 10:20 PM

For the lazy ones, here is the video ( of the news ... ):

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/wmv/vo...12559.300k.asx

pr0 09-08-2006 10:23 PM

dude....bukkake will be around forever

we're here, were bukkake fans, get used to it! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sly 09-08-2006 10:28 PM

Messing with scat material in any country isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. Well, maybe except Germany, haha.

stickyfingerz 09-08-2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
dude....bukkake will be around forever

we're here, were bukkake fans, get used to it! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Doubt it was the bukkake part that got the bullseye on them lol.

Pimpin_J 09-08-2006 10:31 PM

Thats just fucked up!

GatorB 09-08-2006 10:33 PM

Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

gornyhuy 09-08-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

Right - just like he's had to answer for what a fuckup he's been in soooo many other areas.

Webby 09-08-2006 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
For the lazy ones, here is the video ( of the news ... ):

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/wmv/vo...12559.300k.asx

Hehe...

The modus operandi of the law is almost always the same (unless a noob officer is involved) - and based on the concept of "there is never a hurry to act - give the perp more rope" :)

This case officer gave em since 2003 - know another who waited (various times over cases), but up to seven years part-time on one to let it develop to fruition - my kinda girl - smart :winkwink:

SomeCreep 09-08-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine
Ah man, the description of that vid is hilarious :1orglaugh

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0907061bukk4.html

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh, and another blow to freedom of expression, which isn't quite as hilarious :(

Lol, yeah really :1orglaugh

american pervert 09-08-2006 10:58 PM

this is what happens when you send stuff through the us postal service.. the postal inspectors will fuck your day up. they are worse then cops or feds. this is the person to worry about pissing off. fuck with the mail and you go to jail. use the mail to do bad shit, you go to jail.

tony286 09-08-2006 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

I am not a bush lover but shitting and pissing is over the top has been over the top for a long time. People are going to have to get over the I can do whatever I want, those days unfortunately are over. Im not defending their actions but people better wake up.Also bukkake was thrown for good measure, it was the least of his problems.

Webby 09-08-2006 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404
I am not a bush lover but shitting and pissing is over the top has been over the top for a long time. People are going to have to get over the I can do whatever I want, those days unfortunately are over. Im not defending their actions but people better wake up.Also bukkake was thrown for good measure, it was the least of his problems.

Agree Tony - would never have even gone near these areas ("niches"?) anyway - whether it's legal or not.

Only my :2 cents: but think there is a matter of judgement involved. Any media publisher/editor defines their own standards - a webmaster publishing on the web has the same choices and responsibilities.

SleazyDream 09-08-2006 11:39 PM

i'm assuming shit is defined as obsine in US law?


discuss

tony286 09-08-2006 11:42 PM

yes it is and has been for a long long time. So is fisting and pissing, be right or wrong people cant seem to get a grip on the fact you want to push the edge.You have to be ready to deal with the consequences.

Boobzooka 09-08-2006 11:53 PM

But on these fundies "most obscene"" list right up there with scat and bukkake and fisting is gay and interracial and anal and the list just keeps going until they get to something you promote.

spasmo 09-08-2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i'm assuming shit is defined as obsine in US law?

But of course. I get all obscene every morning after my first cup of coffee.

CraigA 09-08-2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB
Meanwhile somewhere in the US some Al Queada or Timothy McVeigh wannabees are planning an attack on us soil. Busting this shit meanwhile the athrax killer(s) are still free 5 years later. Fact is if Gore or Kerry was President we wouldn't be wasting precious manpower and resources on this shit. It'd be funny( not really, but you get my point ) if some group did a terrorist attack on Disney World then Bush would have to answer why he was wasting time busting porn when in the same area terrorists were plotting an attack.

Great points. And his ass is in the White House until January 2009 so look for more of the same for the next two plus years.
Frankly it's disgusting what he's being allowed to do to this country, and the vast majority of the sheep in the US don't have a fuckin' clue. If they did, he wouldn't be in office.

LiveDose 09-08-2006 11:56 PM

I think some of these gmen need to get laid.

Pleasurepays 09-09-2006 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina
darn it! those stupid bushy people keep on messing with us. Why didn't that stingray poke Bush instead?

Bush?

Orlando has never been a safe place for porn. Almost all their tax dollars and revenue comes from Disney World and other theme parks... and practically every 3rd building outside of a downtown area in that state is a church. They have always been very clear that they dont want that stuff there. They have busted people there for years... even busting people for doing cam shows.

you would have to be an idiot to be in Florida and sell that kind of extreme porn.
:2 cents:

pocketkangaroo 09-09-2006 03:41 AM

I personally find that stuff utterly disgusting. It actually makes me sick just reading about it.

However, it should not be the job of the government to tell us what is obscene and not obscene. Their job is to protect us and serve us, not be the judge of what is morally acceptible. I find the actions disgusting, but if people enjoy it, they should have a right to do it and view it.

Klen 09-09-2006 05:33 AM

O my.Whatta disgusting content.

PlugRush Sascha 09-09-2006 06:00 AM

The kids distributing the porn weren't even arrested. That's craziness.

pussyluver 09-09-2006 06:19 AM

From the descriptions, sounds like a fairly gross movie, OK very gross. Hard to argue it is not obscene, but you start with this and where does it end up? Loss of more freedoms!

Our industry and society as a whole needs to exercise some SELF restraint to protect our freedoms. If we don't, the government will for us.

This applies to porn that is over the top as well as docu-dramas.

gooddomains 09-09-2006 06:37 AM

Scat isn't that bad

directfiesta 09-09-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
I personally find that stuff utterly disgusting. It actually makes me sick just reading about it.

However, it should not be the job of the government to tell us what is obscene and not obscene. Their job is to protect us and serve us, not be the judge of what is morally acceptible. I find the actions disgusting, but if people enjoy it, they should have a right to do it and view it.

Smart answer ... and I would hope more people in this business would see the common sense of it ..

But no, they arefast to judge that these acts are extreme ( by their standards ) and should be banned ...

I am not interested into getting shitted on ... but if people want to see/do it, be my guest .
I am also revolted of sucking two cocks ... so maybe this should also be banned ... disgust also with the puking/chocking content ... Banned ! ....

crockett 09-09-2006 11:34 AM

Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?

RawAlex 09-09-2006 11:39 AM

crocket, the postal inspector is the deal because the videos were delivered by the mail - it is a very serious offence to ship obscene material across state lines (interstate transport of obscene material), and the post office has their own "police" to check for these sorts of things.

All the way back to Amateur Action BBS, the postal inspectors have been on the job.

Two lessons to learn from this situation:

Lesson 1: Don't promote scat, watersports, or 5 finger fisting, and certianly not all together.

Lesson 2: Don't send it through the mail. Selling videos through the mail, what with the issue of "community standards", it is a kill every time.

The online part will very likely never really make it through court, as they would have to prove that Orlando is the community of record for the online stuff, and they would have to prove that the website owner caused the transport or distribution (not clear in legal terms)... this one will come down to the standard "obscene stuff through the mail" and 5 year later, it will all be over.

PlugRush Sascha 09-09-2006 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?

Because the postal inspector was into watching scat and bukkake porn?

crockett 09-09-2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
crocket, the postal inspector is the deal because the videos were delivered by the mail - it is a very serious offence to ship obscene material across state lines (interstate transport of obscene material), and the post office has their own "police" to check for these sorts of things.

All the way back to Amateur Action BBS, the postal inspectors have been on the job.

Two lessons to learn from this situation:

Lesson 1: Don't promote scat, watersports, or 5 finger fisting, and certianly not all together.

Lesson 2: Don't send it through the mail. Selling videos through the mail, what with the issue of "community standards", it is a kill every time.

The online part will very likely never really make it through court, as they would have to prove that Orlando is the community of record for the online stuff, and they would have to prove that the website owner caused the transport or distribution (not clear in legal terms)... this one will come down to the standard "obscene stuff through the mail" and 5 year later, it will all be over.

Yea I understand that.. That's why you should always use FedEx or UPS and never the US postal office.. I just wouldn't have thought it would have been the postal inspector that did the actual investigation.

I figured an investigation like this would be carried out by the FBI and not the post office..

RawAlex 09-09-2006 11:46 AM

Directfiesta, here's the deal. 40 years ago, a naked breast on a movie would cause an uproar. Then movies like Behind the Green Door and Deep Throat came along and pushed back the barriers a very, very long way. Most standard sexual acts (including groups, lesbianism, bisexuality, gay, and group sex) are pretty much free and in the clear these days.

However, there are some things that are just not entirely acceptable at this point (or the majority of people who would express an opinion are not tolerant of it). Most people could stand to watch a girl take a cumshot on her face, but most people wouldn't be able to watch someone take a shit on her face.

Because of the "community standards" way of judging obscenity, you always have to think of what the most conservative people would think. Many of them are not ready for full fist fucking, gonzo choking and puking videos, or cleveland steamers. They aren't there yet.

Give them a chance to catch up... it took them almost 40 years to accept the idea that some adult material is protected free speech, and it will likely take them another 40 to leave us alone on most of the normal stuff.

I don't think we get anywhere trying to (pardon the pun) jam it down their throats until the choke on it.

RawAlex 09-09-2006 11:48 AM

Postal Inspectors are a great source for the federal government because the rules of the mail allow them to open and inspect packages without a warrant. No probable cause required, just "random checks". It stands up well in court, there is no privacy in your mail in reality.

Otherwise, the feds would have had to builda whole case up and get a judge to sign off on a warrant. Can you imaging the work otherwise? Postal Inspectors are like a free pass.

crockett 09-09-2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Postal Inspectors are a great source for the federal government because the rules of the mail allow them to open and inspect packages without a warrant. No probable cause required, just "random checks". It stands up well in court, there is no privacy in your mail in reality.

Otherwise, the feds would have had to builda whole case up and get a judge to sign off on a warrant. Can you imaging the work otherwise? Postal Inspectors are like a free pass.

Yea I never knew they could actually do that.. I just knew it wasn't smart to ship any kind of porn via the US mail.

Pleasurepays 09-09-2006 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Yea I never knew they could actually do that.. I just knew it wasn't smart to ship any kind of porn via the US mail.

its not just things that involve mail i think. i believe that CP investigations also typically involve the postal service because for whatever reasons, they have some role in the cross border parts of it. its one of the bigger reasons that people don't get busted often - because they have to involve so many government agencies and departments in the country of origin and the country where they are investigating.

directfiesta 09-09-2006 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Yea I understand that.. That's why you should always use FedEx or UPS and never the US postal office..

Read the actual court documents, and you will see that they also had movies shipped thru FedEx ...

RawAlex, I am 54 years old ... and in this business and others since 1976 ... So I really don't need you to explain to me what I lived thru and witnessed ...

BTW, I distributed Devil in Miss Jones in Canada, among 100 of theatrical releases I did .... yes, before VHS existed, there was porn :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

american pervert 09-09-2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Why the Fuck was the postal inspector doing the investigation?


the guy used the postal service to send his videos.. postal inspector can open and inspect the mail. any more dumb questions?

DBS.US 09-09-2006 12:32 PM

Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?

Pleasurepays 09-09-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US
Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?

no... i am not 100% sure but the issues are not about "using the post office" - but about shipping across state lines etc. and i seriously doubt that the applicable laws define "mailing" or "via mail" "mail order" or whatever the relevant language is, is defined as just using the "post office".

american pervert 09-09-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US
Would it be differnt if he used FedX or UPS?


yes, the gov't would then need a warrent to access the material, unless fedex /ups/ dhl just gave it up.

you really dont own the mail when its in transit, its properity of the gov't. you dont even own your mailbox, thats gov't properity too.

american pervert 09-09-2006 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
no... i am not 100% sure but the issues are not about "using the post office" - but about shipping across state lines etc. and i seriously doubt that the applicable laws define "mailing" or "via mail" "mail order" or whatever the relevant language is, is defined as just using the "post office".



sorry, but your wrong. my father worked at the post office for over 40 years and was a postmaster and i also worked at the post office in highschool.

fedex and us mail are 2 totally different things with different laws pertaining to them.

mail is united states postal service mail.

Pleasurepays 09-09-2006 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by american pervert
sorry, but your wrong. my father worked at the post office for over 40 years and was a postmaster and i also worked at the post office in highschool.

fedex and us mail are 2 totally different things with different laws pertaining to them.

mail is united states postal service mail.

thanks.
:)

american pervert 09-09-2006 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
thanks.
:)


np ;-)

also, you should fedex b/c its faster and has online package tracking

jerseygto 09-09-2006 01:17 PM

I work for fedex for 17 years now and to tell the gods honest truth the company is soo greedy they can really care what you ship unless somebody tiped thm off or it gotten broken open nobody would know what is being shipped....and the whole thing well... there is some shit in this business i dont agree with butttt we are supposed to have freedom of speech and soforth which is why cant cuss at work and not get a talking to!! this country is gonna do what ever it wants anyway what bout our homless/jobless or the high crime areas that dont improve but then we are in everyone elses business but our own!!!someone has a hard on for the porn guy but the guy with no job who can walk is tryin to husle you for a dollar and puts his hands on you and you might go to jail cause you push him off!!


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