How many members you reckon FORGET to cancel their membership?

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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    How many members you reckon FORGET to cancel their membership?

    I'd say a very small %

    Anybody any guesses?
  • squishypimp
    PostMaster General
    • Aug 2006
    • 10781

    #2
    i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.

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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204

      #3
      Originally posted by squishypimp
      i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.

      You fucking retard surfer, i told you to stop posting in my threads. Fuck off you moron. You know shit about shit. Fucking idiot. Fuck you piss me off.

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      • fris
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        • Aug 2002
        • 55729

        #4
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        • PMdave
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 1517

          #5
          I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure

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          • Trax
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            • Aug 2001
            • 14486

            #6
            Originally posted by PMdave
            I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure
            you obviously dont run a paysite lol

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            • KrisKross
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 5025

              #7
              I'd reckon very significant amount of rebills are actually people who forgot to cancel. Maybe 25% or so, at least.

              Hell, I know how rebilling works and I still forget to cancel stuff. I've had NetZero charging my Paypal account $9.95 every month for a year for a dial-up service I needed for 2 weeks.

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              • xxxice
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 5042

                #8
                It looks like Franck has found new love in squishypimp

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                • Solid Bob
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1213

                  #9
                  A ton, I never cancel anything until I flip credit cards a year later. And Franck, you can't choose who posts in your public thread. Go start your own forum and invite yourself so nobody pisses you off.
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                  • bknoob
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 1610

                    #10
                    not sure about adult but my experience was about 10-15% in the mainstream area. I usually step up and cancel their subscription myself when I see this happening. Call me a fool but I always felt I was stealing money if I am aware of it and they are not.

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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PMdave
                      I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure

                      I'm sure you are totally wrong.

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                      • Pornwolf
                        Drunk and Unruly
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 22712

                        #12
                        It's much higher. I'd say around 80%
                        I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                        Webair, bitches.

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                        • Dirty F
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 59204

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pornwolf
                          It's much higher. I'd say around 80%

                          Is everybody joking or retarded?

                          95% of the programs out there don't even rebill 40%

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                          • Dirty F
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 59204

                            #14
                            Originally posted by vanderweb
                            It looks like Franck has found new love in squishypimp
                            That guy drives me nuts.

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                            • tranza
                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 57559

                              #15
                              I'd say it's around 5-15%, not that much.

                              And I think that's the main reason why we get very big chargebacks. The guy figures out he's been paying for a paysite for the last 6 months without really knowing and decide to chargeback.
                              I'm just a newbie.

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                              • PMdave
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 1517

                                #16
                                I was talking about members that converted from trial to full membership and from there on.

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                                • KrisKross
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 5025

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                  Is everybody joking or retarded?

                                  95% of the programs out there don't even rebill 40%
                                  Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?

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                                  • Dirty F
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 59204

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KrisKross
                                    Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?
                                    Still that's WAY too high.

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                                    • Dirty F
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 59204

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PMdave
                                      I was talking about members that converted from trial to full membership and from there on.
                                      Wtf are you talking about?

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                                      • Crypt
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2004
                                        • 2225

                                        #20
                                        Probably 50% of the 40% that rebill montly in average for a paysite just forgot to cancel their membership

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                                        • DarkJedi
                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 28301

                                          #21
                                          I'd say a lot.

                                          I'd say the majority of rebills comes from people who forget to cancel.

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                                          • Dirty F
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 59204

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                            I'd say a lot.

                                            I'd say the majority of rebills comes from people who forget to cancel.
                                            You forgot to bash me. What's wrong?

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                                            • PMdave
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 1517

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                              Wtf are you talking about?
                                              My 60% wans't for all joins combined. Example:
                                              100 members join.
                                              90 cancel before trial ends
                                              10 members left and from them atleast 6 forgot to cancel their membership at one pont or antother. Maybe not the first month, could aswell be very happy with the site and at one point think that its been enough and that they should cancel the membership.... and forget for another 2 months or so.

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                                              • Dirty F
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 59204

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PMdave
                                                My 60% wans't for all joins combined. Example:
                                                100 members join.
                                                90 cancel before trial ends
                                                10 members left and from them atleast 6 forgot to cancel their membership at one pont or antother. Maybe not the first month, could aswell be very happy with the site and at one point think that its been enough and that they should cancel the membership.... and forget for another 2 months or so.
                                                ok.

                                                .....

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                                                • xcitecash
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 801

                                                  #25
                                                  As a site owner i have no fucking idea and i dont care.....as long as my rebill % stays over 50% i'm happy

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                                                  • wizhard
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                    • 579

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Franck
                                                    I'd say a very small %

                                                    Anybody any guesses?
                                                    I'd say 5% or less.

                                                    That being said, a webmaster I know who used to run his own small solo girl paysite has one user who he got nearly 4 years worth of rebills out of without the guy ever revisiting the site after he joined up.
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                                                    • DarkJedi
                                                      No Refunds Issued.
                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 28301

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                      You forgot to bash me. What's wrong?
                                                      You didn't act stupid this time.

                                                      I couldn't come up with a sound reason to bash you.

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                                                      • Dirty F
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 59204

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                        You didn't act stupid this time.

                                                        I couldn't come up with a sound reason to bash you.

                                                        Fair enough.

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                                                        • Pornwolf
                                                          Drunk and Unruly
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 22712

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KrisKross
                                                          Maybe they mean 80% of the people who rebill are simply members who forgot to cancel?

                                                          Thanks for explaining the obvious to him.
                                                          I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                          Webair, bitches.

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                                                          • scottybuzz
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                                                            • May 2006
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                                                            #30
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                                                            • johnny o
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                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 825

                                                              #31
                                                              franck
                                                              why bother asking if you shoot everyone down who repsonds and call the a nOOb?
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                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 59204

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by johnny o
                                                                franck
                                                                why bother asking if you shoot everyone down who repsonds and call the a nOOb?

                                                                Fuck off noob.

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                                                                • germ
                                                                  ( o Y o )
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3108

                                                                  #33
                                                                  id say its somewhere around 262784%

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                                                                  • Holly
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 10017

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I've had a rebill going since February of '03. It's got to be someone who forgot. I think the number would be really high- especially for the first one to three months.



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                                                                    • Pornopat
                                                                      AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 10598

                                                                      #35
                                                                      What extra information would this number give?
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                                                                      • PMdave
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 1517

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Pornopat
                                                                        What extra information would this number give?
                                                                        Says alot about the billing model this industry relies on. Imagine that visa would change the rules tomorrow: every member has to confirm their membership monthly by clicking some button...

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                                                                        • DarkJedi
                                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 28301

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Holly
                                                                          Hey DJ. I didn't know you were back.

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                                                                          • madawgz
                                                                            8.8.8.8
                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                            • 30509

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Franck
                                                                            That guy drives me nuts.
                                                                            same here
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                                                                            • Pornwolf
                                                                              Drunk and Unruly
                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                              • 22712

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by PMdave
                                                                              Says alot about the billing model this industry relies on. Imagine that visa would change the rules tomorrow: every member has to confirm their membership monthly by clicking some button...
                                                                              That would never happen. It would knock out a significant amount of their mainsteam revenue. Cable bills, subscriptions etc.
                                                                              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                              Webair, bitches.

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                                                                              • ladida
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                • 2179

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Big percentage of the rebillers forgets, or doesn't know how, or is driven around in circles untill the company explains to them how to cancle. Good 60% i would say.
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                                                                                • bdld
                                                                                  $100,000
                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 11452

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  a lot, i dont know a % figure though. some of these end up turning into chargebacks.

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                                                                                  • Violetta
                                                                                    Affiliate
                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                    • 28735

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    It is a very good question. Too bad I cant ask my members, in case they actually DID forget. lol...
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                                                                                    • Hentaikid
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 1250

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Multimonth rebills seem to be easier to forget. Getting the monthly notification (For those billers that do send it) tends to remind them to cancel.

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                                                                                      • HighSociety
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                                        • 1786

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I have been watching for that and right now with last months rebills 5% did not login to the site for that month, The other 95 had at least one time, I don't have 1000's of members either and if i did it would take a lot of time to figure it out
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                                                                                        • johnny o
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 825

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                          Fuck off noob.
                                                                                          eat a dick toolio.
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                                                                                          • viva celebs
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2006
                                                                                            • 681

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            if you own a site why don't you ask members who are cancelling to fill out a simple form.

                                                                                            Just ask why they are cancelling their membership and what made them only stay a member for a month/stay for several months?

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                                                                                            • he-fox
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                              • 2884

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I have one dude I'm sure he has forgotten, lol. He rebills since 10 months by now. What a good citizen.

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                                                                                              • free4porn
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2005
                                                                                                • 4654

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by he-fox
                                                                                                I have one dude I'm sure he has forgotten, lol. He rebills since 10 months by now. What a good citizen.
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                                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 57021

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I would go with 10%

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                                                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                    • 42635

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by squishypimp
                                                                                                    i would say a good number, maybe around the 10-20% mark.
                                                                                                    Originally posted by PMdave
                                                                                                    I'm thinking 60% or something like that. Quite alot I'm sure
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                    It's much higher. I'd say around 80%
                                                                                                    Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                    I'd say it's around 5-15%, not that much.

                                                                                                    And I think that's the main reason why we get very big chargebacks. The guy figures out he's been paying for a paysite for the last 6 months without really knowing and decide to chargeback.
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Crypt
                                                                                                    Probably 50% of the 40% that rebill montly in average for a paysite just forgot to cancel their membership
                                                                                                    WTF kind of sites, and programs do you run?!?!!? Sheesh. I've never heard of, or have seen anything REMOTELY fucking close to any of these numbers in the better part of a DECADE in this business.

                                                                                                    If this comes from your experience in this busienss, my thoughts are to go find another line of work. To the surfers in this thread, keep hitting the pipe.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by wizhard
                                                                                                    I'd say 5% or less.
                                                                                                    Atleast THIS is in the ballpark.

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