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elitegirls 09-07-2006 11:49 AM

the point is franck, if you watched this short 13min video, you wouldn't ask your questions.

you get all your questions answered by this EXPERT.

but if you don't see the movie, which is the topic here.. :321GFY

Dirty F 09-07-2006 11:56 AM

Ok, if you look at the videos of the building collapses. You say the building collapses at free fall speed. Well, what i am seeing is that falling debris is going way faster than the building itself. So the debris is going beyond free fall speed or something like that?

Minte 09-07-2006 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Ok, if you look at the videos of the building collapses. You say the building collapses at free fall speed. Well, what i am seeing is that falling debris is going way faster than the building itself. So the debris is going beyond free fall speed or something like that?


I think they call that warp speed.. :winkwink:
Of course some of the degreed structural engineers that have posted here are probably better qualified to answer that question.

John69 09-07-2006 12:03 PM

"Just Pull it"

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:05 PM

Also do you have any idea what a HUGE job it is to place bombs on every floor of the building and how many people would need to be involved. This alone makes the detonation theory completely retarded.

NoCarrier 09-07-2006 12:08 PM

Mr. T did it.. He threw 2 planes with his big muscles from the ground, then pushed the towers down.

http://home.neb.rr.com/freakzilla/Mr.T.jpg

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:09 PM

Of and ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:13 PM

franck you're the only one retarded here, answer my questions....

there was enuff time to plant bombs in the building due power outages, drills...

-> there is no official paper, no evidence for the official story you idiot trust.

ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING BUILDING 7!

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Of and ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

the people enaged in that terrorism controlled not only the twin towers and building seven but they rule the world. it's time that you notice it before it's to late.

but you still beg to play the slave for them. whats wrong with you?

:pimp

2477 09-07-2006 12:24 PM

Ok ...I guess I can't be the only one who doesn't way in on this. I try my best to keep an open mind, since I admit I know nothing about the way buildings fall (either by plane impact or demolishing), but I do have common sense.

It just seems odd that they came down perfectly straight. When considering other videos of different buildings getting demolished...you can't argue that there's an an almost identical similarity.

Also, the fact that when all three of the buildings fell, they took the path of maximum resistance. This would certainly cause a delay in the time they took to complete their fall...."pancaking" onto each floor has got to slow the fall at least somewhat.

Lastly, some have suggested that it wasn't the fire that brought the buildings down....(which I can't believe it was, because it was pretty clear that a massive amount of the fuel burned up immediately)....but rather the simple fact huge airplanes slammed into the buildings, weakening the structure.

Now...like I said above, I don't know how buildings are demolished, but if a plane slammed into a building thus weakening it's structure enough to result in it's eventual collapse..........wouldn't the building collapse toward the direction of the fatal blow? Picture a tree falling after it's been cut down by an axe. It falls toward the direction of where it's structure has been weakened...

If the structure was indeed weakened by the planes impact, it seems to me that there would be noticeable lean to the building prior to collapse......no?

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitegirls
franck you're the only one retarded here, answer my questions....

there was enuff time to plant bombs in the building due power outages, drills...

-> there is no official paper, no evidence for the official story you idiot trust.

ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING BUILDING 7!


Of and ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2477
Ok ...I guess I can't be the only one who doesn't way in on this. I try my best to keep an open mind, since I admit I know nothing about the way buildings fall (either by plane impact or demolishing), but I do have common sense.

It just seems odd that they came down perfectly straight. When considering other videos of different buildings getting demolished...you can't argue that there's an an almost identical similarity.

Also, the fact that when all three of the buildings fell, they took the path of maximum resistance. This would certainly cause a delay in the time they took to complete their fall...."pancaking" onto each floor has got to slow the fall at least somewhat.

Lastly, some have suggested that it wasn't the fire that brought the buildings down....(which I can't believe it was, because it was pretty clear that a massive amount of the fuel burned up immediately)....but rather the simple fact huge airplanes slammed into the buildings, weakening the structure.

Now...like I said above, I don't know how buildings are demolished, but if a plane slammed into a building thus weakening it's structure enough to result in it's eventual collapse..........wouldn't the building collapse toward the direction of the fatal blow? Picture a tree falling after it's been cut down by an axe. It falls toward the direction of where it's structure has been weakened...

If the structure was indeed weakened by the planes impact, it seems to me that there would be noticeable lean to the building prior to collapse......no?

you're right i guess 2477, common sense!

thats why franck is retarted but won't admit it....

you don't need more then common sense to see trough this 'conspiracy plot by the official criminals in the whitehouse'!

@mr. franck lobster eater: it's exactly that way! and answer my question moron! or can't you even read? i bet your a script bot! :1orglaugh

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitegirls
you're right i guess 2477, common sense!

thats why franck is retarted but won't admit it....

you don't need more then common sense to see trough this 'conspiracy plot by the official criminals in the whitehouse'!

@mr. franck lobster eater: it's exactly that way! and answer my question moron! or can't you even read? i bet your a script bot! :1orglaugh


And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:33 PM

cmon franck, tell us your opinion about wtc building 7..

or are stuck counting your braincells? i bet you've already a brain tumor from aspartam in your diet coke.. muhahah ;-)

bad joke, sorry ;)

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:46 PM

Funny how you ignore me. Lets finish this first and then discuss building 7 ok?

So ONCE AGAIN:

And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:49 PM

i asked first you completly retarded hopless idiot.

and i answered your question in post #92.

i guess you've to learn to read before taking part in a discussion..

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:52 PM

Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7.

Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

Yes or no?

Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.

yes or no?

Overload 09-07-2006 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.

more sophisticated than your feeble brain ... dont you know that
controlled demolitian detonations are ignitioned by electric pulse ?
not heat or fire will make the explosives go off; thats why its
called CONTROLLED demolition :1orglaugh

and look, you didnt even read the article about the bomber that
flew into the empire state building ... thats a wee bit older than
the twin towers were and its still standing today :321GFY and
hey, it burned several hours, dont forget about that ... and there
have been fires burning over dozens of floors in other buildings
and NONE collapsed ... how do explain this ?

lol, a frigging lil jetplane bringing down americas pride ... a big
laughter ... and WTC7 fell because dwarfs were diggin tunnels
under it, right ?

why cant you read AND understand physical basics ?

its people like you covering the administrations ass to get
away with murder for propaganda purpose ...

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:56 PM

hm franck you really think modern explosive must be handled with care?
modern explosives only explode when the shot firer wants it to do so.

otherwise you coudn't transport bombs on aircrafts to iraq for example.

don't believe the crappy answers from fema..

Dirty F 09-07-2006 12:56 PM

Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7.

Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

Yes or no?

Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.

yes or no?

directfiesta 09-07-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
And ofcourse the people who controlled the bombs had such a sophisticated system that:

The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" hahaha. RIIIIIIIGHHHHT.

Say it. Say that is what happened and you believe it. Then i know for sure you are fucked in your head.


Did it happen to you at birth , or was it an accident later on ...

My best wishes goes to you with all my sympathy....

elitegirls 09-07-2006 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload
more sophisticated than your feeble brain ... dont you know that
controlled demolitian detonations are ignitioned by electric pulse ?
not heat or fire will make the explosives go off; thats why its
called CONTROLLED demolition :1orglaugh

and look, you didnt even read the article about the bomber that
flew into the empire state building ... thats a wee bit older than
the twin towers were and its still standing today :321GFY and
hey, it burned several hours, dont forget about that ... and there
have been fires burning over dozens of floors in other buildings
and NONE collapsed ... how do explain this ?

lol, a frigging lil jetplane bringing down americas pride ... a big
laughter ... and WTC7 fell because dwarfs were diggin tunnels
under it, right ?

why cant you read AND understand physical basics ?

its people like you covering the administrations ass to get
away with murder for propaganda purpose ...


yeah, thats exactly the point overload!

i don't say it's a easy job to 'wire' all that explosives up, but it's just the most likely one - that's what most likely happend. please use common sense franck..

Dirty F 09-07-2006 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
Did it happen to you at birth , or was it an accident later on ...

My best wishes goes to you with all my sympathy....

Fuck off idiot.

Go get the 1 million dollar reward there is for evidence of a controlled demolition. Oh wait...you can't because there is no evidence.

BradM 09-07-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fuck off idiot.

Go get the 1 million dollar reward there is for evidence of a controlled demolition. Oh wait...you can't because there is no evidence.

Don't let him get to you Franck. He's an uneducated angry little frenchman. Paranoid too it seems.

Dirty F 09-07-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
He's an uneducated angry little frenchman.

:1orglaugh

elitegirls 09-07-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fuck off idiot.

Go get the 1 million dollar reward there is for evidence of a controlled demolition. Oh wait...you can't because there is no evidence.

mess with the facts franck and use your brain/common sense.. it's getting hard for you keeping 'your truth', isn't it? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:321GFY

elitegirls 09-07-2006 01:07 PM

hm bradM nice constribution to the discussion.. another stupid green nick with no own opinion. *sigh

John69 09-07-2006 01:16 PM

Larry and George used Thermite to melt the steel support beams.

directfiesta 09-07-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM
Paranoid too it seems.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

do you know at least what it means ... since you are so educated ....:upsidedow

Minte 09-07-2006 01:21 PM

It probably would've been a lot easier for them to detonate a 20kt dirty nuke in one of the elevators,that wouldn't have required a massive conspiracy of the level this thread is suggesting.

A government that couldn't get national guard in place after Katrina hit,sure doesn't impress me as one that could pull off such a complex conspiracy as 9/11

elitegirls 09-07-2006 01:27 PM

mint, what fema exactly did or not did in new orleans is a complet other story..!
research it for your own.. hint: checkout prisionplanet.tv and inforwars.com, also a good resource is jonesreport.com

bush wanted the people in orleans to suffer and die..

bush = hitler as i already said, history repeats itself... and most of us don't notice.

Minte 09-07-2006 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitegirls
mint, what fema exactly did or not did in new orleans is a complet other story..!
research it for your own.. hint: checkout prisionplanet.tv and inforwars.com, also a good resource is jonesreport.com

bush wanted the people in orleans to suffer and die..

bush = hitler as i already said, history repeats itself... and most of us don't notice.


That's fine,no need to research anything for me..I was in the army, Pershing nuclear missiles actually.And from that experience,I am comfortable with the fact that a massive government conspiracy is not conceivable.
I'm also not a teenager.
The internet is simply a media,with spin.Fortunately,i've lived a lot of years already and am more than experienced enough to generate my own opinions based on my own observations.
If you care to believe that the government was behind 9/11,that's your choice.I won't attempt to convert you and there is no need for you to attempt to convert me and apparently Franck.
At the end of the day,Bush is still the president.He will leave office in a few years and it will be up to history to judge whether or not he was effective.
Not you or I.

Sarah_Jayne 09-07-2006 01:38 PM

I have to say after this thread and the moon thread my opinion of Franck has gone up. We are all better off just making conspiracy theory sites and selling it to these people like we sell porn to guys who have fantasies of a porn star actually wanting to fuck them.

Webby 09-07-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADL Colin
"We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for." - Osama bin Laden in a publicly released video.

Quote:

"We had notification since the previous Thursday that the event would take place that day. We had finished our work that day and had the radio on. It was 5:30 p.m. our time. I was sitting with Dr. Ahmad Abu-al-((Khair)). Immediately, we heard the news that a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We turned the radio station to the news from Washington. The news continued and no mention of the attack until the end. At the end of the newscast, they reported that a plane just hit the World Trade Center." - Osama bin Laden

"Not everybody knew. Muhammad ((Atta)) from the Egyptian family was in charge of the group." - Osama bin Laden

"The brothers, who conducted the operation, all they knew was that they have a martyrdom operation and we asked each of them to go to America but they didn't know anything about the operation, not even one letter. But they were trained and we did not reveal the operation to them until they are there and just before they boarded the planes" - Osama bin Laden
Anything is possible Colin - the human species can be unpredictable - but when ya read total admissions by an alleged perp wasting his time babbling on tape for some strange reason and purportedly claiming to be responsible for the 9/11 attacks - is the time I'd prefer to see actual evidence instead of alleged quotes.

It would also be interesting to see who is actually responsible for issuing the words of bin Laden who was obviously very helpful with his quote: "I was the most optimistic of them all due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only."

bin Laden appears to have become a very unprofessional terrorist personality with a mouth that can't stop talking - a strange behaviour, almost boasting.

Any "perp" who also has the amazing stupidity to implicate another of his associates by name into a crime, has a lot to learn. Somehow I'd credit bin Laden with having passed Terrorism 101 and with 10 gold stars for the section on security of terrorist cells.

This quote is in total constrast to the degree of professionalism shown in all other activity in which he was purportedly involved - not just in "terrorist" activity, but in playing a role on behalf of the US in Afghanistan against the Russian invasion.

Very strange no person seems to be able to capture this very unprofessional terrorist.

Sure - people can babble, and do. Anything is possible - but excuse my sceptism :winkwink: Been there, saw that. You know where these quotes purportedly came from? ie.. who translated them and from what?

elitegirls 09-07-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte
That's fine,no need to research anything for me..I was in the army, Pershing nuclear missiles actually.And from that experience,I am comfortable with the fact that a massive government conspiracy is not conceivable.
I'm also not a teenager.
The internet is simply a media,with spin.Fortunately,i've lived a lot of years already and am more than experienced enough to generate my own opinions based on my own observations.
If you care to believe that the government was behind 9/11,that's your choice.I won't attempt to convert you and there is no need for you to attempt to convert me and apparently Franck.
At the end of the day,Bush is still the president.He will leave office in a few years and it will be up to history to judge whether or not he was effective.
Not you or I.

mint, do you know that usama bin laden is not wanted by the fbi for 9-11?
didn't you swoar an oath to defend the American constitution when you were in the military?

Yes? Then do it know and start thinking with your own brain!

Let common sense rule not fox propaganda!

Overload 09-07-2006 02:19 PM

i dont unnastand the personal insults in this thread ... the loose change video only shows us facts to think about and people using their brains clearly see the official lines are totally inconsitant to the things that actually happened ...

where are the engines of the plane that hit the pentagon ? vaporized ? i laugh my ass off ... 6 tons of steel and titanium up in smoke ? yeah like my bong goes up in smoke when having a puff ... totally rats fake info ...

where are the tapes confiscated by the FBI from sheraton hotel and other places ? if they show proof that a plane hit the pentagon, why not make them available for public ? huh ? its so easy to proof it - IF they COULD ... but they CANT ... you dont need to be highly educated to see this was a big pull off to make way for ther iraq war ... but keep being ignorant and i'll predict the next war ... iran is building the "fat boy" and will be invaded next ... and your fellows will be called in to fight another "saddam" for having weapons of mass destruction ... NONE has been found in iraq but you still believe your leader (this word has a special bitter taste for me coz i am german) ... bush = hitler ... yes, a big betrayer of his country ... keep closing you reyes until the facts show you how wrong you were ...

elitegirls 09-07-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
I have to say after this thread and the moon thread my opinion of Franck has gone up. We are all better off just making conspiracy theory sites and selling it to these people like we sell porn to guys who have fantasies of a porn star actually wanting to fuck them.


sarah, you're blonde right? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry but only a dumb ass blonde idiot chick could make such fucking funny comments in a message board. *roflmao

you better beware of was its going on your we can all shutdown our business.. no more selling porn, work in secret prisions is the best you can achieve in the new world oder :2 cents:

Sarah_Jayne 09-07-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitegirls
sarah, you're blonde right? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sorry but only a dumb ass blonde idiot chick could make such fucking funny comments in a message board. *roflmao

you better beware of was its going on your we can all shutdown our business.. no more selling porn, work in secret prisions is the best you can achieve in the new world oder :2 cents:


I am sorry but you are clearly a moron.

elitegirls 09-07-2006 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overload
i dont unnastand the personal insults in this thread ... the loose change video only shows us facts to think about and people using their brains clearly see the official lines are totally inconsitant to the things that actually happened ...

where are the engines of the plane that hit the pentagon ? vaporized ? i laugh my ass off ... 6 tons of steel and titanium up in smoke ? yeah like my bong goes up in smoke when having a puff ... totally rats fake info ...

where are the tapes confiscated by the FBI from sheraton hotel and other places ? if they show proof that a plane hit the pentagon, why not make them available for public ? huh ? its so easy to proof it - IF they COULD ... but they CANT ... you dont need to be highly educated to see this was a big pull off to make way for ther iraq war ... but keep being ignorant and i'll predict the next war ... iran is building the "fat boy" and will be invaded next ... and your fellows will be called in to fight another "saddam" for having weapons of mass destruction ... NONE has been found in iraq but you still believe your leader (this word has a special bitter taste for me coz i am german) ... bush = hitler ... yes, a big betrayer of his country ... keep closing you reyes until the facts show you how wrong you were ...

hallo mein fuehrer ;)
bin auch deutscher.. lol lustig dass man den amis jetzt schon ihre innenpolitik erklaeren muss :D

sorry, little chit chat if a german colleague ;)

i think this insults are the results from what i call "sheep effect". people are like sheeps, following the tales of the others without a own will or perception.
no one wants to be the 'black sheep', so just shut up, believe what you should believe and make everybody else thinking like you are.

freedom implicit responsibility.. responsibility can not be handled by everyone yet it seems..

elitegirls 09-07-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
I am sorry but you are clearly a moron.

the blonde sheep effect :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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