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Old 09-08-2006, 02:54 AM   #1
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I've had it with all you conspiracy idiots - answer me this or shut up from now on

So it was a missile that entered the Pentagon. Then where did the plane go with all its passengers and crew?

Give me good explanation and i will stfu from now on and if you idiots cant then you stfu from now on. Deal?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:56 AM   #2
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why do you care about conspiracy theories so much?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:57 AM   #3
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wasnt a missle, or plane....
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why do you care about conspiracy theories so much?

I dont? At all?
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wasnt a missle, or plane....

Ok a bomb, a cockroach with dynamite attached or superman, i dont care. Where did the plane go?
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I know whats gonna happen. Everybody is gonna post all the "evidence" they heard about in loose change and nobody is gonna answer where the plane went.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:06 AM   #7
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uhh, plane.
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I'm no conspiracy theorist, but before they come showing you where the plane is you have to prove the plane existed to begin with.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:11 AM   #9
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I'm no conspiracy theorist, but before they come showing you where the plane is you have to prove the plane existed to begin with.
What plane was that??
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:13 AM   #10
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Conspiracy theory?

..well I think we`re just to "little" things on Terra to find out what really happened.
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I'm no conspiracy theorist, but before they come showing you where the plane is you have to prove the plane existed to begin with.

And the 60 people that were on it also are made up? Want me to dig up the names for you? And also of the crew?
Americans can do a lot but they cant create fake planes, fake crew, fake passengers etc.
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And the 60 people that were on it also are made up? Want me to dig up the names for you? And also of the crew?
Americans can do a lot but they cant create fake planes, fake crew, fake passengers etc.
I'm not saying its not like that but I imagine if the government could fake a plane crash they could fake a phonecall and some John doe names
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Where did the plane go?
melted down.

not many things can withstand 2000°C temperatures
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:23 AM   #14
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melted down.

not many things can withstand 2000°C temperatures

I think you understood me wrong.
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I'm not saying its not like that but I imagine if the government could fake a plane crash they could fake a phonecall and some John doe names

No seriously, they cant fake 60 passengers + crew + their families.

Plus a plane + air traffic controlers etc.
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then why not release all video footages recorded that day ? I know they so far allowed only 1 short, grainy video to be seen. why the big secrecy ?
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No seriously, they cant fake 60 passengers + crew + their families.

Plus a plane + air traffic controlers etc.
I'm not really familiar with the news, cause I don't really care, but

were the families verified ? If so by who ? We all know their media is censored.
The FBI took all the tapes from the path of the supposed plane.
I doubt none of those caught the plane, if they had it why don't just release
it and remove all doubt ? And don't give me some national security bullshit.

Are we supposed to believe that the Pentagon was supervised by some 1 frame/2s cameras ?
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No seriously, they cant fake 60 passengers + crew + their families.

Plus a plane + air traffic controlers etc.

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melted down.

not many things can withstand 2000°C temperatures
And not many 135' wings with 6 ton engines, with titanium parts, can just bend
at 500 mph, get through a 16' hole, and evaporate..

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I know whats gonna happen. Everybody is gonna post all the "evidence" they heard about in loose change and nobody is gonna answer where the plane went.
This will be one of the famous mysteries of this century.
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Old 09-08-2006, 04:22 AM   #22
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I'm not really familiar with the news, cause I don't really care, but

were the families verified ? If so by who ? We all know their media is censored.
The FBI took all the tapes from the path of the supposed plane.
I doubt none of those caught the plane, if they had it why don't just release
it and remove all doubt ? And don't give me some national security bullshit.

Are we supposed to believe that the Pentagon was supervised by some 1 frame/2s cameras ?
Not to mention the eye witness accounts.. some said missile, some said small plane...ump-de-ump..

Had a plane the size of a 757 (flown by a guy that couldn't fly) flown over , hunkered down and hit the bldg, there'd be witnesses out the ass that would have seen it.. Gee.. wonder where they all are...

Sure didn't have a problem seeing the 2 that hit the wtc.. and they weren't going much slower..
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No seriously, they cant fake 60 passengers + crew + their families.

Plus a plane + air traffic controlers etc.
Atc reported picking up a small craft...
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Where is the proof that those 60+ passangers and crew actually existed? prove that and then ill prove that no plane was there
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Strangely they can pull terrorist names out of their ass, give no answer as to why many of these people they claimed to be 9/11 terrorists are still actually alive and thats ok.

Now I'm not saying this is true, I am not even calling this a theory of any sorts, its purely a thought. If world governments have no problem testing chemicals on their citizens or sending them off to war to die by the thousands why would they even think twice about rounding up 60 people who were supposed to take a flight and killing them?
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Where is the proof that those 60+ passangers and crew actually existed? prove that and then ill prove that no plane was there
Are you saying that they fabricated 60+ people, entire life histories of these individuals, tricked everyone at the airport that a plane was leaving, tricked everyone into thinking 60+ people were going on an airplane, tricked everyone at the airport into thinking that the thing flying out of the airport was a plane, tricked everyone at air traffic control, talked American Airlines into setting up a fake flight, talked American Airlines into saying they lost a plane, hired actors to portray family members of those who lost their lives to pretend to grieve, talked other countries into creating false people who were on this flight that never existed, and on and on?

So not only is the US government doing all this, they also have American Airlines on their side, the insurance companies that paid out millions to families, and many foreign governments on their side?

Considering this is a country that has people in power who think the Internet is made of tubes, you are sure giving the government a lot of credit.
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Now I'm not saying this is true, I am not even calling this a theory of any sorts, its purely a thought. If world governments have no problem testing chemicals on their citizens or sending them off to war to die by the thousands why would they even think twice about rounding up 60 people who were supposed to take a flight and killing them?
So you're saying they flew the plane to a remote location and killed everyone on it? All without tipping off a single air traffic controller or American Airlines?
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And the 60 people that were on it also are made up? Want me to dig up the names for you? And also of the crew?
Americans can do a lot but they cant create fake planes, fake crew, fake passengers etc.
Yes please dig up the Names and the crew....then find out why we never hear anything from them or about them ????
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Yes please dig up the Names and the crew....then find out why we never hear anything from them or about them ????
http://sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer...ines_flight_77

As for what you hear about them, many of the individuals have a brief bit of background on them on the site. You can also find articles on a lot of them too. Run a google search on just about everyone on that list and you'll find an article written in some paper or a tribute by family and friends.
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So it was a missile that entered the Pentagon. Then where did the plane go with all its passengers and crew?

Give me good explanation and i will stfu from now on and if you idiots cant then you stfu from now on. Deal?
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An interesting theory if nothing else.
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why would the government give its country the worst day of the history of america for a reason to go to war with afghan.

Surely all they would need is to fabricate a much smaller building blowing up and blaming that on terrorists, that would justify a war, rather than blowing up america's pride and joy. theres so little logic behind the conspricy
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Oh Franck, you should know by now that it's not up to a conspiracy theorist to prove anything, just to question the already present proof... or, lack there of.

It's not some brain malfunction that causes these questions, it's not some "idiot" gene they all share... it's a simple need to question things, such as... the lack of plane, the lack of damage to the lawn, the lack of wing damage to the building, yatta yatta yatta.

This raises questions.... not a need to prove anything contrary. Just a desire to know if what they're being told is true or not.

So to ask someone to speculate what happened to the plane is just that, speculation. To question what happened to the plane is a perfectly normal piece of human curiosity.
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Are you saying that they fabricated 60+ people, entire life histories of these individuals, tricked everyone at the airport that a plane was leaving, tricked everyone into thinking 60+ people were going on an airplane, tricked everyone at the airport into thinking that the thing flying out of the airport was a plane, tricked everyone at air traffic control, talked American Airlines into setting up a fake flight, talked American Airlines into saying they lost a plane, hired actors to portray family members of those who lost their lives to pretend to grieve, talked other countries into creating false people who were on this flight that never existed, and on and on?

So not only is the US government doing all this, they also have American Airlines on their side, the insurance companies that paid out millions to families, and many foreign governments on their side?

Considering this is a country that has people in power who think the Internet is made of tubes, you are sure giving the government a lot of credit.

Couldnt have said it better. Its insane to think 60 people were made up. Its not just 60 people. 100's of of people would have to be involved making it simply impossible.
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Yes please dig up the Names and the crew....then find out why we never hear anything from them or about them ????

Huh? Plenty is known about them.
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Where is the proof that those 60+ passangers and crew actually existed? prove that and then ill prove that no plane was there
http://sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer...ines_flight_77

If you think these people and their families and their history and everyone related are made up then there is seriously something wrong with you.
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Oh Franck, you should know by now that it's not up to a conspiracy theorist to prove anything, just to question the already present proof... or, lack there of.

It's not some brain malfunction that causes these questions, it's not some "idiot" gene they all share... it's a simple need to question things, such as... the lack of plane, the lack of damage to the lawn, the lack of wing damage to the building, yatta yatta yatta.

This raises questions.... not a need to prove anything contrary. Just a desire to know if what they're being told is true or not.

So to ask someone to speculate what happened to the plane is just that, speculation. To question what happened to the plane is a perfectly normal piece of human curiosity.
The problem with the conspiracy theorists is that they go too far. They go from coming up with insightful questions to making outlandish and unsubstantiated claims.

Is the government hiding crap from 9/11? Of course. What is it? Probably the fact that they are morons and weren't prepared and still aren't prepared. They are saving their jobs, not covering up some crazy conspiracy theory.

People who come up with this crap don't have an ounce of common sense. So it wasn't a plane that hit? So what happened to the 60+ people who boarded a plane that day and never came home? Are you telling me that hundreds of US government employees, American Airlines employees, air traffic controllers, witnesses on the ground, foreign countries, and relatives of the people who died are all in on this? That not one of them would break the biggest story in the history of modern civilization? That not one of them would leak this? That not one of them would sell their story?

Come on. This government leaks EVERYTHING. If something was up, it would be front page of every news source in the world within minutes. Some of you guys make good points on things and I'm sure some things the government lied about, but when you go too far, you kill all credibility you have.
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Are you saying that they fabricated 60+ people, entire life histories of these individuals, tricked everyone at the airport that a plane was leaving, tricked everyone into thinking 60+ people were going on an airplane, tricked everyone at the airport into thinking that the thing flying out of the airport was a plane, tricked everyone at air traffic control, talked American Airlines into setting up a fake flight, talked American Airlines into saying they lost a plane, hired actors to portray family members of those who lost their lives to pretend to grieve, talked other countries into creating false people who were on this flight that never existed, and on and on?

So not only is the US government doing all this, they also have American Airlines on their side, the insurance companies that paid out millions to families, and many foreign governments on their side?

Considering this is a country that has people in power who think the Internet is made of tubes, you are sure giving the government a lot of credit.

they do this type of thing all the time for security training and admittedly were doing training ops that day.........ps, how do you know i exist
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bah im tired of your crap....you obviously have issues with the whole event or you wouldnt still be pushing it.

Listen to stuartd he is one of the voices of reason in this thread.
why dont you do some research of your own Franck? use governement and educational sites such as universities etc....find out exactly what happened to that plane...and see if it is indeed true that the very plane that was supposed to have blown up into the pentagon through a tiny hole in the wall was actually blown up....did air traffic controllers spot it elsewhere down the road?

no one wants to prove anything to someone who just spouts back insults...arguing with you is going downhill these days.....do some research on your own....have an open mind..stay off conspiracy sites and then report back.
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bah im tired of your crap....you obviously have issues with the whole event or you wouldnt still be pushing it.

Listen to stuartd he is one of the voices of reason in this thread.
why dont you do some research of your own Franck? use governement and educational sites such as universities etc....find out exactly what happened to that plane...and see if it is indeed true that the very plane that was supposed to have blown up into the pentagon through a tiny hole in the wall was actually blown up....did air traffic controllers spot it elsewhere down the road?

no one wants to prove anything to someone who just spouts back insults...arguing with you is going downhill these days.....do some research on your own....have an open mind..stay off conspiracy sites and then report back.
He is asking a legit question. What happened to the plane? What happened to the people on it? How did they get so many people, countries, companies, and family members in on this without saying anything?
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at 500 mph, get through a 16' hole, and evaporate..

Please don't reply with the photo of the one little engine part..
Please cite other plane crashes where a plane travelling at almost full cruising speed impacted a bomb-resistent concrete structure.
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:29 AM   #43
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bah im tired of your crap....you obviously have issues with the whole event or you wouldnt still be pushing it.

Listen to stuartd he is one of the voices of reason in this thread.
why dont you do some research of your own Franck? use governement and educational sites such as universities etc....find out exactly what happened to that plane...and see if it is indeed true that the very plane that was supposed to have blown up into the pentagon through a tiny hole in the wall was actually blown up....did air traffic controllers spot it elsewhere down the road?

no one wants to prove anything to someone who just spouts back insults...arguing with you is going downhill these days.....do some research on your own....have an open mind..stay off conspiracy sites and then report back.
http://sep11.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer...ines_flight_77

Who are these people?
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So like i said what would happen, idiots like phoenix come in this thread will tell you get your head out of the sand and evidence this and evidence that but they wont answer where that plane and all the people onboard went.

Funny.

And then they tell you to do some research. When you do research and show all the names and backgrounds of the people that dissapeared they simply ignore it.
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Dude, everyone at Wikipedia is in on it too.
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So like i said what would happen, idiots like phoenix come in this thread will tell you get your head out of the sand and evidence this and evidence that but they wont answer where that plane and all the people onboard went.

Funny.

And then they tell you to do some research. When you do research and show all the names and backgrounds of the people that dissapeared they simply ignore it.

you quoted wikipedia man...dont discredit yourself right away.

go to a real source of info...not on that is changed on whim.....fuckin wikipedia..lol


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you quoted wikipedia man...dont discredit yourself right away.

go to a real source of info...not on that is changed on whim.....fuckin wikipedia..lol


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Retard...err i mean phoenix. Where did the plane and all its passengers and crew go?
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Dude, everyone at Wikipedia is in on it too.

Yeah they are told by the fbi to list these fake names. So are the tons of other sites that list those names. If we have to believe all the theories about 9/11 about 5k people are involved in the biggest cover up in history. Without a single leak.
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Retard...err i mean phoenix. Where did the plane and all its passengers and crew go?

truthfully i dont know man..i wasnt there thankfully..i imagine some were killed...some were in on it...much easier to have a plane full of cronies.

all it would take someone serious is to show them photos all their family members at h ome or at work..and anyone working for them would never say a damn thing

we are talking about the same goup who keeps robbing the usa of billions of dollars...see 1980 savings and loan scams...see decades of SEC fraud and who controls it

it is all there if you want to look for it

where did the billions and billions of dollars of gold go from the WTC?
how did building 7 fall?
why was all the evidence shipped away and not even FEMA was allowed to touch it...who is above FEMA?
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you quoted wikipedia man...dont discredit yourself right away.

go to a real source of info...not on that is changed on whim.....fuckin wikipedia..lol


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http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/tra...7.victims.html

USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...e-flight77.htm

Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...8970-2001Sep12

I can find a list from every major news source in the world if you want.
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