If you are that concerned about current US politics and that knowledgeable in WW2 history,you should recall that Hitler had his SS.I wouldn't be making to many derogatory statements about the US government on a public forum.
You just never know what they are capable of.

In the meantime,I'll use my own mind and go enjoy some dinner.
I hope you are able to solve the problems of the world..

Yes, of course I am blonde. As with everything else you are oh so accurate.

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fuck sake.

amazingly accurate summary skills

everyone has to watch this videom you can here the explosions going off as the helicopters fly over the towers then the charges go off, a very good sound recording, i have a subwoofer and it shakes my room to death.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=rick+siegel

Not going to throw a personal insult. But most of what's in loose change can hardly be classified as 'facts' ... 'fantasy' 'science fiction' 'fallacy' would be more appropriate words.

But hey.. due dilligence is for suckers, right? Feel free to call me any of the following or make any of these other statements:

A) A Sheep
B) A Republican / Bush supporter (I am neither, I canadian)
C) "You are living with your head in the sand"
D) "You watch too much CNN"
E) "Open your eyes to what's REALLY going on"

Or any other paranoid statements.

there were drills franck, that's why NORAD stand down.

do you think guys living in caves in afghanstan could do this? LOL

btw: many firefighters and policemen and a lot victims of 9/11 support the 'truth-movement'. so don't insult the immediate family of the victims you ignorant idiots!

little tip for sarah_webinc: watch alex jones new movie "terrorstorm" and register that you living in a official dictator ship!

@mint: do you tried to scare me? muha. what you mean with SS? bush has fema and secret prisions all over the world.. we only had in germany/polen..

Have you ever been to New York?

Is it even necessary to point out how ignorant a statement this is?

Alex Jones is an insane sociopath.

Everyone is comparing the building falling to others that are 1/10 the size, It was not 1 floor falling onto the next, we are talking about the whole building from where the plane hit on up falling onto the rest, I don't know how mant floors it was but your saying that the top 1/3 of the building falling should come to rest each time it hits a floor? Yes there are experts that say one thing and there are just as many that say the other, Lets just build a huge building and fly a plane into it and see what happens next

i get the picture that many of the US fellas didnt even watch the loose change video ... didnt you hear the firefighters reporting sequenced "boom boom boom" explosions coming down the towers ? unplug your heads from where ever you may have them now and GET REAL !!! its YOUR freedom sold there ! :( ... NO, re-read this, NO skyscaper in HISTORY has EVER fallen just because of a fire; even if a plane hit it ... and it will NEVER happen because they are build with 3x security ... this is just silly ... how could a aluminium construction EVER hit a concrete (steel armored) construction THAT hard ???

@ elitegirl ... what sites do you run ? i wanna get in touch with ya :D PM me man ... ehh, girl ? hehehe ;) ...

lol! now that was really a huge and non ignorant argument and statement from you.. respect, huge props..!!


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from whom you get your opinion, fox news? :warning

@sarah: does that matter? take 1 hour time and investigate this issue for your self, i posted the video link often enough.

here is another, already posted here through john69 though.

john69, you're right.. the bass is amazing, frightning, i just heared it again, my bass box, i got a 2.1 system. shooke the hole furniture, when it was on medium volume..:warning

I asked because if you knew New York you would know that if any city had people that would get to the bottom of a conspiracy and not rest until everyone knew it would be those people.

Anyway, I have had my limit of idiots for one week.

if Bin Laden and Al-Q were planning this event for many years in advance, why did they choose to hit early in the day before everyone got to their work? wouldn't it be smarter of them executing their plan at a later time during day?
anyone seen WTC knows it's packed between 11am-5pm

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you are very right ,great post

50%+ people in NYC don't believe the official story. Thats no news to me.

I almost took you serious till i read this.

Sorry.

Next.

franck just face the facts, and finally answere my question concerning building 7 you ignorance is killing you in the near future.

Bush Admits To CIA Torture Camps

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funny thread we have here. lot of people arguing. none of which are engineers or even have college degrees in the subjects related to this discussion.

stick to porn guys.

lol, why do i need a degree with an IQ of 140 ? heh ? it prevents me from getting fooled like 240 million americans and gives me a free mind so why bother with a degree ? ... only 911 degrees fahrenheit are enuff to burn an average american brain, so what ? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

the rick siegel movie is shocking. every reported said there was explosions.. why don't believe the eyewitnesses?

@vvq: weak argument. i only need common sense to see the holes in the 'official story'..

hey franck.. i wait for your statement to what happend to building seven to collapse?

Uhm im still waiting for my answers regarding the first 2 towers, you still didnt answer me. Lets finish that and move on to the next tower ok?

No you wont. Because answering them will make you look like even a bigger idiot and you know it. Instead you will just keep on crying about tower 7 so you dont have to answer it. You fucking imbecile.

Ok, let me make it real fucking simple for you. Just answer this and then we can move on to building 7. Understand that idiot?

Question 1: The planes crashing into the building didnt make the bombs go off.

Yes or no?

Question 2: They were able to only detonate the dynamite or whatever planted BELOW the floor where the plane entered the building. The dynamite on the higher floors was "turned off" after the plane hit the wtc.

yes or no?

Hahaha nevermind...you wont answer it. Anyway...im done with you. Waste of time. :thumbsup

No go claim that million with all your evidence hahaha :1orglaugh

Oh no, 1 more thing before im done with you:

The debris falling way faster than the building collapses...is that beyond "free fall" speed?

how many people in this thread have designed a building? how many of you have even cracked a physics or architecture book? how many forensic investigators do we have here?

what i'm saying is just about everyone in this thread has no clue what they're talking about.

i never took you serious coz you ignored all the physical facts of the story ... and i really doubt you ever considered anything else true but your own confession ... keep believing in the official lies ... even if the truth would be revealed in front of your eyes you'd still stick to the official crap and defend it ... sorry, but you need to open your eyes before you can see ... its so sad that so many people believe in the twisted lies of the administration ...

honest, look at the "pentagon impact" ... where are the engines of that jetplane ? they went up in smoke ? dude, i have friends working for honeywell and all told me they know about APUs and engines ... the fanhub found in the pentagon has NO affinity to a APU or any other device on a passenger airplane ... but its very simsilar to a cruise missile as mentioned before ... confirmed by another friend who has been in the armed forces ...

just quit all those lies and admit it ... this is a big construct of crap ...

What makes you think no one in porn has an engineering degree?
I know of at least two of us that do.Shemp and I.

However,I only dabbled in metallurgy as a mechanical engineer primarily in tool steels,not construction grade matériels.There is quite a bit of technical information available online these days regarding the loss of tensile strength in low carbon(construction) steels when exposed to heat.It's certainly not a reach to see that the initial explosion destroyed enough of the ablative matériel on the truss clips to effectively reduce the holding power.Factor in that the plane itself severed at least 20% of the vertical structural members.The remaining columns took the load until the clips finally failed after being exposed to heat.(they anneal/get softer).
I've never heard anyone technically qualified talk about or run the numbers
on the inertia generated to calculate how fast a tower like that would actually collapse.My guess it would be iffy at best.These towers were not empty shells.Elevator shafts,HVAC,large diameter sprinkler pipes,furniture glass in tension.,etc....all these things would factor in.Logic says it would start slow,as each floor collapsed and the weight became greater it would gain momentum. If the planes would've hit lower on the structure,doing the same amount of initial damage,they would have collapsed much faster than they actually did.

Cool, missile, sure...whatever you want.

Please tell me where the passengers and the crew and the plane are that is missing if that was actually a missile.

@vvg: common sense is engough to see that something can not be truth in the official story, got that?

@franck: overload and I answered you that question and you can easily answer it for you, too, when you'd watch the movies linked in this thread.

btw: your questions are very dumb and let see through your weak brain. but if you can sleep better i'll answer them for you again little kiddie:

obviously no, overload explained that to you.

yes or no, neither is a possible answer for your question. gramma wasn't your best skill in class? ;) it's also no question, it's a phrase you would like to think it's true or reality.
but thats your fantasie, thinking explosions on toop of the entry holes where the plains hit would have been tourned off/defused(? did you mean that?/or exploded/failed to explode afterwards.

no yes/or no answer is possible, because you've already created your fantasie.

and again as overload pointed out, and many demolion experts also did, it's no problem to take such a building down, even when a plan hit it.
(actually the towers were build to resist a impact from a 747! and they did..)

there were also detonations beneath or on the floor, which many eyewittnesses feld like a 'earthquake'!


please explain now the building seven collapse!

or will you surrender little slave? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cmon franck, it's clear it was no passenger jet in washington.. LOL

You do realize that Jeff King .... EXPERT.... is an M.D. (thats medical doctor) and has a degree from MIT in bio-medical engineering.....

NO expertise in structural or mechanical enginneering. No experience with explosives.

You did know that didn't you?????

Actually I was slightly off on his degree. He had a combined major of chemical engineering and physical biology.

A REAL EXPERT in analyzing building construction and collapse, as well as demolitions.... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Pulling the words of the messenger apart - Jeff King - does not change the facts.

Construction like the WTC towers (and this is no different to similar construction elsewhere) comprises of a "mesh" of steel. Penetration of that mesh has never been known to cause the total collapse of a construction anywhere - even when forced with much higher impacts in earthquakes than that of an aircraft.

So far, there is no transparency - there are lies of course issued at various pionts - example being those of FEMA "the air is safe to breath" and where the FEMA report was edited by White House Counsel to avoid stating the truth.

This is like trusting a second user car salesman to be truthful. It was the same car salesman and sales staff who verified the evidence Iraq had WMD. It was the same car salesman and sales staff who made claims of no secret camps and torture centers. It was the same car salesman and staff who vowed to capture the alleged perp, bin Laden. It was the same car salesman and staff who helped in the aftermath of Katrina.

Bottom line.. the car salesman has no cred and can't be trusted. Whether the WTC towers have "meaning" attached or not, - the fact that there is no transparency will obviously lead to conjucture/conspiracy theories. It does not take a scientist to explain why such structures "should" not collapse - tho it may take a scientist to explain why the laws of gravity were suspended on 9/11.

it was a drone plane or tomahawk missle guided in,
the FBI stole all local video tapes from local merchants.

right webby, good post!