Is "WHORE" an acceptable term to use for "talent"? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

free4porn · 08-23-2006, 01:30 AM

i'm a man whore and love it!

Halcyon · 08-23-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by phatbiatch

We hired this dirty whore to shoot a scene for us the other day.

Or... we hired this model the other day. What a dirty whore she is in front of the camera.

Exactly.

SomeCreep · 08-23-2006, 01:46 AM

There's some whores in this house, there's some whores in this house...

DWB · 08-23-2006, 02:40 AM

Hardcore models who have sex with strangers for money = yes
Softcore models = no

I'm calling it as it is.

A girl who lets someone like... say... Duke, throat gag her until she pukes is a whore. She may be a cool chick. A responsible girl. She may even be someone's wife or girlfriend, but she is still a whore.

Any girl who sucks cum out of another girls ass... is a whore.

Any girl who who will let multiple men blow loads inside her vagina... is a whore.

Any girl who claims on video that she is a whore... is a whore.

If a girl is a prostitute / escort in real life... whore.

Any girl that allows a man to write something on her forhead, eats cum from a spoon, gets gangbanged, walks around with cum on her face, is filmed accepting money, plays like she is picked off the street... ALL WHORES.

But I do not use the term "whore" to look down upon them. I use the term "whore" the same as I do the term "banker" or "doctor."

Girls who shoot for say Steve Lightspeed, Dean Capture, Playboy, Earl Miller, Donny, and so on. NOT WHORES. Though they may be whores in their personal lives, they do not appear to me as a whore while they work.

NOW...

If they chick hates doing what she is doing, trys to escape the pop shot or you can tell she does not want to be there. WHORE. A bad whore. This means she sold herself out for money. That indeed is the true meaning of a whore, and not much respect comes along with that. She has to look herself in the mirror every day after what she has done. She will live with it, she knows she is a whore.

BUT...

All of this is based off of MY definition of a whore. It only becomes bad based on how it is used.

If I'm filming and I tell the girl, "suck it you filthy rice eating whore!", I do not mean anything by that.

If I'm walking down the street and some woman bumps into me, knocks my bag out of my hand and does not even stop to tell me sorry... I turn to her and say, "watch where you're going you stupid fucking whore!", then that is used in a hateful manner. That version of WHORE is a bad one, and is NOT the same WHORE that is used to when speaking to talent.

DWB · 08-23-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Before I would even consider getting involved in a conversation like this, I would have to ask you this question:

What is your definition of "a whore". In other words, what does the word "whore" mean to you?

The best post in this thread.

Wiggles · 08-23-2006, 02:56 AM

funny you ask this, i made a blog post last night and referred to the girl as a 'whore' but once i typed it and stopped and debated whether i should use that term or not, would it deter the surfer from wanting to go further.

Scott McD · 08-23-2006, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Any girl that allows a man to write something on her forhead, eats cum from a spoon, gets gangbanged, walks around with cum on her face, is filmed accepting money, plays like she is picked off the street... ALL WHORES.

And i don't think they can have any arguments about that...

Scott McD · 08-23-2006, 04:07 AM

Damn, thats the first 50-50% poll i think i've seen on here... ;-)

Kiwigirl · 08-23-2006, 04:47 AM

Tough question. If you fuck for cash then I'd say yes but if you
just posing nude I'd say no. Who the hell knows......all in all I love
all talent/models the same, what they do for money is there biz.

PimpDaddyPants · 08-23-2006, 04:51 AM

I think a majority of the votes here might be from surfers LOL j/k damn its almost 50/50 on the votes wow

Manowar · 08-23-2006, 04:55 AM

if she likes it yeah

Expo_Vids · 08-23-2006, 04:57 AM

If you are shooting porn the term "whore" is never a problem. Girls will refer to themselves as whores all the time. If you have not heard this then you have not spent much time around porn stars.

pussyluver · 08-23-2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Expo_Vids

If you are shooting porn the term "whore" is never a problem. Girls will refer to themselves as whores all the time. If you have not heard this then you have not spent much time around porn stars.

Girl - girl: Some call each other HOs instead of whores and not meant in a derogatory fashion. Casual man they might know - girl: Doesn't play.

Do you think of tASSy as a whore? Would many call her that, esp to her face? Would Vanillia and say Punker just talking call each other Hos sound derogatory? Maybe? Would you think anything of it? Now say anyone else,any well know industry man call either one a whore, it would be in poor tatste.

pussyluver · 08-23-2006, 05:14 AM

Dirty luv talk in the bedroom doesn't count.

CDSmith · 08-23-2006, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I agree that "whore" is an acceptable word to use in sales text, toyurs, etc. I'm more curious about business discussions within the industry.

Discussions within the industry... I've never seen a reason to label and degrade anyone like that. Yes, in ad copy, text link lingo, banner ad lingo, it is common and widely used and accepted.

Any chick can be labelled a whore or slut, but without these willing babes we'd all be doing real work, probably manual labor in most cases.

RevSand · 08-23-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I don't use the term "whore" or any other pejorative terms on any of my tours or on any of my sites. I have more respect for the performers I work with and depend upon, for my members, and for myself to do that.

This is because I feel that if I am doing so just to make money, then in fact I could be encouraging such attitudes in others, and therefore I am putting money above people and promoting negative attitudes and behavior, which is something I try not to do.

Many people in the adult industry apparently stake their livelihood on promoting misogyny and degrading people, that is not how I choose to conduct my business.

I love sex and I enjoy erotic roleplaying, but when this becomes obscured (particularly when it is deliberately done in the context of mistreating another person), that is where I draw a line.

I don't mind joking around, and such - that's all in good fun, but packaging entertainment that consciously caters to the worst in human attitudes and behavior is not how I want to make my living.

ADG Webmaster

I agree..

Expo_Vids · 08-23-2006, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver

Girl - girl: Some call each other HOs instead of whores and not meant in a derogatory fashion. Casual man they might know - girl: Doesn't play.

Do you think of tASSy as a whore? Would many call her that, esp to her face? Would Vanillia and say Punker just talking call each other Hos sound derogatory? Maybe? Would you think anything of it? Now say anyone else,any well know industry man call either one a whore, it would be in poor tatste.

Actually I never use the word toward women. I just think is sounds stupid. My point is that the LA porn girls don't seem to have a problem with it.

BlackCrayon · 08-23-2006, 05:52 AM

in terms of business, talking to the girls, talking about the girls to other members of the industry i'd say it shouldn't be acceptable but it is. maybe not so much the first but definitely the latter. a lot of stuff in this biz happens that isn't really 'acceptable'. anyways, some girls get off on being degraded, called whores, etc in their personal life. degredation isn't always a male fantasy.

Seska · 08-23-2006, 06:02 AM

The word whore currently has a great deal of stigma attached to it. The majority of the world's population does not see it as a neutral word much less a positive word (or profession). Even as slang it has derogatory elements to it.

Earlier in my work I felt that words like whore and slut could be reclaimed by porn performers and other sex workers, but I have since moved away from that thinking. Misogyny is still a big part of so many cultures as well as pornography. I try to challenge it in different ways now. When I use certain words I do my best to make sure the context is one of sex positivity.

I also think having negative attitudes towards performers and models says more about the person in question than the performers and models themselves. If you hire a performer to do something involving degradation why judge her/him over their motivations? If they do it for sexual fufillment, to satisfy their emotional needs, or to pay the bills (or any combination there of), what do you care?

I often wonder why people get into the adult biz. For some I think it is because it reinforces their misogyny. Yet for others it is because it reinforces their respect and appreciation of women. Many say it is for the money or because they like being an outsider - I can appreciate that too. But how they carry themselves as they do their work speaks volumes.

/end my first controversial post at GFY :-)

Buzz · 08-23-2006, 06:21 AM

Well, if the talent is a whore - why not?

modF · 08-23-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Depends if you are an asshole who has no respect for the talent or not.

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I agree that "whore" is an acceptable word to use in sales text, toyurs, etc. I'm more curious about business discussions within the industry.

I think that these two statements are 100% accurate.

I prefer to think of them as suppliers of a product that will later be sold, in a stable business relationship you don't generally call your supplier a whore. Now that doesn't mean that her personal life doesn't qualify for the term, but who am I do say it to her.

Holly · 08-23-2006, 06:40 AM

Sometimes I like to be called a whore.

Halcyon · 08-23-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Seska

The word whore currently has a great deal of stigma attached to it. The majority of the world's population does not see it as a neutral word much less a positive word (or profession). Even as slang it has derogatory elements to it.

Earlier in my work I felt that words like whore and slut could be reclaimed by porn performers and other sex workers, but I have since moved away from that thinking. Misogyny is still a big part of so many cultures as well as pornography. I try to challenge it in different ways now. When I use certain words I do my best to make sure the context is one of sex positivity.

I also think having negative attitudes towards performers and models says more about the person in question than the performers and models themselves. If you hire a performer to do something involving degradation why judge her/him over their motivations? If they do it for sexual fufillment, to satisfy their emotional needs, or to pay the bills (or any combination there of), what do you care?

I often wonder why people get into the adult biz. For some I think it is because it reinforces their misogyny. Yet for others it is because it reinforces their respect and appreciation of women. Many say it is for the money or because they like being an outsider - I can appreciate that too. But how they carry themselves as they do their work speaks volumes.

/end my first controversial post at GFY :-)

Well said. Excellent perspective.

p1mpdogg · 08-23-2006, 08:34 AM

whores get paid to fuck.

therefor the answer is yes.

all talent is scum.

MeganS · 08-23-2006, 09:16 AM

We have gone 10 years in this biz without using the word whore ... and pride ourselves on that.

Personally i would never call someone a whore that whithout them, i don't have a paycheck

xoxo,
Megan

Babagirls · 08-23-2006, 09:20 AM

no its not.
first off, we are all here cuz we choose this industry for our income. this is our job. you are supposed to have respect for the talent, other webmasters, companys you do biz with, etc. If you can't grow up and be mature about this industry, then you're still just a kid who thinks "hehe porn..COOL! hehe" Almost like Beavis and Butthead would say. Grow up.

Grapesoda · 08-23-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

In another thread, it has been argued that, in our business, referring to talent as "whores" is not derogatory.

Is "whore" acceptable terminology?

Yes? No?

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not to me however is 'talent' acceptable? what's the talent in the job? I prefer model

Madame0120 · 08-23-2006, 09:58 AM

This is a true male whore! I'm just a Pimp.

So..
If I make some guy cum, while talking on the phone for $2.99 a minute, am I a whore? I like to think of it as Advice With A Happy Ending!

Halcyon · 08-23-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

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not to me however is 'talent' acceptable? what's the talent in the job? I prefer model

"Performer" is my favorite of the bunch, I think. At least for Video. For photo, I agree, "model" is best.

Unless you are talking about Cytherea, for her "talent" is appropriate.

Mr. Romance · 08-23-2006, 10:08 AM

Talent is one of the back bones of our industry. They provide a service and are paid accordingly. We need them. My vote is no.

Mr. Romance

Babagirls · 08-23-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Madame0120

This is a true male whore! I'm just a Pimp.

So..
If I make some guy cum, while talking on the phone for $2.99 a minute, am I a whore? I like to think of it as Advice With A Happy Ending!

i've always wanted to try that whole phone sex thing. i made killer money when i was a camgirl years ago, does phone sex operators make bank?

tony286 · 08-23-2006, 10:20 AM

Its a rotten term to use, funny you bring this up .There was someone bragging about shooting his 1000 th scene and first called them whores then went err talent. I thought it was very sad and unprofessional.
i see someone who sees sex as a dirty thing using the word whore. I have the greatest respect for talent and treat them that way.
On the other hand what do you expect when pimp is the favorite term for someone who is successful in this business. Which is beyond stupid to me, especially when 95 percent of us are white.

Madame0120 · 08-23-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

i've always wanted to try that whole phone sex thing. i made killer money when i was a camgirl years ago, does phone sex operators make bank?

It is like porn these days, tighter competition - and now, on the platform I work from, there is addtion of speakers who also offer sex cam shows w/phone. However, there's not much change in the catty-greedy-bitch flavor of the PSO biz. It was a real shock, after working in adult for 2+ years, where the forums are actually helpful - to be plopped into Paranoia Central.

I do well enough, for a ole gal, who never shows more than a smile and a lil leg. My market is narrow, but I have gained a large client base to sell to, with ease.

206-856-063 Always happy to show you around my lil haven for polite gents & sluts.

BAKO · 08-23-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd316

too much arguing about whores in this thread.

we're all fucking whores in some shape/fashion

best answer so far

GlydeGirl · 08-23-2006, 11:02 AM

Wow... what a bunch of sex-negative people posting in this thread! There's nothing wrong with people having wild adventurous sex with other consenting adults, and for my fellow industry peeps to look down upon the talent that shoots the sex scenes WE plan out for them (softcore, hardcore, extreme, whatever) is such a blatant indicator of the negative attitudes towards sexuality that run rampant in this industry. It's time for us to truly get over the bullshit Christian morality that labels sexually active adults as being "less than" people who don't exercise their sexuality.

People fucking and having fun being naked together is perfectly normal and okay. People doing it for the camera is also perfectly normal and okay. There's no need to look down upon people who have extreme sex the same way there's no need to look down upon people who have only vanilla sex, or no sex at all. As adults, it each of our perogatives to get our sexual needs met responsibly, whatever they happen to be.

So to use connotatively negative terms such as "whore" to refer to talent performing in very hardcore scenes, it shows that the person using the term has a big issue with others having wilder sex than they do. And because every person has their own sexual fingerprint, it's total bullshit to judge other people's sexual proclivities in comparison to our own.

However, as a sexually adventurous woman, for me to fondly refer to one of my gal pals as a "total whore" while I smile as she recounts her most recent adventures is not derogatory because I respect her right to her sex life. However, if some buttoned-up Christian zealot referred to my friend as a "total whore" with a sneer on their face, it would be highly inappropriate. Context is everything.

Kassidy · 08-23-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

I think that is an important distinction.

In my opinion "Whores" are the fantasy we sell a surfer.
It has a derogatory tone. And degradation is very often a part of fantasy.

But to use it with people you work with/do business with is clearly disrepectful.
If you don't mean to disrespect, then don't use the term.
If you *do* mean to disrepect, then you are an asshole.

Well said.

avolongold · 08-23-2006, 11:19 AM

i think people getting confused between real life and fantasy. I don't think women appreciate being called whores on a personal basis as much as they do in movies which make them their incomes.

It's like comparing an actor playing a part to his real life. Two different levels there and i don't think they like being compared to their film roles.

I met the guy who used to play Carlton on "Fresh Prince" last year at a night club. I called him Carlton which he didn't seem to like. He responded with an "it's Alfonso thankyou"

spacedog · 08-23-2006, 11:21 AM

I didn't read any of the responses, so I have no idea what anyone's presenting as their argument, however, here is my own.

Whore, Slut, Bitch, etc, etc all are & very well should be acceptable terminology for what you call "talent"..

You're not filming no fucking movie actress or anything even remotely requiring "talent". Any fucking whore, slut, etc can fuck & suck cock on camera.. any bimbo on the street will do.. no talent is needed..

Now, on another note.. do you really think anyone is going to use descriptions such as "talent sucking cock" on their sites?

p1mpdogg · 08-23-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by avolongold

i think people getting confused between real life and fantasy. I don't think women appreciate being called whores on a personal basis as much as they do in movies which make them their incomes.

It's like comparing an actor playing a part to his real life. Two different levels there and i don't think they like being compared to their film roles.

I met the guy who used to play Carlton on "Fresh Prince" last year at a night club. I called him Carlton which he didn't seem to like. He responded with an "it's Alfonso thankyou"

how on earth can you call taking 3 cum loads to the face a profession?

or deep anal and vaginal penetration a profession and get respect for it?

you fucking idiots amaze me.

tASSy · 08-23-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Well, in my opinion the male talent are "male-whores" and the women could be called "whores" since there is no such word as "female-whore", I guess people made the word "whore" to automatically describe a female, but its 2006 now, men can be whores too.

Whore is not derogatory, it just means "someone that has sex for money". A performer is someone who has sex for money. I even call my close friends "whore" , like "what are you doing whore", it's like a friendly thing. Like saying "what's up bitch".

I don't find it derogatory. I call men whores too.

Everyone can be a whore.

People who would find it derogatory are too sensitive. I'm not content and I wouldn't be offended if someone called me whore. It would not be accurate though because I don't have sex for money. Actually I barely have sex at all.

I don't see what's so offensive about it.

this comment is where i feel there's a fine line. similar to how i'm what most people would consider a white girl, but i live and grew up in the blackest part of east side oakland - and here it's okay for my black friends and neighbors to says "wassup niggah" and i can even say it back, but i wouldn't dare go to a heavily black neighborhood in a different state i'd never been to and go around calling the black people n*ggers. fuck, i can't even type it out HERE and this is GFY!

i think within a circle of friends who you know and who know you you have a level of comfort and you know what can be said without being taken offensively. but you can't deny the fact that there are a LOT of people who take the 'n' word seriously, derogatorily, and wouldn't like being referred to that way.

using derogatory slang terminology, even when in jest, is still derogatory. i feel like there are certain connotations to the term "whore" that imply things like -

shame
filth
compromised morals
stupidity

when, in current times, having sex for money is happening more and more and becoming more mainstream and publically discussed and viewed. people having sex for money in adult are being AIM tested all the time, often not ashamed of what they're doing, don't think they're compromising themselves in any way by doing so, and are intelligent.

i'm not saying everyone, i'm just saying using the term "whore" to refer to every woman who has performed on camera or is willing to within the industry is still offensive to me, as a woman, and a model.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 08-23-2006, 11:26 AM

I say it is very rude :-(

avolongold · 08-23-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

how on earth can you call taking 3 cum loads to the face a profession?

or deep anal and vaginal penetration a profession and get respect for it?

you fucking idiots amaze me.

work is work, whether you think of it as a profession or not, many people may beg to differ with you - and nobody never mentioned anything about respect.

A lot of people do jobs that may not seem very respectful. They don't like associating what they do for a living for who they are.

Halcyon · 08-23-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

I didn't read any of the responses, so I have no idea what anyone's presenting as their argument, however, here is my own.

Whore, Slut, Bitch, etc, etc all are & very well should be acceptable terminology for what you call "talent"..

You're not filming no fucking movie actress or anything even remotely requiring "talent". Any fucking whore, slut, etc can fuck & suck cock on camera.. any bimbo on the street will do.. no talent is needed..

Now, on another note.. do you really think anyone is going to use descriptions such as "talent sucking cock" on their sites?

You missed the point of the question. (although from your tone, I doubt your answer would change.)

I'm asking about the term when used within the business, not to surfers.

spacedog · 08-23-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

You missed the point of the question. (although from your tone, I doubt your answer would change.)

I'm asking about the term when used within the business, not to surfers.

well, ok then.. within the business I think it is rude, i would certainly not call up a content provider & say "I need a whore to do some exclusive".. that would be unacceptable & unprofessional as well as unbusiness like.. I call them "models", even though in the mainstream sense of the word is much differently viewed.

stonegatherer · 08-23-2006, 11:42 AM

Less that $50 or willing to do it in an alley, she's a whore.
$100-200, prostitute.
$200+, escort.

Carol@Pixipay · 08-23-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

I didn't read any of the responses, so I have no idea what anyone's presenting as their argument, however, here is my own.

Whore, Slut, Bitch, etc, etc all are & very well should be acceptable terminology for what you call "talent"..

You're not filming no fucking movie actress or anything even remotely requiring "talent". Any fucking whore, slut, etc can fuck & suck cock on camera.. any bimbo on the street will do.. no talent is needed..

Now, on another note.. do you really think anyone is going to use descriptions such as "talent sucking cock" on their sites?

I don't think that "anyone" can fuck on camera. Whereas it may not require acting classes at Juilliard it does require a level of "talent". I'd even go out on a limb and guess that most of us here haven't and couldn't "fuck on camera" as you so eloquently put it.

Whore has negative connotations to it, unless that changes it is wholly inappropriate to use the term in a business setting.

In ad copy, sure if that's what you're selling. In addressing someone and or a situation that is business related, no.

The biggest problem this industry has is it's complete immaturity on subjects like this. Yes Sir we sell sex, does that make it "right" or "acceptable" to act like 12yr olds on a plaground discovering their first Playboy? No

lulu36 · 08-23-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Do you mean within the industry? Or to surfers?

I agree that "whore" is an acceptable word to use in sales text, toyurs, etc. I'm more curious about business discussions within the industry.

i'm with you on the use of "whore" for marketing, sales, etc...
i say no to using it in business discussions. they should be adressed and referred to by their first name, like everyone else in the biz or any other biz for that matter. respect goes both ways.

MissBritt · 08-23-2006, 12:01 PM

I believe that it is only appropriate to speak to a man or woman and use that word if it is done in jest. To actually call somebody a whore and really mean it you better be ready for a fight as it is definitely derogatory. However with in this industry I think being called a dirty little whore can be a complement so it all depends on how it is said.

When I'm working with talent I try to gauge their sensitivity on different words that I say when we are doing sex scenes. If I feel that somebody is uncomfortable with what I'm saying then I do not say it. However, thankfully most people in this business like to be called whores while they are fucked.

So simply put I think it's appropriate depending on how somebody says it.

If they say it as a rude remark being derogatory then I don't think it's appropriate however if they say it in a smiling complementary way than I think it is absolutely appropriate :-)

tranza · 08-23-2006, 12:06 PM

I really think it depends on the girl and the content you're producing with her.

Webby · 08-23-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SWorldMegan

We have gone 10 years in this biz without using the word whore ... and pride ourselves on that.

Personally i would never call someone a whore that whithout them, i don't have a paycheck

xoxo,
Megan

Was thinking exactly the same on the 10 years - and before that

Never heard of any models/talent being described as "whores" by anyone in the adult biz.

Why now? Sounds like a new little boy term to make them feel superior while pimping? Gaining "group respect"? A sexual issue? A need to disassociate to justify hangups?

Each to their own - I'll stick to treating talent with the same respect anyone gets - till they ruin it

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Scott McD Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 67,795	Damn, thats the first 50-50% poll i think i've seen on here... ;-) __________________ I Buy My High Quality Traffic Here, You Should Too!

08-23-2006, 02:40 AM	#54
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Hardcore models who have sex with strangers for money = yes Softcore models = no I'm calling it as it is. A girl who lets someone like... say... Duke, throat gag her until she pukes is a whore. She may be a cool chick. A responsible girl. She may even be someone's wife or girlfriend, but she is still a whore. Any girl who sucks cum out of another girls ass... is a whore. Any girl who who will let multiple men blow loads inside her vagina... is a whore. Any girl who claims on video that she is a whore... is a whore. If a girl is a prostitute / escort in real life... whore. Any girl that allows a man to write something on her forhead, eats cum from a spoon, gets gangbanged, walks around with cum on her face, is filmed accepting money, plays like she is picked off the street... ALL WHORES. But I do not use the term "whore" to look down upon them. I use the term "whore" the same as I do the term "banker" or "doctor." Girls who shoot for say Steve Lightspeed, Dean Capture, Playboy, Earl Miller, Donny, and so on. NOT WHORES. Though they may be whores in their personal lives, they do not appear to me as a whore while they work. NOW... If they chick hates doing what she is doing, trys to escape the pop shot or you can tell she does not want to be there. WHORE. A bad whore. This means she sold herself out for money. That indeed is the true meaning of a whore, and not much respect comes along with that. She has to look herself in the mirror every day after what she has done. She will live with it, she knows she is a whore. BUT... All of this is based off of MY definition of a whore. It only becomes bad based on how it is used. If I'm filming and I tell the girl, "suck it you filthy rice eating whore!", I do not mean anything by that. If I'm walking down the street and some woman bumps into me, knocks my bag out of my hand and does not even stop to tell me sorry... I turn to her and say, "watch where you're going you stupid fucking whore!", then that is used in a hateful manner. That version of WHORE is a bad one, and is NOT the same WHORE that is used to when speaking to talent.

08-23-2006, 04:47 AM	#59
Kiwigirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,556	Tough question. If you fuck for cash then I'd say yes but if you just posing nude I'd say no. Who the hell knows......all in all I love all talent/models the same, what they do for money is there biz. __________________ KIWISOURCING OUTSOURCING WITH A TWIST!

08-23-2006, 04:51 AM	#60
PimpDaddyPants Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,581	I think a majority of the votes here might be from surfers LOL j/k damn its almost 50/50 on the votes wow

08-23-2006, 04:55 AM	#61
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	if she likes it yeah

08-23-2006, 04:57 AM	#62
Expo_Vids Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162	If you are shooting porn the term "whore" is never a problem. Girls will refer to themselves as whores all the time. If you have not heard this then you have not spent much time around porn stars. __________________ Squirting pussies convert like mad!!! @ Suirting 101

08-23-2006, 05:14 AM	#64
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Dirty luv talk in the bedroom doesn't count.

08-23-2006, 05:52 AM	#68
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	in terms of business, talking to the girls, talking about the girls to other members of the industry i'd say it shouldn't be acceptable but it is. maybe not so much the first but definitely the latter. a lot of stuff in this biz happens that isn't really 'acceptable'. anyways, some girls get off on being degraded, called whores, etc in their personal life. degredation isn't always a male fantasy. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

08-23-2006, 06:02 AM	#69
Seska Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 67	The word whore currently has a great deal of stigma attached to it. The majority of the world's population does not see it as a neutral word much less a positive word (or profession). Even as slang it has derogatory elements to it. Earlier in my work I felt that words like whore and slut could be reclaimed by porn performers and other sex workers, but I have since moved away from that thinking. Misogyny is still a big part of so many cultures as well as pornography. I try to challenge it in different ways now. When I use certain words I do my best to make sure the context is one of sex positivity. I also think having negative attitudes towards performers and models says more about the person in question than the performers and models themselves. If you hire a performer to do something involving degradation why judge her/him over their motivations? If they do it for sexual fufillment, to satisfy their emotional needs, or to pay the bills (or any combination there of), what do you care? I often wonder why people get into the adult biz. For some I think it is because it reinforces their misogyny. Yet for others it is because it reinforces their respect and appreciation of women. Many say it is for the money or because they like being an outsider - I can appreciate that too. But how they carry themselves as they do their work speaks volumes. /end my first controversial post at GFY :-) __________________ Seska's Amateur XXX Page

08-23-2006, 06:21 AM	#70
Buzz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,908	Well, if the talent is a whore - why not?

08-23-2006, 06:40 AM	#72
Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	Sometimes I like to be called a whore. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle

08-23-2006, 08:34 AM	#74
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	whores get paid to fuck. therefor the answer is yes. all talent is scum. __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

08-23-2006, 09:16 AM	#75
MeganS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Baby! Posts: 1,487	We have gone 10 years in this biz without using the word whore ... and pride ourselves on that. Personally i would never call someone a whore that whithout them, i don't have a paycheck xoxo, Megan __________________ Megan S Broadcast, Licensing and DVD www.nmgmanagement.com

08-23-2006, 09:20 AM	#76
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	no its not. first off, we are all here cuz we choose this industry for our income. this is our job. you are supposed to have respect for the talent, other webmasters, companys you do biz with, etc. If you can't grow up and be mature about this industry, then you're still just a kid who thinks "hehe porn..COOL! hehe" Almost like Beavis and Butthead would say. Grow up. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

08-23-2006, 09:58 AM	#78
Madame0120 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In my own lil World Posts: 1,227	This is a true male whore! I'm just a Pimp. So.. If I make some guy cum, while talking on the phone for $2.99 a minute, am I a whore? I like to think of it as Advice With A Happy Ending! __________________ Try Something New! Teasing Bucks Mistress Always Wins!

08-23-2006, 10:08 AM	#80
Mr. Romance The Face of Romance and the Symbol of Freedom Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The America's Posts: 7,821	Talent is one of the back bones of our industry. They provide a service and are paid accordingly. We need them. My vote is no. Mr. Romance __________________ Free Leads Program now paying up to $6 Gerard-Director of Global Sales Sign up Here: CamStarCash Check out: FreeCamStars ICQ: 330 662 299 gerard at freecamstars . com

08-23-2006, 10:20 AM	#82
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Its a rotten term to use, funny you bring this up .There was someone bragging about shooting his 1000 th scene and first called them whores then went err talent. I thought it was very sad and unprofessional. i see someone who sees sex as a dirty thing using the word whore. I have the greatest respect for talent and treat them that way. On the other hand what do you expect when pimp is the favorite term for someone who is successful in this business. Which is beyond stupid to me, especially when 95 percent of us are white.

08-23-2006, 11:02 AM	#85
GlydeGirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,516	Wow... what a bunch of sex-negative people posting in this thread! There's nothing wrong with people having wild adventurous sex with other consenting adults, and for my fellow industry peeps to look down upon the talent that shoots the sex scenes WE plan out for them (softcore, hardcore, extreme, whatever) is such a blatant indicator of the negative attitudes towards sexuality that run rampant in this industry. It's time for us to truly get over the bullshit Christian morality that labels sexually active adults as being "less than" people who don't exercise their sexuality. People fucking and having fun being naked together is perfectly normal and okay. People doing it for the camera is also perfectly normal and okay. There's no need to look down upon people who have extreme sex the same way there's no need to look down upon people who have only vanilla sex, or no sex at all. As adults, it each of our perogatives to get our sexual needs met responsibly, whatever they happen to be. So to use connotatively negative terms such as "whore" to refer to talent performing in very hardcore scenes, it shows that the person using the term has a big issue with others having wilder sex than they do. And because every person has their own sexual fingerprint, it's total bullshit to judge other people's sexual proclivities in comparison to our own. However, as a sexually adventurous woman, for me to fondly refer to one of my gal pals as a "total whore" while I smile as she recounts her most recent adventures is not derogatory because I respect her right to her sex life. However, if some buttoned-up Christian zealot referred to my friend as a "total whore" with a sneer on their face, it would be highly inappropriate. Context is everything.

08-23-2006, 11:19 AM	#87
avolongold Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 580	i think people getting confused between real life and fantasy. I don't think women appreciate being called whores on a personal basis as much as they do in movies which make them their incomes. It's like comparing an actor playing a part to his real life. Two different levels there and i don't think they like being compared to their film roles. I met the guy who used to play Carlton on "Fresh Prince" last year at a night club. I called him Carlton which he didn't seem to like. He responded with an "it's Alfonso thankyou"

08-23-2006, 11:21 AM	#88
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I didn't read any of the responses, so I have no idea what anyone's presenting as their argument, however, here is my own. Whore, Slut, Bitch, etc, etc all are & very well should be acceptable terminology for what you call "talent".. You're not filming no fucking movie actress or anything even remotely requiring "talent". Any fucking whore, slut, etc can fuck & suck cock on camera.. any bimbo on the street will do.. no talent is needed.. Now, on another note.. do you really think anyone is going to use descriptions such as "talent sucking cock" on their sites?

08-23-2006, 11:26 AM	#91
HAPPYPEEKERS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 7,562	I say it is very rude :-( __________________ Please Read All Of My Posts In A Sarcastic Tone So You Get The Full Effect!! HappyPeekers - April

08-23-2006, 11:42 AM	#95
stonegatherer Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 115	Less that $50 or willing to do it in an alley, she's a whore. $100-200, prostitute. $200+, escort.

08-23-2006, 12:01 PM	#98
MissBritt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7	I believe that it is only appropriate to speak to a man or woman and use that word if it is done in jest. To actually call somebody a whore and really mean it you better be ready for a fight as it is definitely derogatory. However with in this industry I think being called a dirty little whore can be a complement so it all depends on how it is said. When I'm working with talent I try to gauge their sensitivity on different words that I say when we are doing sex scenes. If I feel that somebody is uncomfortable with what I'm saying then I do not say it. However, thankfully most people in this business like to be called whores while they are fucked. So simply put I think it's appropriate depending on how somebody says it. If they say it as a rude remark being derogatory then I don't think it's appropriate however if they say it in a smiling complementary way than I think it is absolutely appropriate :-) __________________ Miss Brittany Andrews Producer, Director, CEO, SuperStar http://www.bitchpayz.com

08-23-2006, 12:06 PM	#99
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I really think it depends on the girl and the content you're producing with her. __________________ I'm just a newbie.