Strange stats - only like 2% of the join page hits covert to sales! - GoFuckYourself.com

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 11:10 AM

OK, I won't name the sponsor, because this thread is not supposed to be a sponsor bash. But, would you also say this is strange? I mean if a surfer even clicks through to the join page, he's probably really interested. Of course, some of them only want to checkout the prices, but 117 join page hits and only 2 of those 117 actually joined?

So, you'd say that's totally normal or even a quite decent conversion, or would you say there's probably something wrong? Thanks for your opinions!

Bossman · 08-31-2006, 11:26 AM

It depends on the tour/site...

- is it a one page tour?
- is the link to the join page a blind link?
- low cost trial or full price normal?

And of course also the traffic you send.

squishypimp · 08-31-2006, 11:32 AM

its all about site design.

by the way the image is a red x

media · 08-31-2006, 11:35 AM

This could be caused by the number of links to the join page that are blind and acting as links to a full video or trailer or something as simple as that.. but you'd have to rule it out for yourself really...

corvette · 08-31-2006, 11:35 AM

is there a form filter before the signup page? (ie a join form that asks for an email address)

Dirty Dane · 08-31-2006, 11:35 AM

what is the raw ratio? (1st page)

Scootermuze · 08-31-2006, 11:38 AM

Check their main page..

Some sponsors have a few video clip links that lead to clips, then the rest of the clip links lead to the join page..

Some say, "See the preview" that lead to the join page..

Some hosted galleries have the option to link directly to the join page..

Could be a number of reasons for the join page count..

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 11:44 AM

Damn, can't edit the post anymore. OK, as that damn free pix host banned my pic, here it is again on my own hosting now:

Dirty Dane · 08-31-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RussianRealitySites

Damn, can't edit the post anymore. OK, as that damn free pix host banned my pic, here it is again on my own hosting now:

That ratio and 65 bucks out of 563 1st page is not bad at all

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 11:52 AM

Ok, now I'll try to answer all the questions:

@Bossman:
- Nope, it's a 4 page tour with trailers
- That's a good point, some of the tour pix link to the join page!
- And the site has both, full price & low cost trial. It's PPS.

@media
Yeah, like I already mentioned above - the thumbs on the tour pages lead to the join page, which might be the answer already. Thanks for that hint!

@corvette
Well, kinda - a form page where you choose the membership type (full/trial), name, country, e-mail, and so on. So if you press the join button it takes you to the paycom form, where you only have to enter your cc details to actually join!

@Dirty Dane
See re-posted screenshot

@Scootermuze
See statements above

2HousePlague · 08-31-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

is there a form filter before the signup page? (ie a join form that asks for an email address)

Please elaborate.

2hp

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

That ratio and 65 bucks out of 563 1st page is not bad at all

Hehe, yeah - I know. THAT ratio is pretty good. But as the traffic comes from my "Russian Reality Sites" site and the paysite features russian models only, it should be pretty targeted

Dirty Dane · 08-31-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussianRealitySites

Hehe, yeah - I know. THAT ratio is pretty good. But as the traffic comes from my "Russian Reality Sites" site and the paysite features russian models only, it should be pretty targeted

Well, I dont have many, only few sponsors that convert over 10 cent per targeted click. However, 2 sales and 563 clicks is not enough data to conclude much.

corvette · 08-31-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

Please elaborate.

2hp

Scenario #1

You have a site where you can navigate to the signup form without entering any information such as name, address, email address, etc.

Scenario #2

You have a site where you can navigate to the signup form only after you enter information such as name, address, email address, etc into the join page form

In scenario #1, you are generally going to have a higher ratio of clicks to submissions. I.e. a spyder can hit the signup form in #1 but not #2?and you qualify the surfers to a certain degree

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Well, I dont have many, only few sponsors that convert over 10 cent per targeted click. However, 2 sales and 563 clicks is not enough data to conclude much.

Yeah I know. The problem about that is, that the quality of my traffic seems to be real good. But the best quality traffic is useless if the quantity is far too low

Dirty Dane · 08-31-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RussianRealitySites

Yeah I know. The problem about that is, that the quality of my traffic seems to be real good. But the best quality traffic is useless if the quantity is far too low

Usually quality fall when quantity rise, because many does not have the patient to let their sites grow. There are quality 10k sites making more money than 100k sites - in total - and I think many are stucked between, depended on skim and shitty traffic

You have a good ratio compared to most other promoters, but my advise for you is to optimize your portfolio by comparing your own sponsors - not with other promoters. And let your site grow slowly - find other quality sites to trade with. Then it will come and stay steady

OneWhoKnows · 08-31-2006, 12:46 PM

Yeah, thanks - I will. I opened a blog (a real one, not one of those free hosted auto feed one's) a month ago which is easier to promote, and that one does pretty well already. So this gives me the opportunity to go slow with the other site. Plus I'm learning everyday reading GFY and other boards.

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OneWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: European Union Posts: 873	Damn, can't edit the post anymore. OK, as that damn free pix host banned my pic, here it is again on my own hosting now:

08-31-2006, 11:52 AM	#10
OneWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: European Union Posts: 873	Ok, now I'll try to answer all the questions: @Bossman: - Nope, it's a 4 page tour with trailers - That's a good point, some of the tour pix link to the join page! - And the site has both, full price & low cost trial. It's PPS. @media Yeah, like I already mentioned above - the thumbs on the tour pages lead to the join page, which might be the answer already. Thanks for that hint! @corvette Well, kinda - a form page where you choose the membership type (full/trial), name, country, e-mail, and so on. So if you press the join button it takes you to the paycom form, where you only have to enter your cc details to actually join! @Dirty Dane See re-posted screenshot @Scootermuze See statements above

08-31-2006, 12:46 PM	#17
OneWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: European Union Posts: 873	Yeah, thanks - I will. I opened a blog (a real one, not one of those free hosted auto feed one's) a month ago which is easier to promote, and that one does pretty well already. So this gives me the opportunity to go slow with the other site. Plus I'm learning everyday reading GFY and other boards.