100 clowns who still can't explain what "rights" they have "lost"... but love the rhetoric because it provokes a strong emotional response to americans... to counter the absense of fact and logic of their arguments.



really? i thought the courts, senate and congress provided oversight. in fact, the courts seem to be succcesfully challenging a few key issues that people like you love to ramble on about. you should be happy to have them because otherwise you would be relegated back to rekindling the fire of class warfare, fighting for higher taxes and claiming everything is racist and unfair.

you suck as a poly sci major. in fact, you dont really seem to understand how the government works at all.

:2 cents:

Did you eat paint chips when you were little?

who gives a fuck if he was innocent or not? it's not germane, in this country you're innocent until you're proven guilty. Until it gets repealed, we enjoy the protection of the fourth amendment whether King George likes it or not. Why do you hate the Constitution? Why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate America?

A lot of people serve because they believe in the USA and all it stands for. A lot of people do it as a way to get ahead instead of college. They would rather serve in the military than work at Wendy's. You live in a FREE country. If you do not like it here you are FREE to leave.

Sorry schools dont qualify as public property. It has specific laws in place to protect children from wackos like you. You lied as usual.

I wonder how many tax dollars get spent on all that stuff

yep, that's right, and they ARE providing oversight. Hopefully the oversight will end with Bush getting impeached.

That doesn't change the fact that you're a gullible pro-Bush sheep with no sense of history or our legal system. You're too stupid to know when the president breaks the law when it's on the front page of every newspaper in the US, and too ignorant to realize how big a deal it is and how dangerous a tyrant at the head of a republic can be.

conservatard idiot.

Yep, I am cuckoo for wanting to show the kiddies what the government has done to them. How insane.

I dont give a good goddamn how many unconsitutional laws they pass saying public schools are private property, it just aint true.

Umm innocent till proven guilty correct. Yet even people who are innocent many times must stay in jail until their trial. Its called likely risk of flight. If they think someone may harm the public, they are kept locked up. Im pretty sure someone that was involved in a plan to make a dirty nuke is just maybe a risk to the public. Ya think? :uhoh

Oh, please dont give me a woody thinking about that. Mmm, Bush impeachment.

If you handed one of your commie flyers to my kids I can assure you Id break a few laws. :)

They have this little thing called bail for that. And also, they get access to a lawyer while they are in custody. Even a moron like you could see the difference, I'd hope.

Yeah, yeah. Empty threats and Republican double speak.

This from the guy that is moving out of the country haha. Funeh

"Ya think?"

durrrrr

"Ya think?"

duhhhh

if you had any clue of how stupid the shit you're saying is, you'd be blushing with embarassment right now.

And, why are you wasting time on here arguing with me if the cause is so noble. Please, claim your glory. The military is just DYING to recruit another sucker willing to die for his president.

Were it not that I care so much for human life I would wish that you liberals win the election in 2008 and have a liberal president in power and a liberal congress to go with it. Pull out of Iraq, bring the fight here at home and witness the loss of American life on a much vaster scale than anything abroad. Your party is doomed. You first failure will happen this fall when Lieberman wins as an Independent. You have no platform. You offer no solutions. All you can do is bash the majority in power. You should move to France you would fit in with their thinking very well.

Why do you think I am moving? Take one guess. You're so smart, I'm sure you already have it figured out. Because this country sucks. It stands for nothing but corruption and the rights of the ruling class and the right of some idiot like you to froth at the mouth without even knowing what you are frothing about.

Democrats are pretty bad, I'll give you that. But they dont compare right now to the GOP. Democrats run up huge bills, waste money and time and belive in crazy things like affirmative action and other nonsense. But the GOP has this time really outdone themselves, they have killed a few thousand people, run up more debt than than the Dems could ever hope to and have sunken the economy down to depression-levels. Both parties are doomed, in fact this whole fucking country is doomed, unless we make a swift and decisive change in the way we jerk ourselves off at the voting booths.

Dig... try to grasp this. i have explained it many times.. but i can see why its to your advantage to "forget". i dont like Bush. i don't put any faith at all in people. neither did the founders of this country. i believe in the system and believe that more often than not, it will function quite well. since it hasn't needed to be changed in 300 years, i think its done the job it was designed to do.

i don't consider myself consevative. i am not defending conservative values. definately not defending bush. its just that your arguments and views are so one sided, biased and completely out of touch with reality, that they are easy to make fun of.

given your narrow views of the world and your ever present bitterness which you attribute to your ghetto upbringing, i can also understand why you are incapable of accepting and respecting the views and opinions of others.

So you are saying bail is always granted huh?

how does all the exact bullshit the conservatards feed you taste when you regurgitate it word for word like this, you fucking idiot?

Like bullshit, I expect.

Right back atcha. lol

You still havent told me what right you have personally lost.

yeah ok, Neville Chamberlain. You're soooo fucking cool, the way you can see 'both sides'.

Dumbass.

how about you educate yourself instead of repeating questions that have already been answered on a porn board. You might be surprised how much yuo can find out with just a tiny bit of effort on your part.


http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ivil+liberties

The World has changed vastly in even just the last twenty years. As an American you have to be willing to see Iraq through. This may well look like another Vietnam to many people but if we pull out, essentially in that last 40 years, we have conceded (lost) two wars. This empowers our enemies and they will strike us at home. We have to finish Iraq and do it in a decisive way. I am not saying we should be ther 3, 4 or 5 years from now but we commited to the job and we have to finish it. Quiters never get anywhere.

so now people don't get arrested and held in jail without bond?

is your whole "bush took away our rights" argument really resting on a single case of a guy who was training with al queda to detonate a nuclear device in the US?

surely you must have 1000's of examples of this new police state that Bush created? i mean, everyone that doesn't see it your way is a complete idiot right? so, you could explain it. not with rhetoric... but with all the cases of innocent people being snatched off the street by men in black never to be seen again.

the irony of people in your position with your views.. is that you accuse Bush and the administration of creating a police state and babble on and on about how bad everything is and how its only getting worse and can't seem to see that you are no better. there is no difference between you using scare tactics and drama to paint a picture of your twisted, paranoid and horror filled view of reality than it is for the adminstration to raise the terror alert levels for their own means.

--- but thats always ok. its another trademark of liberalism, "the end, justifies the means"

Gonna start calling you slippy. What right have you personally lost. Dont give me a google link, dont tell me about some fuckin kook that was conspiraing with terrorists, dont tell me about phone taps. You've never had a phone tap done, and they dont really give a shit about you. Now then...

What right have YOU PERSONALLY lost?

Oh, I agree, we cant pull out now. Its just like sex... if you pull out before the mission is accomplished its not gonna be good. What I am saying is we never should have gone over there in the first place and we should have kept a much, much tighter leash on that son of a bitch than we did. Buts its too late now, the fucker is already loose. He is really jerking Iran off right now, its clear he is seeking a fight over there. Someone needs to kick his stupid ass in the head befoere he goes and starts ANOTHER war that we have to see though to the (very) bloody end.

Spoken like a true liberal. All for dissing a conservative point of view yet offering no alternative solution. Keep it up as this is your parties downfall.

So its consitutional if it dosent happen to you? Are you really that fucking stupid? Jesus fucking christ.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

how about you educate yourself instead of repeating questions that have already been answered on a porn board. You might be surprised how much yuo can find out with just a tiny bit of effort on your part.


http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ivil+liberties

In this thread I see calm people. And I see people calling others names.

I'll be damned. It turned out entertaining after all.

dumbass, this is all the answer you deserve if you think for one second that this isn't the stupidest question ever asked on this board. how the FUCK would you know if a phone tap has been done or not?

how about you educate yourself instead of repeating questions that have already been answered on a porn board. You might be surprised how much yuo can find out with just a tiny bit of effort on your part.


http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ivil+liberties

Yes but you hate the Jews so you cant even use that quote.

You need to read the thread again. Obviously you haven't been paying attention. Republicans use fear and terror. Democrats use truth.

Republicans were shat from the devil himself, thats why they're such a unique breed of human.

I just wanted to thank Reagan

All it takes is a vision and a great president! :thumbsup

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Ok I give up. You dont want to admit it, so you wont. Funny anyone Ive ever asked that question to never has an answer. Yet the patriot act is taking away everyones freedoms. lol.. weeeee

stupid, snarky comment to a serious quote that answers your dumbass 'question'. Fucking conservatards. You make me want to retch.

how about you educate yourself instead of repeating questions that have already been answered on a porn board. You might be surprised how much yuo can find out with just a tiny bit of effort on your part.


http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ivil+liberties

Yes, you are right. I dont like most jews because they are sneaky, greedy little bastards. Not all of them are bad. I do have one Jewish friend who dosent fit the profile.

I also dont like spics, porch monkeys, excessive taxes, illegal immigrants, republican bullshit, democrat spending, socialism, censorship and do-gooder busybodies.

So what the fuck is your point?

Perhaps we should not have gone over there and let the hate towards America build until we were attacked again. I do not believe Bin Laden was in colusion with Iraq but I do believe Iraq was a breeding ground for terrorists. As such, what we did was necessary to reduce the threat against us. Since 9/11 how many successful attacks have there been on US soil? I would ask you to bare that into consideration. Bush may be far from the best president we have had but he sticks to his convictions. He makes stupid statements and looks like a fool when he makes speaches but he is still OUR president. While I may tend to be republican I would also stand by any president if I believed he were doing the right thing regardless of party because he is the commander in chief!

No wasnt snarky. He freely admits he hates the Jews.

you are the one telling me i am stupid, idiot etc becuase you "get it" and i "dont get it" - when asked to defend your remarks, you simply post a link to google.

i guess thats your way of saying "uhm... gee, i don't have any good answers, so rather than risk making an argument i know i won't be able to defend, i'll try to sneak out of this by posting a link to a search engine and just hope they are dumb enough to believe that everything on the interweb is true"

:disgust

i am aware of the issues. i am aware of what the patriot act is. i am aware that you were also ok with the patriot act when it was clintons idea and it was called the anti terrorism bill or whatever it was.

the funny thing is that NOTHING has changed in your life. its all a percieved change and that perception is rooted in your own hate, bitterness and paranoia... everything you are saying is just your way of reconciling what you feel and an expression of your own inner battle with your own inner demons.

Reagan was a great president and deserves the thanks.

Haha this guy is on your team Dig..... lol

Me well lets see. Im not a racist at all. I support imigration, and giving amnesty to those that are productive residents of our country. I support legalizing prostitution, and weed. Im way more accepting of other people's ideas and beliefs than most demos. But since I support our President and the ideals of the republican party Im some wacko brownshirt lmao. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Doesn't that make you a name caller too?

You're either with. Or against. You're not with. So you're against.

We live in a world of black and white. Or so some say. I kind of like the yellows myself.

I worry about Cuba, Colombia and Venezula much more than Iraq. They are much closer to us and if you think Iraq hates us, they really hate us. Not only that, but they have had time to let the hate fester. Can you imagine what would happen if Cuba decided it wanted to take a shot at us? Of course some would say "We'd blow them to bits", but it isnt that easy. All they have to do is get one nuke in the air, and its a big fucking problem that has no soultions.