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Old 09-02-2006, 12:38 PM   #1
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How many members you reckon FORGET to cancel their membership?

I'd say a very small %

Anybody any guesses?
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:39 PM   #2
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i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:40 PM   #3
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i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.

You fucking retard surfer, i told you to stop posting in my threads. Fuck off you moron. You know shit about shit. Fucking idiot. Fuck you piss me off.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:43 PM   #4
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:44 PM   #5
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I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure
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I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure
you obviously dont run a paysite lol
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:46 PM   #7
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I'd reckon very significant amount of rebills are actually people who forgot to cancel. Maybe 25% or so, at least.

Hell, I know how rebilling works and I still forget to cancel stuff. I've had NetZero charging my Paypal account $9.95 every month for a year for a dial-up service I needed for 2 weeks.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:47 PM   #8
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It looks like Franck has found new love in squishypimp
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:48 PM   #9
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A ton, I never cancel anything until I flip credit cards a year later. And Franck, you can't choose who posts in your public thread. Go start your own forum and invite yourself so nobody pisses you off.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:49 PM   #10
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not sure about adult but my experience was about 10-15% in the mainstream area. I usually step up and cancel their subscription myself when I see this happening. Call me a fool but I always felt I was stealing money if I am aware of it and they are not.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:50 PM   #11
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I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure

I'm sure you are totally wrong.
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It's much higher. I'd say around 80%
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:52 PM   #13
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It's much higher. I'd say around 80%

Is everybody joking or retarded?

95% of the programs out there don't even rebill 40%
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:55 PM   #14
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It looks like Franck has found new love in squishypimp
That guy drives me nuts.
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:59 PM   #15
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I'd say it's around 5-15%, not that much.

And I think that's the main reason why we get very big chargebacks. The guy figures out he's been paying for a paysite for the last 6 months without really knowing and decide to chargeback.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:00 PM   #16
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I was talking about members that converted from trial to full membership and from there on.
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Is everybody joking or retarded?

95% of the programs out there don't even rebill 40%
Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:03 PM   #18
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Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?
Still that's WAY too high.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:04 PM   #19
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I was talking about members that converted from trial to full membership and from there on.
Wtf are you talking about?
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:05 PM   #20
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Probably 50% of the 40% that rebill montly in average for a paysite just forgot to cancel their membership
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:06 PM   #21
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I'd say a lot.

I'd say the majority of rebills comes from people who forget to cancel.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:07 PM   #22
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I'd say a lot.

I'd say the majority of rebills comes from people who forget to cancel.
You forgot to bash me. What's wrong?
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:10 PM   #23
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Wtf are you talking about?
My 60% wans't for all joins combined. Example:
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90 cancel before trial ends
10 members left and from them atleast 6 forgot to cancel their membership at one pont or antother. Maybe not the first month, could aswell be very happy with the site and at one point think that its been enough and that they should cancel the membership.... and forget for another 2 months or so.
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:13 PM   #24
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My 60% wans't for all joins combined. Example:
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90 cancel before trial ends
10 members left and from them atleast 6 forgot to cancel their membership at one pont or antother. Maybe not the first month, could aswell be very happy with the site and at one point think that its been enough and that they should cancel the membership.... and forget for another 2 months or so.
ok.

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Old 09-02-2006, 01:15 PM   #25
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As a site owner i have no fucking idea and i dont care.....as long as my rebill % stays over 50% i'm happy
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Old 09-02-2006, 01:15 PM   #26
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I'd say a very small %

Anybody any guesses?
I'd say 5% or less.

That being said, a webmaster I know who used to run his own small solo girl paysite has one user who he got nearly 4 years worth of rebills out of without the guy ever revisiting the site after he joined up.
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You forgot to bash me. What's wrong?
You didn't act stupid this time.

I couldn't come up with a sound reason to bash you.
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You didn't act stupid this time.

I couldn't come up with a sound reason to bash you.

Fair enough.
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Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?

Thanks for explaining the obvious to him.
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why bother asking if you shoot everyone down who repsonds and call the a nOOb?
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why bother asking if you shoot everyone down who repsonds and call the a nOOb?

Fuck off noob.
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id say its somewhere around 262784%
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I've had a rebill going since February of '03. It's got to be someone who forgot. I think the number would be really high- especially for the first one to three months.



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What extra information would this number give?
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What extra information would this number give?
Says alot about the billing model this industry relies on. Imagine that visa would change the rules tomorrow: every member has to confirm their membership monthly by clicking some button...
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Says alot about the billing model this industry relies on. Imagine that visa would change the rules tomorrow: every member has to confirm their membership monthly by clicking some button...
That would never happen. It would knock out a significant amount of their mainsteam revenue. Cable bills, subscriptions etc.
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Old 09-02-2006, 02:18 PM   #40
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Big percentage of the rebillers forgets, or doesn't know how, or is driven around in circles untill the company explains to them how to cancle. Good 60% i would say.
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a lot, i dont know a % figure though. some of these end up turning into chargebacks.
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It is a very good question. Too bad I cant ask my members, in case they actually DID forget. lol...
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Multimonth rebills seem to be easier to forget. Getting the monthly notification (For those billers that do send it) tends to remind them to cancel.
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I have been watching for that and right now with last months rebills 5% did not login to the site for that month, The other 95 had at least one time, I don't have 1000's of members either and if i did it would take a lot of time to figure it out
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if you own a site why don't you ask members who are cancelling to fill out a simple form.

Just ask why they are cancelling their membership and what made them only stay a member for a month/stay for several months?
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I have one dude I'm sure he has forgotten, lol. He rebills since 10 months by now. What a good citizen.
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i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.
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I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure
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It's much higher. I'd say around 80%
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I'd say it's around 5-15%, not that much.

And I think that's the main reason why we get very big chargebacks. The guy figures out he's been paying for a paysite for the last 6 months without really knowing and decide to chargeback.
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Probably 50% of the 40% that rebill montly in average for a paysite just forgot to cancel their membership
WTF kind of sites, and programs do you run?!?!!? Sheesh. I've never heard of, or have seen anything REMOTELY fucking close to any of these numbers in the better part of a DECADE in this business.

If this comes from your experience in this busienss, my thoughts are to go find another line of work. To the surfers in this thread, keep hitting the pipe.

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I'd say 5% or less.
Atleast THIS is in the ballpark.

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