No dumbass, unlike conservatards liberals tend not to treat politicians like our favorite football player. we're not part of a personality cult like you. Clinton did many things I didn't like, but the man was competent and I trusted him driving the ship of state. He wasn't about to do something catastrophically stupid like your conservatard administration does nearly every day.

stickyfingers, I support the second amendment. Does that make me a conservatard?

How does it feel to know that your gay-bashing, drug warring, porno hating political idols would love to see you locked up without even giving you a chance to defend yourself? To know that these people you defend think you're a living, walking piece of shit they'd rather see dead than have over for dinner?

You fucking conservatards, you never seem to amaze me.

Cuba has nukes eh?

personally, i think the most rational person is the one that can accept that every argument has two sides, that one has to be right and often, both can be right.

its really odd that so many can being consistently and categorically on one side, the same side every single time, often without even hearing or weighing the arguments in any way and then label others who don't see the complex world through their blinders as "sheep"

but then again, its the "black and white" part that provides a nice rationale for wars and terrorism and with TV technology today, cameras in missile nose cones etc, the coverage is actually really cool. so i am really on the fence as well :)

You better check the letter next to the names of many anti porn bills that have been penned. Here is a hint its a D.

Yeah, lets let a bunch of criminals and terrorists bed down here just because they managed to sneak in somehow. And they dont even have to pay taxes! Real fucking smart.

I dont care WHAT people do with thier own bodies. You stop at pot, you sissy. I am for legalizing all drugs - crack, meth, abolishing the FDA, FCC, USDA, etc. And if people wanna fuck for pay, I'm fine with that too. I'm also for legalizing suicide and abortion. Its your body, do whatever the fuck you want with it.

Yet you tell me all these things you are for, but you love Bushy, who dosent stand for a single one of them.

Who knows? I wouldnt exactly trust the Bush White House's team of intelligence experts to know.

do i need to say it again? i dont give a shit about any political party. i dont believe in people at all. i believe in the system.... liberal or conservative, democrat or republican.... and tragically, you are afraid of the system.

you are blinded by a world view that doesn't accept honest debate. why be so combative? why not just calmly defend your points?

you have said many times that Clinton is the greatest president ever and will be remembered as the greatest president in history. funny that you won't admit that the Patriot Act was the brainchild of your hero... and yet you blame the Patriot Act for "taking away your civil rights". i bet that one gives you headaches at night... quite the conundrum. :1orglaugh

Yes, i will agree on cuba and venezuala but should they lauch a missile (cuba does not have one) it would be shot down and then as a country they would be screwed. Columbia as a govt is on our side. Sure, there are rebels within the drug trade that want a shot at us and probably have the money to buy a nuke but why would they be so bold as to attack the country in which they prosper from the sale of theit drugs so much? The last thing a Columbian drug cartel wants is for America to hate it.

Yet you are ready to let people free that we have every reason to believe are directly tied to terrorism living here. You are a genius!! :1orglaugh

their navy consists of row boats but they're going to get a nuke in the air?
ok.:1orglaugh

There was once a day when Republicans stood for less government. Not anymore. Like I've said, Republicans don't even know what they are supporting. The President is more liberal with spending than any Democrat and has put more government into our daily lives than any administration.

Because the law says they have the right to a fucking trial and counsel you stupid jar of mongolian rat piss. I am not willing to change the laws that protect me from the government (or circumvent them, like hitler did) just to do what may be a little safer in one circumstance. Freedom has costs, and I am willing to pay them. If you arent, then go to china or some other shithole that shares your circular thinking.

If you had the ability or the inclination to read, you would know that Clinton's implementation of the Patriot Act was to be far different from what Bush has done. But you don't, because you're a conservatard with a self-image of being smarter than people who actually care about politics.

So where you planning on moving to again?

Btw came back to name calling eh? lol

No shit. He wastes money like we'll never run out and expands the govt. like he's trying to start a monarchy, but these brain dead conservazombies either love him for it and defend him to the death and the 'I am neither conservative nor liberal because I am too intelligent' types think they're too cool or too damn stupid to call a spade a spade.

I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Which means right now, I'm pretty much fucked. We have a conservative President who isn't conservative, but maintains his backwards outdated social stances.

I don't know why you have to be conservative or liberal? Can't you be a little of both?

I know. The GOP used to get alot of stuff right, and several years ago, they were the more reasonable of the two. The GOP has always wanted to enforce "family values" in one way or another which always has not set well with me. But Bush has bridged the gap and made the two parties almost one in the same. He spends and micromanaged like a liberal and wants to put the family values part into break-neck overdrive. It is not a good combination. Its almost like he took everything that was bad about the Democrats, everything that was bad about the GOP, rolled it into one and then shot it full of steroids.

you cant even have a discussion without hurting yourself trying to figure out how to break it down to "your a conservative idiot"
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

... and you think "I" think i'm smarter about politics? are you serious? At least I have the brains to realize that there are two sides to every argument, the wisdom to hear the other out and the maturity to admit i'm wrong or changed my mind.

honestly, you really have nothing to say. you say the same thing over and over in different ways "you're wrong, you're an idiot, "you're a god loving, bush worshipping, conservative and me... well, me... i'm just right about everything. if you don't agree.. i'll just call you sheep until you give up"

you can't be in his world. for whatever reason, he is fueled by anger. he has no trouble finding ways to rationalize and defend his anger but his world view demands that you are either for him or against him.

he is basically like stalin or hitler without any henchmen or balls to go the distance.

:disgust :disgust

Sheesh minusonebit - that sounds fucking terrible :winkwink: You really think folks "hate" you that much they have some desire for conflict?? Don't think that is true and sounds like a massive communication gulf more than anything.

Forgetting that Cuba has no relevant weapons, - fat chance of Castro being that insane. Cuba is Cuba and it will prob be that way after Fidel goes.

Neither Colombia or Venezuela have the slightest interest in the US and sure has hell they don't "really hate us" :winkwink: If you are basing the "hate" on Chavez verbal - that's him mouthing off in the fashion he always has done. He's also got pissed when Bush started messing in the internals of Venezuela - what leader would not?? But, Chavez sure ain't going to war with anyone - he may appear dumb, but he's smarter than he looks and knows there is no point. He is also not stupid enough to trust George and has made provision/alliances for the protection of Venezuela. (Who knows - but any shit from Chavez which is "incorrect" - there are others ready to straighten him up to reality - without conflict)

As for the people in these countries - they have no interest in conflict - what's the point? They sure don't hate anyone - more that they don't give a shit about the US in the same way they don't give a shit about Iceland.

Bottom line - unless any country messes in the affairs of another - who has any reason to start open conflict? Unfortunately the US has a track record of this activity in both Latin America and on some islands, and, in many ways, tho sounds strange, - the US govt is your own worst enemy (OK - excluding the Middle East problem).

Why do folks in the US think the world hates them??? :winkwink:

I dont know,why??Hehe

Hehe... I don't know either - just wondered if anyone did know :winkwink:

That was always a mystery :pimp