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Old 08-27-2006, 01:42 PM   #51
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Old 08-27-2006, 01:52 PM   #52
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I think Shoehorn is still in Michigan.

BTW, there ARE lakes in Hawaii. I grew up nearby Enchanted Lake (Kailua, HI).



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OMG, that's stunning!

I love Hawaii, but would always need a lake around.

Not into salt-water fishing at all.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:01 PM   #55
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:56 PM   #56
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He's saying that based on the contents of the wishlist, not the fact that she HAS a wishlist. Typically girls put lingerie, bras, panties, and sexy clothes in their wishlists so members can buy them and she will in turn pose in the items so the members get something out of it too, its an interaction thing. Having electronics and such on there makes it look as if somebody is pimping her out and she doesn't care about her members.
Damn sly, always logical. Yeah that is what i was implying.

If someone sends her a plasma tv or a new digi cam, more power to you. Surfers are not stupid, they will judge a girl by her wishlist, if you want to make her look like she's doing it on her own, you make her wishlist humble. If you want to make her look like a gold digger, you put plasmas and everything else.
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Old 08-27-2006, 04:04 PM   #57
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Old 08-27-2006, 04:46 PM   #58
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OMG, that's stunning!

I love Hawaii, but would always need a lake around.

Not into salt-water fishing at all.


My friends and I would climb the tall hills of Lanikai in the background where some leftover bunkers from WWII are. Quite an incredible view from up there...

Nice article about Lanikai hiking trail with several photos

Since you live in Hawaii, Shoehorn, you must know many places off the tourist path. Have to check you out next time I am in the islands...

Have you ever hiked Diamond Head? Pretty fun hike too. I was a Boy Scout when I lived in Hawaii, so I pretty much hiked the whole island of Oahu - big fun is hiking Mt Tantalus (an extinct volcano) and mudsliding down the side - wheeee...

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Old 08-27-2006, 05:14 PM   #60
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:26 PM   #61
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:39 PM   #62
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Old 08-27-2006, 06:53 PM   #64
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Have you ever hiked Diamond Head? Pretty fun hike too. I was a Boy Scout when I lived in Hawaii, so I pretty much hiked the whole island of Oahu - big fun is hiking Mt Tantalus (an extinct volcano) and mudsliding down the side - wheeee...

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Me and my girlfriend at the time hiked Diamond Head 3 or 4 years ago, it was a pretty nice hike for sure. Thats really the only hiking I've done.
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Old 08-27-2006, 06:55 PM   #66
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Shoehorn I am calling first dibs on her first b/g scene... just FYI.
She said she'll do a b/g scene with your for $5,000 "euros" cash.
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:35 PM   #67
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:40 PM   #68
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Me and my girlfriend at the time hiked Diamond Head 3 or 4 years ago, it was a pretty nice hike for sure. Thats really the only hiking I've done.
I heard they started doing concerts inside Diamond Head again. Back in the early 70's I remember going to a New Year's show there called the "Crater Festival".

I was able to get in because my older sister knew people at a free hippie paper called "Sunbums" (I think I still have old copies of Sunbums stuffed away in a box in the garage). All I remember was that Santana played an awesome show, and my parents were super pissed at my sister and I for being gone overnight (I wasn't even old enough to drive, and everybody was too wasted to drive back to Kailua).

Flashbacks...

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I heard they started doing concerts inside Diamond Head again. Back in the early 70's I remember going to a New Year's show there called the "Crater Festival".

I was able to get in because my older sister knew people at a free hippie paper called "Sunbums" (I think I still have old copies of Sunbums stuffed away in a box in the garage). All I remember was that Santana played an awesome show, and my parents were super pissed at my sister and I for being gone overnight (I wasn't even old enough to drive, and everybody was too wasted to drive back to Kailua).

Flashbacks...

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Old 08-27-2006, 07:46 PM   #70
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:13 PM   #71
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I love shows at the Waikiki Shell.
Kapiolani park...

Saw a lot of shows at the Shell back in the day, although the biggest shows back then were at the HIC.

So...um, post another picture of Bailey flashing already.

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Judging by this girls wishlist, looks like you guys are in this for the short term

http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/re...Y05IDFZ6FB ZO
That looks like the wishlist of a guy, not a girl...
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:29 PM   #74
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NATs... 1 site.. a solo girl.... good luck with that.. I know I won't be signing up...
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:33 PM   #75
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Kapiolani park...

Saw a lot of shows at the Shell back in the day, although the biggest shows back then were at the HIC.

So...um, post another picture of Bailey flashing already.

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Old 08-27-2006, 08:33 PM   #76
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:33 PM   #77
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NATs... 1 site.. a solo girl.... good luck with that.. I know I won't be signing up...
That doesn't make any sense.
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That doesn't make any sense.
That's probably why you have $100 min check payout..

a. NATs - means checks have to be cut by you.. unlike a small ccbill program, all the money sits there making you interest or being re-invested for your benifit and affiliates can't get it out until they reach an unreasonable $100. With ccbill, the WM can combine all their small programs into 1 account and they get paid out on $25 mininum.

b. 1 site... only having 1 site makes reaching $100 extremely difficult for the vast majority of WMs.

c. a solo girl.. they flake out.. they're a dime a dozen these days and programs/sites dissappear after a year or whatever...

All that adds up to a high probabillty that any money earned by the majority of WMs will never be seen by them.
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"Saw this hot guy with a camera today, I wonder if he's single?"
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This has got to be my favorite one ever so far.

Remind me when I pray tonight to add, "God Bless Bailey's pubes"...

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That's probably why you have $100 min check payout..

a. NATs - means checks have to be cut by you.. unlike a small ccbill program, all the money sits there making you interest or being re-invested for your benifit and affiliates can't get it out until they reach an unreasonable $100. With ccbill, the WM can combine all their small programs into 1 account and they get paid out on $25 mininum.

b. 1 site... only having 1 site makes reaching $100 extremely difficult for the vast majority of WMs.

c. a solo girl.. they flake out.. they're a dime a dozen these days and programs/sites dissappear after a year or whatever...

All that adds up to a high probabillty that any money earned by the majority of WMs will never be seen by them.
You clearly don't know much. Let me educate you on these points one by one.

A. My checks get cashed into a business checking account, those don't draw interest. I don't know of any programs that deposit their business checks into their IRA, if they do, then the IRS is going to be on their ass. And last time I checked $100 isn't unreasonable, I know a lot of affiliates that make that in no time. If they don't make that in a period, it gets rolled over.

B. Sites that convert well make money fast. If someone promoting my site says to me "Hey, I've only made a few sales on my traffic, and I think it would do better with another program" I would send them a check and tell them thanks for giving mine a try. This is a business, if someone isn't making money with me I don't blame them for making money with someone else. I am a pretty easy going guy, I am easy to get along with and I am more than willing to work with my affiliates to make them happy.

C. You may be right, but I have more sites in the works and plan on growing my program. Eventually I plan on having a site that will work on everyones traffic, because that is the name of the game. Not to mention I have hundreds of sets already shot for Bailey, which if you do the math is enough to keep the site running for at least a year and a half if she flaked out.

As for your last point, if you're implying that I am going to cheat my webmasters for a few bucks then you really are ignorant as fuck, and that remark really pisses me off. I have never cheated anyone before in my life and don't plan on starting now, espescially in this industry where most everyone knows who I am and where to find me.
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Bailey banners in your sig? How much is that i wonder?
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Bailey banners would look great in your sig.
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A. My checks get cashed into a business checking account, those don't draw interest. I don't know of any programs that deposit their business checks into their IRA, if they do, then the IRS is going to be on their ass. And last time I checked $100 isn't unreasonable, I know a lot of affiliates that make that in no time. If they don't make that in a period, it gets rolled over.
Ah, I forgot to mention, a lot of affiliates are still promoting Bailey through the old CCBill links. In fact probably a half a dozen or so have said that they would rather not use NATS and are still using the CCBill links. So if you are worried about not getting your money or waiting for a $100 payout, theres an alternative solution for you.
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i also like my sig. It would offend your Bailey to stand close to my sig
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We did a shoot the other day out on my lake, we thought since it was a weekday it wouldn't be a big deal, but next thing we know a boat full of fisherman is circling around us. The look on her face was hilarious.

This is the newest set in the members area and so far there have been quite a few emails about it, the members love the realism factor of the whole thing.

I am now paying 10% on webmaster referrals, so get some Bailey banners in your sig. I am having a bonus day soon too, so get signed up and get some traffic coming in so you're prepared.






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You clearly don't know much. Let me educate you on these points one by one.
You must be right given none of the NATs programs I promote... approx 15... have mininmums above $50... The majority of programs are $50, $25 or $0 and the ones that do happen to go up to $100 have more than half a dozen sites (or even 20+ sites) one can promote...
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A. My checks get cashed into a business checking account, those don't draw interest. I don't know of any programs that deposit their business checks into their IRA, if they do, then the IRS is going to be on their ass. And last time I checked $100 isn't unreasonable, I know a lot of affiliates that make that in no time. If they don't make that in a period, it gets rolled over.
Interesting.. Except that most businesses try and leverage their money by earning interest via xfrs into interest earning accounts or other things.. In addition to that, You'll be spending that money on more content etc., thus using affiliate money to invest in your busines...
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As for your last point, if you're implying that I am going to cheat my webmasters for a few bucks then you really are ignorant as fuck, and that remark really pisses me off. I have never cheated anyone before in my life and don't plan on starting now, espescially in this industry where most everyone knows who I am and where to find me.
I'm not implying anything, I'm stating a reality of this business. My entire point of saying anything at all was to let you know that $100 is going to turn a lot of affiliates off and thus make your business less successful... I really don't understand why anyone would put arbitrary speed bumps in the way of their own success, especially with a fledgling program trying to get itself going.

But I know nothing and as I said before.. Good luck with that..
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You must be right given none of the NATs programs I promote... approx 15... have mininmums above $50... The majority of programs are $50, $25 or $0 and the ones that do happen to go up to $100 have more than half a dozen sites (or even 20+ sites) one can promote...

Interesting.. Except that most businesses try and leverage their money by earning interest via xfrs into interest earning accounts or other things.. In addition to that, You'll be spending that money on more content etc., thus using affiliate money to invest in your busines...

I'm not implying anything, I'm stating a reality of this business. My entire point of saying anything at all was to let you know that $100 is going to turn a lot of affiliates off and thus make your business less successful... I really don't understand why anyone would put arbitrary speed bumps in the way of their own success, especially with a fledgling program trying to get itself going.

But I know nothing and as I said before.. Good luck with that..
Even though I am pretty sure you are only in here to try and stir shit, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and reply to you for a third time. If making the $100 minimum payout is that much trouble for you the CCBill links will always work. If anyone wants to promote Bailey through the CCBill links they are more than welcome to tell me and I can get them the signup link for that, its been that way since before I was running NATS.

I welcome constructive critism and suggestions, I don't have an ego and I am not here to try and prove anything, I think everyone who knows me and reads my posts can back me up on that. However I don't have time for people who come into threads all day long posting negative remarks and trying to start shit.
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