so it is actually real! :o :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There are way to many arguments in this question to be answered here..

the main point is..

The official line of what happened is bullshit all the way from who did, to why the buildings collapsed...

There are way to many arguments in this question to be answered here..

the main point is..

The official line of what happened is bullshit all the way from who did, to why the buildings collapsed...

The believers are playing the game of the ones who planned the attacks (be it Al Qaida, the governement, are any other consiracy theory you might have). Their meaning was to destabilize the system. Fools crying about how jet fuel can't get that hot are just doing that: destabilizing the system.

and the pentagon:
"Plains are made of alluminium jadajadajada...." NO THEY AREN'T DO YOUR RESAERCH INSTEAD OF BELIEVING EVEYTHING SOME INTERNET MOVIE IS TRYING TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE.

I think nothing gonna happen beacuse security measures are big.Also,if democrats win next election,then they will probaly go away from Irak.

Pearl Harbour...

so silly

"We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for." - Osama bin Laden in a publicly released video.

that was realy interesting. But whatever they say - we will never no the truth.

the question is, where is the money ?
tons upon tons of gold have vanished ...
burned by jetfuel ? i doubt it ... besides,
the found molten steel six floors below
zero ... burned by jetfuel ? also, the
towers crumbled to the ground at near
free fall speed as if there was no inner
structure at all ? and yes, why the hell
did WTC7 come down ? and all these
buildings went down to a convinient
little pile doing no damage to any other
building around ... controlled demolition ...

i dont believe the officials at all ... how
long can they fool the whole nation ?

just look at their honesty about their
promise to help the people in new orleans
after kathrina ... what about the 9th
district, mostly the habitat of black
brothers ? NOTHING has happened
there, while other "white" districts are
fully rebuild already ? fuck bush !!!

We the People..........

If there WERE bombs rigged at the WTC buildings why not assume they were planted by al qaeda operatives. You know, the people who admit in videotaped interviews that they were calculating in advance the number that would be killed in the attacks?

"We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 p.m. our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmad Abu-al-((Khair)). Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center." - Osama bin Laden

"Not everybody knew. Muhammad ((Atta)) from the Egyptian family was in charge of the group." - Osama bin Laden

"The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to America but they didn't know anything about the operation, not even one letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes" - Osama bin Laden

This thread just reminds me of how long I have been on GFY. I started the first thread (under my old nick) on the day. It amazes me that people question that it was the planes. If you think you know so much more than experts why the heck are you selling porn and not out solving the great mysteries of the world?

It amazes me too.

http://linkification.com/linked/osama.gif

they will be keeping fooling as long as possible and there will be so many propositions concerning it that soon we will not know what to be believe. There are many now.

Florida setup:

Not only did informers provide money and a meeting place for Batiste and his followers, they gave them video cameras for surveillance as well as cellphones, and suggested that their first target be a Miami FBI office, court records show.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...miami0902.html

Anything is possible, mainly when you have this type of lying hawkish administration ...

hey you super clever and intelligent non-doubters of the 'official' story:

when bin laden was responsible, why isn't he wanted for 9/11?

there is no word about 9/11 on the fbi.gov site, that lists him "most wanted"...

see it your self : http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

next question: why did the towers collapse at nearly freefall speed?

final question: why did building seven collapsed?

so YOU THE PEOPLE don't care about your rights?



good night america then..

lol, yeah, non-doubters ... answer me this :::
why has ALL material been shipped to a secret
overseas location before ANY independent agency
had a chance to examine it ??? wake up, america !
or have you lost your own will and thoughts ?
only if you all shut up they'll get away with this ...
how many of your brothers and sons and fathers
have to die before they stop this machinery of lies ?

watch the loose change video and switch your brain
on ... ask yourself ... how can these buildings fall
if the empire state building is still standing ?
remember ? it was hit by a bomber and burned
for SEVERAL hours WITHOUT collapsing ... doesnt
that make ya rethink and ask yerself and the officials ?

thx overload!

the issue with the illegal destroying of the crime scene ('ground zero') is also featured in this short 30min video every american should see.. the speaker points out, that even when a airplan crashes they reconstruct it and keep every peace, doesn't matter how small it is..

and as you said overload, what happend on 9/11? the steal got shipped to china, melted and is used in new buildings.... omg
no chance for reconstruction or keeping the evidence..

Don't even get started ...
Is it not plausible that some of he beams got weakened enough that the combination of burning fuel, fires inside the building caused by the fuel, the weight of a plane's metal and whatever was inside, the impact of a plane crashing into the building, thousands of pounds of office furniture, flooring, the odd overweight temp, perhaps a loose bolt or two and who knows what else ... could have caused the first beam to collapse or break?

After that a domino effect.

Or do you have a better theory?
(Please, don't answer that... just do a search here on GFY for all the arguments ad nauseum!)

What i dont understand is why these freaks dont understand this. They just keep whining about the temp not high enough for steel to melt. As if steel has to fucking melt before it breaks down. Wtf. How hard is it to understand that a plane crashing into a building causes HUUUUUUUUUUGE damage to the structure?? Fuckings idiots.

And also the free fall thing. The building collapses and it went really fast. So that means according to these idiots that on every floor bombs went off. So if an extremely big and heavy building collapses starting near the top what is supposed to happen? Should it collaps really slow? Like every floor can hold the weight of the 20 floors above it for 10 seconds before it collapses??

frank, your just an idiot making small bucks on the internet, okay, i understand you. ;)

you don't have to see clear trough the propaganda from day 1 on. but you're a fool, if you believe the 'official' story. that's it!

hear the DEMOLITION EXPERTS and PHYSICS PhDs, speaking... and WAKE UP god damn! watch the short video!

after all, it's also your future and freedom getting fucked :321GFY

Don't you know what "freefall" means, what this word stand for? FREE FALL is FREEEEE fall!

even there were a 2 second delay per floor, the buildings would have been collapsed a lot slower!

but now delay -> free fall -> detonations

it's simple logic. do you use it? ;)

Thought this video was VERy interesting...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=loose+change+2

Very interesting if you like lies and bullshit.

So tell me, where did you get it from that if a building collapses without detonations there should be a delay. Explain that to me please Einstein.

Edit: And saying you saw it it loose change doesnt not count.

Funny btw, everytime some idiot doesnt agree with me they either start talking about my money or about my sig. Is that some kind of self protection? Jealousy? Explain that as well please elitemoron.

That eliteguy must be some kind of superman with xray vision. He knows exactly how building collaps with and without detonations and can see right through my wallet. Amazing.

oh franck don't get afraid you could be the only one left, beliving the official story of towers collapses because of fire..

as i said, it's logic.

for you franck:

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/1DKin/U1L5a.html

and then just imagine a tall skyscaper building..

how could a skyscraper collapse with nearly free fall speed without detonations..? it's unpossible. it fits in the picture, sending the steel to china, so that all evidence from explosives are vanished..

btw: you don't answered my questions..

what happend to building 7, why did it collapse? why was it 'pulled'?

This thread reminds me of when my parents used to take us to the PT Barnum museum when I was a kid.

You show an article about free fall speed totally not related to a building collapsing wtf. I know about physics. Wtf. How do you know that building cannot collaps at the same speed without detonations. Explain that to me.

okay last try for the extra dumb *joke*

but you've to answer my questions afterwards, too!

imagine one floor collapses, it falls on the floor beneath it. this goes on and on.
and every floor beneath the floors on top wich collapses are barriers, blocking the way down. so the falling mass loses energy, its short freefall (5m/10feet or what height a store has, whatever) is completly stopped.

so even the steel construction have so weakend that it was the reason for the 'collapse', the towers should have been crumbling down much much slower as we've seen it.

kapiche?

so franck, you gave up?

No i was eating lobster.

I'll get back to you in a bit.

Before i leave again i want to ask one more thing: So every floor of the wtc had hidden explosives??

Im really trying to stay serious here but its hard not to laugh at you.

What is so hard to believe that explosives brought down the tower? You see the evidence in every video of the towers collapsed.

Lobster.. eh..
Oh I had 'muslim food', turkish pizza.. yummy stuff!

it's time for you franck, to answer my questions!!

whats about building 7, every heard about it?