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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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A Model wants her site down..Here's my answer
**Here's the letter***
i have a big favor of you is there anyway you can take my pics down on the site for a few weeks or so.. my brother and dad heard and they are going to check to see if im up there and i'm trying to play it off like i'm not. i don't know if you can but i would love you for it if you could. hopefully when i come to vegas we can hang out maybe i can make some money with you. thanks, xxxxx ***My answer**** NO So with that being said, we realize that your traffic is precious and we will not waste your time, changing links and taking down content if we have created it..it stays up forever 100% over our time in the paysite game (2 years) we've had no less than 10 girls request, the site be taken down ,or it's ruined thier lives or my boyfriend hates it or my dad hates it...our answer is always the same..NO! Our contracts are the same with every girl we shoot. We pay up front and own all the content 100% we own the domain names 100% It goes up..it stays up, everyday 24/7 365days a year until the internet dies. ps. We are also affiliates of other companies and it's amazing how many programs allow the girl to close up shop, or jump ship...we are constantly looking for dead links, weekly now. Enough is enough I say. |
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lol i have a big favour i need of you .. can you throw some money into a pit and pour some gasoline on it and light it on fire.... pretty pleeze with cherries on top n stuff..
thanks a bunch .
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That makes baby jesus cry ;)
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From the moment a pic gets on the net, it is there FOREVER!
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Good answer Nina...
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You should spend more time checking if the models are ready(mental) to be known as online pornstars. Its your job as a contentproducer.
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Bravo.
Not to mention if that site has affiliates promoting it, she doesn't seem to realize the strain and inconvenience it puts on all of them. Her little "situation with daddy" would negatively affect a lot of people.
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good reply to her
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But you'd know that if you had any experience as a content shooter, which you've admitted in other threads you don't.
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That the way it is
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![]() In our latest line of sites, most of the girls are active particpants, such as heavily shooting content, custom videos, webcam..we pay them for the amount of action and work they put into the site, there are NO partnerships...We only shoot girls that sell, if we have a girl a girl that doesn't do so good...no big deal, the site stays up forever any way. If a girl is doing good, we continue to shoot the fuck out of them and provide tons of content example ![]() so there is no model drama other than a model begging us to take the site down and we say FUCK NO (end of drama) and we're tired of looking for dead links ourselves |
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and who suffers the most? webmasters and affiliates if she pull out, and the girl can get problems that will last for the rest of here life if she dont. Im the almost 6 years I worked with Adult websites, I have seen maybe 100+ content producers - But I think only 10 took the job serious, only 3 are still working. |
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So where's her pics?
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You bought the content, she spend the money - deal is done. If I buy a Bike, I cant return it again just because i keep getting speeding tickets. |
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if she was worried about her family stumbling upon it she should have never done it in the first place... models... geezz
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why not give them the option to buy the site/content for a ridiculous amount of money ... you never know if she has a rich boyfriend or so who doesn't like his chick showing pink all over the internet.
99.9% of those chicks don't have any money left .. but atleast you gave them a chance to take down their own site
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good answer! I don't know what these models think. I got the same request from one of my models. She actually has a whole section inside our members area dedicated exclusively to her. She made up this story about her boyfriend breaking up with her and their wedding being cancelled because of her pictures and what not.
You know what I told her? "Sure, honey. If you don't want your pictures on the web anymore, I can sell you the exclusive rights to them for $1,000,000". |
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I own and run over 40 domains dude. Been in this biz for over 8 years now. Unlike you. I would hazard a guess I've done business in one form or another with more poeople on this board than you have your whole life. And I unlike you HAVE been a content producer, model recruiter, model management and referrals. In light of that your post about what this guy "should do" comes off as not only presumptuous on your part but foolish and impudent. How do you know he doesn't carefully screen and process his prospective models? You don't. Guys like you talk big. Guys like me keep quiet about it and go about getting it done. That's the way it always has been, always will be.
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I'm sure you're happy with that. I know I am. I love it when these little known entities come on here and talk straight out of their ass about people whose business they know nothing about, show their idiocy and then reinforce it over and over and over and over and..... Run along now.
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There is always a compromise that can be reached that protects all parties.
In my PERSONAL opinion, there isn't enough money in the world for me to ruin someones life. We have an iron clad model release. So iron clad that we are 100% aware that NOTHING is iron clad. There are a lot of greasy slimeballs in this country with law degrees. I have close friends who have experienced models with a lawyer paid for with pussy. I promise you that the model has more pussy than you have cash. I do applaud your desire to protect your affiliates. They are the lifeblood of our business and affiliates interests are not considered enough in this business. That being said, I stick with my first sentence, there is always a compromise that can be reached that protects all parties. |
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Still no pic?
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Reminds me of the scam where someone mail the webmaster claiming the pictures of here on the site is not real, and she is working for a christian school or something, 100% fake
There was even a post about it here a few days ago. |
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I Like Depth Of Field!
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Even with "a rich boyfriend". The best way to handle this is, to remind the girl that she'd signed releases, gotten paid, and "you can't go back" and erase history. In the "good ol days" when the photos would get printed in magazines after a couple of months...do you REALLY think some adult magazine would just say "Oh sure, honey buns, we'll just halt the presses because you got a boyfriend during the last 3 weeks!"? NOT! I 100% agree with Nina's response of "NO"! Fitz
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You would think her father and brother would just check to see if her photos are there. Why would they warn her?
"We heard you are on this porn site. We are going to check to see if you are on there on 8.24 at 5:05 PM EST". Sounds a bit weird int he first place.
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The best is when the model comes back and tells you they will give you back the money you paid them for the shoot if you take their site down! As if that was the only money we have invested in her..... This is one of the reasons we rarely shoot local girls any more....
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We have a few simple rules that we have used for the last 10 years. 1. A model is NEVER shot the first visit to the studio/office. 2. She is given the model release the first time we meet her and told to read it and ask any questions about it before she ever steps foot in the office or studio again. I have heard of cases where the model release did not stand up in court because it was 2 pages long and the model was given 5 minutes to read it and sign it. 3. We have another sheet of paper that the model must sign that is written in plain english, not model release legalese, that explains that the images/video will NEVER go away. It explains that due to the nature of the medium (the internet) that even if an image is taken down an hour after it is put up, it is still out there and always will be. We have only taken down a girls pictures one time. She wasnt a solo girl site, she was on a site with 800 other girls, so it was no big deal. She purchased the images back from us for what we paid her initially. |
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I'm actually quite glad I didn't go the route of running solo girl sites. I certainly had the models for it 5 years ago, but I know of only a few that would have been reliable enough to do something like this with. And even then it would have been risky. I've seen way WAY too many posts here from program owners saying such-and-such model has crapped out on them or what-have-you. Some do well with the solo thing, but the concept does have it's headaches. Big ones. Seriously, signed contract or not, what's to stop this girl's father from freaking out, then hiring a high-punch lawyer to come after the site owners? Really, if they want the site taken down badly enough I'm sure they'd have a pretty good shot at making it happen.
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That's kinda what I was thinking. So ninavain, who was the model (which site)?
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I agree with your response...but i think it could had been worded a bit less harsh for the poor girl. She's probably goint through a rough time and the last thing she needs is a kick while she's down.
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This is a business, and in business, you can't just shoot from the hip, ESPECIALLY if there are affiliates involved. For example, let's say I have an 18 year old daughter who had a solo girl site and I found out. I don't care what paperwork she signed, if I want to make an issue of it, it is going to be expensive, FOR EVERYBODY. First thing I would do is sue the site owner. But that would just be the first line of "defendant". Anyone want to guess what the next few hundred/thousand lines would be? |
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I'm curious as to how much counselling and preparation, if any, was done with this particular model before she was hired. What steps do you plan on implementing prior to hiring models to prevent or reduce this type of thing from happening? Some the responsibility to avoid this is yours. Or is it not? A lot of these girls are extremely naive as is clearly demonstrated in the email she sent you. Does this concern you at all? Frankly, I think your attitude in your initial post is unprofessional and uncaring. So, what you going to do to prevent these models from ruining their lives?
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We've had maybe a half dozen flake after the fact. We offer them a buyout if they are that serious. Especially after they cash our check. We will remove it IF they pay us for the shoot (or every one) they were in. So they pay for their fee, plus every other girl on that day(s), and the photographer. Obviously a hefty chunk o' change. So it essentially is a, "No", but we gave them an option all the same. Which none of them take, and we avoid the mellow drama. I guess what I am saying is, in this business if you produce any content, your name is your bond. Pissing people off will spread like wild fire. So be a bit more diplomatic in your, "No". ![]() |
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We don't hire local girls, they don't just walk in our office and ask about the biz..we hire them via modeling sites, fly them here,pay them, feed them, house them...my 1 goal is to make as much of my investment back as fast as possible...I don't have time to baby sit and talk about life choices. They made the choice when they got on the plane and then dropped thier panties for the world..but honestly the worst models are the NN and tease models...that's why we stopped shooting them..ALL NUDE, ALL PORN, ALL GOOD! btw..here's the model http://baileyboobies.com |
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Whats the point of this thread? Business is business, but why not keeping it that way instead of posting private matters in public? Its not the first time u people (ex-bgb) do this. Models AND affiliates. Very unproffesional.
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You can always ask for her dads zip code and just block the ips on that area for a while. Would do good in pr and avoid angry dads making noice and giving us a bad name.
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