explain how a supposed plane just picks lampposts out of the ground and throws them on the ground..when in other instances it had a much much different effect.

look for it yourself

That is because the part was made by Honeywell. It's an auxillary turbine. Of course Rolls Royce said the part wasn't theres, because it wasn't.

nice of ABC to go against the clinton name as the demos might put a clinton to the forefront of the race coming soon

dont be so easily spun

You do realize that 180 billion dollars in gold is 80 billion dollars more than the ENTIRE US GOLD RESERVE. Not to mention that 180 billion dollars in gold would be 60% of the entire worlds gold.

That part of you movie was de-bunked, and the makers of Loose Change took it out in the next version when they learned it was factually impossible. :winkwink:

please show us how much moneyis in the gold reserve...lol

no gov agency has been let into there since it was signed over to private interestes by Woodrow Wilson

HISTORY

also..it was gold belonging to many countries not just the usa

If no one has been in there and knows, how did you know it was 180 billion?

You do realize that 180 billion is 60% of all the worlds gold. Besides it being impossible to move, there has not been a single claim of missing gold.

You do also realize that the reserve DOESN'T OWN THE GOLD. They hold it for people and OTHER COUNTRIES. Do you not think other countries would be pissed to find out that their gold was missing? Also, don't you think the gold market would be a tad messed up if HALF THE GOLD IN THE WORLD WAS STOLEN.

Come on, use some common sense. Even the guys at Loose Change admitted this mistake and took it out of the video.

Watched the video still don't see a plane. Dosen't look like the planes hitting the world trade center. They fucking brought the thing down. The Pentagon had a little fucking hole in it. I know that was a piece of shit security cam that caught the supposed plane crash on, but still did not look like a plane.

http://www.rediff.com/money/2001/nov/17wtc.htm

You can find a similar article from almost every major news source in the world on the same topic.

Can you show me the articles of those claiming they lost their gold? I mean 180 billion in gold missing, someone would have to be pissed.

And for stats on gold, here is the World Gold Council. I do hope they aren't in on the conspiracy too.

http://www.gold.org/value/stats/stat...rve/index.html

Ya don't need similar crashes to apply the most basic of physics..

Kinda strange that the point of impact was where the nose of the plane supposedly stuck.. Where a hole in a bomb resistent building was made by a nose made of very thin metal, yet 2, 6 ton engines.. both away from the hole, didn't even leave a mark..

If this was such a bomb resistent buidling, there shouldn't have been a hole at all..

and just to toss this in.. the report says the impact was on the first floor... no way in Hell a 757 could enter a bldg. that low.. The fuselage itself is higher than the first floor even sitting on the ground..

WHy is is that every question i have you answer with a question. You have absolutely no answers whatsoever. Youre an idiot.

Phoenix:

Lets say the goverment is behind this. Why they let 2 planes hit the WTC and for the pentagon they use a missile and covered it up with a plane. Made up 60 passengers and their lives and their families. Made up the whole fucking plane etc. Why not just let the plane hit the Pentagon, just like the WTC. Wouldve been way easier wouldnt it?

So were almost at page 3 and like i said nobody can answer where that plane and its passengers went.

Only loose change this and loose change that blah blah

How pathetic.

Cant you see that the fact that you cant explain where that plane went says way more than 10 hours of that idiotic video and 100 of your stupid theories?

Yes please listen to him, his initial post in this thread was directed towards conspiracy wack jobs such as yourself.

Seeing as Pratt & Whitney also builds engines for 757s, it's not so hard to believe that Rolls-Royce would deny building an engine that P&W built...

Didnt leave a mark? do you recall what the pentagon looked like?

Bomb-resistant is not the same as bomb-proof, meaning that if this plane crashed into your house the result would be alot worse.

meh.. the diameter of a 757 fuselage is less than 13' (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757...technical.html, so, it's not hard to believe that the majority of the plane clould enter on the first floor.

Yep.. This is a pic showing just left of the impact point... Nowhere can you see where a wing or engine would have struck..

There was a 6' high cable spool in the path of the supposed plane.. The spool wasn't touched, which means the plane would had to have flown over it; putting the top of the fuselage at least 20' off the ground.. well into the second story..

Some rather interesting information here if one would actually take the time to read it.. Much more involved than a losely written, "official report"..

OK it was a plane that hit the Pentagon ??? where did the plane wreckage and passengers go...?????

hey franck - aliens exist and freemasons run the world.

Frank read this from todays MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/

here's what REALLY happened to the Pentagon. I was standing outside and I turned around really quick and my huge cock slammed into the side of the building and caused all the damage.

mystery solved :thumbsup

franck needs an enema

If it's not butter then it must be Parkay

Thanks for the link...

"The 9/11 truthers share a lieutenant colonel's love of acronyms. They divide themselves into LIHOPS and MIHOPS and differences are not trifling. LIHOP stands for "Let It Happen On Purpose," which means someone inside the U.S. government intentionally let the terror conspiracy go. MIHOP means "Made It Happen On Purpose," and its gradations center on whether Bush was in or out of the loop (a surprising number believe he was clueless) and whether the Mossad or British intelligence was dealt into the deal."

Now THAT makes a lot more sense than anything mentioned previously.

"Let it happen on purpose"...I'm much more willing to believe that than the government had their hands on it directly.

Knowing what government bureaucracy is like however and hearing some of the tape recordings I've heard on the issue, I'd still tend to believe that the government just fucked up (or simply weren't prepared) and are hiding how BAD they fucked up...but "LIHOP" ISN'T out of the realm of possibility either.

Here's another good one for beleiving what your President and administration tells you so you can start a war. They would never make this stuff up : )

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14728447/

Where did the plane and its passengers go?

Several planes were hijacked that day...why not simply let a plane hit the pentagon instead of missiles? The wtc was hit by planes and almost the pentagon as well..whats so wrong with a plane that hit the pentagon??

Why would the government place bombs in the wtc? To go to war with Iraq? 2 planes crashing into the building wasnt enough?

Now answer this instead of coming up with stupid questions you heard in loose change.

And almost the Pentagon should be almost the Capitol.

Here's a question just as valid as yours. If a plane hit the Pentagon, why the fuck was there never single piece of plane wreckage found?

Any how is it possible that a plane with a wing span many many times larger then the hole in the Pentagon Wall simply vanished before impact? I think you're the conspiracy theorist, saying a plane hit the wall, when its clearly impossible for that to have happened, thats a conspiracy.... Asshat.

the first one with green nick, i see, that has something i call 'logic'

:thumbsup

Fucking moron.

So 60 people + crew + backgrounds + family + a plane were all made up?

Also the people on the airport and the air traffic controlers are part of the conspiracy as they saw the plane take off?

Are you retarded or retarded? Where in godsname did you hear about no plane wreckage found? There was plenty wreckage found. Where you do idiots get your info from?

I'm still trying to figure out why there is 0 proof or evidence that something as big as a commercial plane hit the Pentagon. I mean, something as big as that, hitting the fucking Pentagon, in this day and age, with all the cameras there are around that place, nobody has anything remotely depicting an airplane in the area.

plane got shot somewhere, was diverted and shot into the ocean.. aint that hard to do!

What does this look like to you? A pic taken very shortly after the plane hit the building.

Does that look like:
A: A missile hit the Pentagon
B: A plane with large wings hit the Pentagon

http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pen...fire-width.jpg

There was almost no wreckage found on the scene: specialist say that the temperature was so hot that a lot of metal evaporated.. strangly enough some passports(paper!!) from in the plane where found at the scene.. :disgust

Why not let the plane hit the fucking Pentagon then? Just like what happened to the WTC and almost he Capitol.

Why shoot the plane somewhere in the ocean and then let a missile hit the Pentagon??

A plane hit the Pentagon like there were weapons of mass destruction.
There was proof of WMD's rite? What happened to it?
You saw the same video I did. Did it look like a big fucking plane hitting the Pentagon?
Show us the wrekage. I forgot they covered it all up with a big tent.

+ some picture of the scene show a piece of an engine: when you look up the type of the engine you will see that that type of engine never has been used on the plane that 'hit' the pentagon!

There were parts of a plane found, some quite big. How did the get there? People quickly dropped them there after the missile hit? ALso they dug up some bodies out of the plane that was shot in the ocean and dropped them between the debris? The blackboxes? How did they get there? Also planted AFTER the missile hit the building?

there was no missile, my guess it was a bomb or so. also strange that that wing of the pentagon was closed for redecoration.. no?